Do the ISPs ever ban users?

[Hal65]

In the US a relative received a notice about something he downloaded, it was a while back but I believe he downloaded a movie. It was a warning so he got off easy compared to others who have their service terminated.

 

Do the ISPs do that sort of thing here too? 

[BigT73]

Not on pirated movies, its quite common here I wouldnt be suprised if some of the dubbed cable movies here were pirated.  Thankfully they do have a taskforce to look out for kiddy porn. Did your new aircon workout ok?

[KhunBENQ]

28 minutes ago, Hal65 said:

Do the ISPs do that sort of thing here too? 

Short answer: NO. Never heard/read about.

 

Long answer:

Don't know about the US.

But in other countries it's never the task of the ISP to check (censor) content that users watch/download.

The process is that copyright owners engage lawyers to go to court.

Court issues a "warrant" to track down the user/home address from the IP address by the ISP (from log files).

Then you will get a written warning incl. a hefty penalty.

Pay!

If not the thing will go to court and can become nasty expensive.

 

AND NOW:

do you think a copyright owner outside Thailand would try this route?
 

Do you remember the case of "ExpatTV"?

Why where they raided: because they came in the way of a Thai copyright owner who had rights for EPL (English Premier League) in Thailand.

 

I use a paid German language TV service since years.

It can't be legal by any means (e.g. showing all sports that is geo-blocked in the broadcasters streams).

 

The criminal and Thai related forbidden content is a different topic.

Thai censorship watches/searches and seem to have a very short path to finding culprits.

Edited February 7, 2019 by KhunBENQ

[tifino]

 

try accessing imkan.tv 

 

 

why bother buying/renting a RollsRoyce, when you can drive a Geely for free

 

 

back in the good old bad old cable tv days, the Providers didn't really bother about individual pirated movie streamng; but instead went for the pirated Boxes themselves.

What they did was to send a 'bullet'

the 'bullet' was in the form of a specially formatted/encrypeted 'advert'

The 'bullet' is broadcasted down the net, however

 the only dudes who could ever 'see' the advert, were the TV cable pirated box users!

 

If someone therefore responded to the 'advert' the address is displayed;

and thereafter follows 'the knock at the door'

the 'visitor' is akin to - if anybody is old enough to remember what the old TV licence van man looks like.

[Hal65]

24 minutes ago, BigT73 said:

Did your new aircon workout ok?

I have been putting it off. With the hot season fast approaching I will handle it this month though

Edited February 7, 2019 by Hal65

[Pilotman]

1 minute ago, Hal65 said:

I have been putting it off. With the hot season fast approaching I will handle it this month though

when was there a cold season this year? must have passed me by.  

[tifino]

2 minutes ago, Hal65 said:

I have been putting it off. With the hot season fast approaching I will handle it this month though

hope it is wife enabled, and not a wifi enabled Smart aircon; and the ISP bans the fan 

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

No. If so they'd be cutting every hotel corporate client off from the internet. For example, at any one time there may be 50 or 100 users on our connection from CAT. Contrary to popular myth, copyright laws and punishments in Thailand are pretty harsh. However, ISPs don't want to keep records, and don't want to stop copyright infringers, not because they willfully neglect their civic duty, but because it costs them resources and money. They'd have to come to me to go through my system logs, pull up the MAC of whoever was doing something wrong, only to find they checked out and left the country 2 weeks ago.

 

Myself I use the BBC iPlayer. I have a background in IT and know how to get the very finest connection to the UK. My connection, which goes via one of my servers in Singapore, consistently gives me round trip ping times of 190 milliseconds, close to the theoretical best case for that distance, and I enjoy British public broadcasting at an unbuffered HD reliability most British expats can only fantasise about. . . completely illegally of course, but seriously, who gives a $#!t. Your ISP doesn't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 14, 2019 by NilSS

[impulse]

38 minutes ago, NilSS said:

completely illegally of course, but seriously, who gives a $#!t. Your ISP doesn't.

 

Some day, a Thai lawyer is going to snap to the potential revenue stream from partnering up with a digital rights organization and going after a zillion online pirates. 

 

I know a lot of people praying they don't do it retroactively.  It may not happen in my lifetime, but then again...

 

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

Pfft, I've been working in IT since 0 said hello to 1. God himself couldn't break my safeguards, even if anyone did give a hoot. If the lawyers ever give me the chance, I'll hand them the low hanging fruit on a plate, for fun, not money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 14, 2019 by NilSS

[suzannegoh]

In the US a relative received a notice about something he downloaded, it was a while back but I believe he downloaded a movie. It was a warning so he got off easy compared to others who have their service terminated.

