Measles scare in Sydney's most populated spots

By Gemma Bath • Producer
 

Measles are highly contagious. (NSW Health)

 

NSW Health has issued a warning after a young man recently returned from Thailand with measles, and visited some of the busiest spots in Sydney at their most popular time of year, including a shopping centre on Christmas eve.

 

The man developed symptoms around a week after returning to Australia, but is recovered and no longer infectious.

 

Dr Vicky Sheppeard, Director of Communicable Diseases at NSW Health is urging Sydney-siders to be aware of symptoms.

 

Full story: https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/12/29/15/40/measles-scare-nsw-health-sydney-thailand-travel

 

9 NEWS: 2018-12-30

Thankfully, Australia has a 95% vaccination rate, which meets the bar required for the population as a whole to benefit from herd immunity.  Hopefully the infected man did not come near any newborns who are too young to receive the vaccine. 

 

 

 

Edited December 30, 20187 yr by attrayant

Dangerous article. Very dangerous because it does not provide factual information. The article is morally reprehensible because it  imputes a link to Thailand, when there may be none. Here's why;

1. Does not state if  Australian had been vaccinated.

2. Does not state how long he had been traveling and the countries visited.  He could have been infected sitting in close proximity to someone on an airplane or in airport. Bangkok airport is an international hub.

3. No mention of where in Thailand he was.  If in a farang tourist hub, just as likely to have been infected from one of the non vaccinated farangs. Thailand has good vaccination levels. Where there is a weakness is with refugees in the North and in the deep south.

 

 

Didn't they have an out break of that in the south a while ago?

16 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Dangerous article. Very dangerous because it does not provide factual information. The article is morally reprehensible because it  imputes a link to Thailand, when there may be none. Here's why;

1. Does not state if  Australian had been vaccinated.

2. Does not state how long he had been traveling and the countries visited.  He could have been infected sitting in close proximity to someone on an airplane or in airport. Bangkok airport is an international hub.

3. No mention of where in Thailand he was.  If in a farang tourist hub, just as likely to have been infected from one of the non vaccinated farangs. Thailand has good vaccination levels. Where there is a weakness is with refugees in the North and in the deep south.

 

 

And yet there is currently a measels,dangue,chickenguya and rabies outbreak in thailand. So no cant say its fair at all.

36 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Dangerous article.

 

Dangerous?  What's the danger?

 

Quote

The article is morally reprehensible because it  imputes a link to Thailand, when there may be none.

 

Your statement "there may be none" admits uncertainty; implying that it's entirely possible there may be a link to Thailand.

 

 

Edited December 30, 20187 yr by attrayant
Forum software quoted the wrong poster - I fixed it.

1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

Dangerous article. Very dangerous because it does not provide factual information. The article is morally reprehensible because it  imputes a link to Thailand, when there may be none. Here's why;

1. Does not state if  Australian had been vaccinated.

2. Does not state how long he had been traveling and the countries visited.  He could have been infected sitting in close proximity to someone on an airplane or in airport. Bangkok airport is an international hub.

3. No mention of where in Thailand he was.  If in a farang tourist hub, just as likely to have been infected from one of the non vaccinated farangs. Thailand has good vaccination levels. Where there is a weakness is with refugees in the North and in the deep south.

 

 

Agree with you 

Australia being made into a multi cultural country has the problem of alot of them don't adhere to Vacinations, 

This in term has forced such a stupid Gov. to penalise those that are not willing to be Vac.

1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

Dangerous article. Very dangerous because it does not provide factual information. The article is morally reprehensible because it  imputes a link to Thailand,

"Returned from Thailand" leads me to assume everyone has sufficient intelligence to work the rest out without having it spelled out in monosyllables.

 

The bloke should be thankful his bell end doesnt glow ????