 

Do the ISPs do that sort of thing here too? 

 

If you're worried about it use a VPN and test it to make sure that it doesn't leak.  I don't worry about it through, I sometimes use a VPN for other reasons but not to conceal piracy.

[Ulic]

On 2/7/2019 at 8:03 PM, BigT73 said:

Not on pirated movies, its quite common here I wouldnt be suprised if some of the dubbed cable movies here were pirated.  Thankfully they do have a taskforce to look out for kiddy porn. Did your new aircon workout ok?

No, all of the movies in English on my cable are pirated. Sometimes televised while the movies are still in theaters, always before HBO. Not a large number of movies and some are older films but I am sure they are all pirated. BTW. I have never downloaded a single song or movie. I used to buy DVD's at Tuk Com but, of the 20 DVD shops that used to be located there, there remains 2 or three. First-rate copies but at 80 baht each most everyone has switched to NetFlix.

[quandow]

I've been stuck in the US for 6 months with no relief in sight. I forgot about the ISP spying thing, and within the first week here got some VERY nasty emails from the ISP with a direct threat to cease service for downloading movies. I got a vpn, only to discover this <deleted> ISP throttled downloads during daytime if they detected a vpn. THEN I discovered if I use a tablet with a vpn, this ISP isn't sophisticated enough to throttle. What a PITA it's been getting there, though!

Edited February 15, 2019 by quandow

[suzannegoh]

2 hours ago, quandow said:

I've been stuck in the US for 6 months with no relief in sight. I forgot about the ISP spying thing, and within the first week here got some VERY nasty emails from the ISP with a direct threat to cease service for downloading movies. I got a vpn, only to discover this <deleted> ISP throttled downloads during daytime if they detected a vpn. THEN I discovered if I use a tablet with a vpn, this ISP isn't sophisticated enough to throttle. What a PITA it's been getting there, though!

Which ISP in the States is it?  And if doesn’t happen on an Android tablet but only with your PC, is there their conclusive evidence that the problem is throttling by your ISP rather than something that’s going on with your PC?

[Hal65]

Try using a seedbox instead. It works like this: you download the torrent file locally. Then on the online seedbox dashboard you add the file. The seedbox dls the file at a blazing speed. Then at some point you download the file from the seedbox. 

 

From the ISP's perspective no torrenting has happened. 

[Ks45672]

On 2/15/2019 at 2:59 AM, NilSS said:

No. If so they'd be cutting every hotel corporate client off from the internet. For example, at any one time there may be 50 or 100 users on our connection from CAT. Contrary to popular myth, copyright laws and punishments in Thailand are pretty harsh. However, ISPs don't want to keep records, and don't want to stop copyright infringers, not because they willfully neglect their civic duty, but because it costs them resources and money. They'd have to come to me to go through my system logs, pull up the MAC of whoever was doing something wrong, only to find they checked out and left the country 2 weeks ago.

 

Myself I use the BBC iPlayer. I have a background in IT and know how to get the very finest connection to the UK. My connection, which goes via one of my servers in Singapore, consistently gives me round trip ping times of 190 milliseconds, close to the theoretical best case for that distance, and I enjoy British public broadcasting at an unbuffered HD reliability most British expats can only fantasise about. . . completely illegally of course, but seriously, who gives a $#!t. Your ISP doesn't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As the owner of the connection, they will simply prosocute you for anything the guests did

 

A bit like the nite club owners who get done for not checking ids properly and having underage people inide

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

Is there any legal precedent for that? That's like saying the hotelier will be prosecuted for a customer downloading child porn. It's nonsense.

[mrwebb8825]

On 2/7/2019 at 8:23 PM, tifino said:

imkan.tv

tried. had to translate the chinese (?) japanese (?) to english and got this: "This page is currently only available for Canada, Australia and New Zealand. "

[KneeDeep]

On 2/15/2019 at 9:45 PM, quandow said:

I've been stuck in the US for 6 months with no relief in sight. I forgot about the ISP spying thing, and within the first week here got some VERY nasty emails from the ISP with a direct threat to cease service for downloading movies. I got a vpn, only to discover this <deleted> ISP throttled downloads during daytime if they detected a vpn. THEN I discovered if I use a tablet with a vpn, this ISP isn't sophisticated enough to throttle. What a PITA it's been getting there, though!

 

Use a Seedbox. Cheaper and no more throttling.