Edited December 30, 20187 yr by evadgib

18 minutes ago, BEVUP said:

Agree with you 

Australia being made into a multi cultural country has the problem of alot of them don't adhere to Vacinations, 

This in term has forced such a stupid Gov. to penalise those that are not willing to be Vac.

The measles alert is SOP.

Country arriving from-point of entry.

Meager fare for a nutty Thai apologist.

The rest of your response is pure tosh as most anti immunization campaigns are generally led by the extreme Christian right (directly imported from the U.S) and backed up by the awesome power of the Dunning-Kruger internet effect.

 

 

Edited December 30, 20187 yr by Odysseus123

2 hours ago, attrayant said:

Thankfully, Australia has a 95% vaccination rate, which meets the bar required for the population as a whole to benefit from herd immunity.  Hopefully the infected man did not come near any newborns who are too young to receive the vaccine. 

 

 

 

I too had assumed that pretty much everyone in relatively wealthy countries had been vaccinated against measles as a child - and this includes Australia.

 

Are Australians not routinely vaccinated as children against measles etc.?

2 hours ago, attrayant said:

 

Dangerous?  What's the danger?

 

 

Your statement "there may be none" admits uncertainty; implying that it's entirely possible there may be a link to Thailand.

 

 

The danger is in the presentation of a link to Thailand. One of the  most serious issues of infectious disease control is that of international travel. You may be unaware, but every month we face serious contagion control  events when passengers board flights while incubating or carrying infectious disease.  It is just as possible that the Australian was infected by another traveler. One reads the atricle and can say, ahh Thailand, no worries, wasn't there so pfft.  No mention of where the person was, the airline traveled on, how long until diagnosed, how long in Thailand etc. Measles has an incubation period of anywhere from a week to a month.

 

In the absence of actual facts it is irresponsible to offer the suggestion that the person contracted the illness in Thailand. If the person only visited for a week or  two, it is quite possible, the exposure was elsewhere. 

 

 

59 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

The danger is in the presentation of a link to Thailand.

 

That's still not dangerous.  What is the danger?  I am using the standard definition of danger - a sharp knife can be dangerous.  Swimming in piranha-infested waters can be dangerous.  How is it dangerous to suggest that a tourist caught a communicable disease while in another country?

 

57 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

In the absence of actual facts it is irresponsible to offer the suggestion that the person contracted the illness in Thailand.

 

You are jumping to those conclusions.  The article only stated the facts.  He had measles after returning from Thailand.  Is that not a fact?  It's up to readers to digest news responsibly.  Anyone who hasn't been raised on a diet of Fox "News" should be able to do that.

 

1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

If the person only visited for a week or  two, it is quite possible, the exposure was elsewhere. 

 

Now you are the one who is making assumptions - the very thing you just said is dangerous.

Let's hope this doesn't take media attention away from the cancer-cure that will be found in the backseat of a Bangkok taxi tomorrow.

Seems to be a few measles issues globally, some countries are posting warnings.

 

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/measles-rubella-surveillance/2018/week-50-december-9-december-15-2018.html

 

https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/health-safety/travel-health-notices

Well those selfish stupid morons who refuse to vaccinate their children in Australia can worry about it. Then charge the parents with child neglect. Unless of course they were too young for the vacs.

I am shocked by the response of the Pro-vaxers on this thread, have any of you actually read the vaccine inserts? (which most doctors don't even read).

They say there is a only a 1% chance of a vaccine injury, that's not a lot is it. Now lets put this into perspective, in the US there are aproxiamately 4 million babies born a year, this means that there are 40,000 Vaccine injures or deaths from vaccines per year. 

Pharmaceutical giants cannot be sued for these injuries but the US Government can be, and as of recently they have paid out 4 Billion dollars to compensate for these injuries.

We have what's called an immune system which will take care of us, but we have been so over vaccinated with their poisons that our immune systen has been broken down.

Remember there is no money in healthy people, so keep em sick.

You may want to read the inserts and become an informed induvidual rather than a brainwashed fool .  http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm

Posts with no credible link to a source and making unsubstantiated claims have been removed.

 

On 12/30/2018 at 11:22 AM, evadgib said:

"Returned from Thailand" leads me to assume everyone has sufficient intelligence to work the rest out without having it spelled out in monosyllables.

 

The bloke should be thankful his bell end doesnt glow ????

Some died from drinking whisky

Some died from drinking beer

Of all the great diseases there's none that can compare to the throb throb throb of a red hot knob

From a dose of gonorrhea.

 

 

British Army marching song WW1

16 hours ago, sevenhills said:

I am shocked by the response of the Pro-vaxers on this thread, have any of you actually read the vaccine inserts? (which most doctors don't even read).

They say there is a only a 1% chance of a vaccine injury, that's not a lot is it. Now lets put this into perspective, in the US there are aproxiamately 4 million babies born a year, this means that there are 40,000 Vaccine injures or deaths from vaccines per year. 

Pharmaceutical giants cannot be sued for these injuries but the US Government can be, and as of recently they have paid out 4 Billion dollars to compensate for these injuries.

We have what's called an immune system which will take care of us, but we have been so over vaccinated with their poisons that our immune systen has been broken down.

Remember there is no money in healthy people, so keep em sick.

You may want to read the inserts and become an informed induvidual rather than a brainwashed fool .  http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm

Let’s spot some examples of your hogwash: 

 

1. “have any of you actually read the vaccine inserts? (which most doctors don't even read).”

 

What evidence have you to backup your assertion that ‘most doctors don’t even read [the ‘vaccine inserts’]?

 

2. “They say there is a only a 1% chance of a vaccine injury,”

 

Who says this?

 

If somebody did say this:

 

which vaccine where they referring to?

 

were they expressing a lay or qualified opinion?

 

what did they mean by a ‘Vaccine Injury’?

 

3. “Now lets put this into perspective, in the US there are aproxiamately 4 million babies born a year, this means that there are 40,000 Vaccine injures or deaths from vaccines per year.“

 

Don’t apply an unsubstantiated percentage to an equally unsubstantiated number of vaccinations to derive a doubly unsubstantiated result, go to the Center of Disease Control and present their data.

 

Babbies - bless.

 

’Vaccine Injuries or deaths’, see CDC.

 

 

4. ‘the US Government can be, and as of recently they have paid out 4 Billion dollars to compensate for these injuries.’

 

You can of course provide a verifiable government reference to this $4Billion?

 

 

5. ‘We have what's called an immune system which will take care of us, but we have been so over vaccinated with their poisons that our immune systen has been broken down.’

 

History is filed with the records of epidemics that wiped out millions of people prior to vaccination being available. 

 

Where is your evidence to back up your startling claim that ‘our immune systems have been broken down by over vaccination and their poisons’

 

You may wish to hold that last one pending your Nobel Prize for medicine, we wouln’t want you to

miss out on game because someone stole your scientific breakthrough.

 

I’ll it out sir.

 

You’re posting utter hogwash.

Edited January 1, 20197 yr by Chomper Higgot

Those of us old enough to be born before mass vaccinations may have had experiences which gave them a firm belief in vaccinations. For myself, i was hospitalised at the age of one with measles, and my brother caught scarlet fever at the age of four and was hospitalised for months, nearly died and suffered some heart damage. Their was also one boy in my year at school who wore calipers because of polio, My ex-wife had a cousin similarly affected by polio. He died in his 40's of complications related to the infection many years before.

 

A high vaccination rate keeps these diseases at bay. In some cases these diseases can be eliminated in the population by vaccination (e.g. Smallpox. polio nearly). Just because these diseases now kill and maim very few people is no reason to stop vaccination - they PREVENT the death rate from being higher. And to decide not to be vaccinated increases the risk of epidemics, and YOU may end up being responsible for another person's death.

 

Edited January 1, 20197 yr by rickudon