mngmn Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: Can I ask WHY they would do that? After all, as long as he's over the bar in whichever option he chooses, what difference does it make to TI? You did know that he is talking about Thai Immigration? Creative rule interpretation is part of the job description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delight Posted February 10, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) Thanks to all who contributed I have decided to stay with ‘retirement’ method in 2019 I will apply for ‘extension of stay to support a Thai spouse' (official definition ) in 2020 My ‘too much money’ problem will be resolved due to a combination of the following factors A - Regular month to month spending B- Moving funds to a soon to be acquired bank account with another bank At the time of my 2020 application the letter from my primary bank will detail funds –much less then 800K Baht Edited February 10, 2019 by Delight 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, Delight said: I will apply for ‘extension of stay to support a Thai spouse' (official definition ) in 2020 Official definition; “2.18 In the case of being a family member of a Thai national (applicable only to parents, spouse, children, adopted children, or spouse’s children): Each permission shall be granted for no more than one year.” The extension is issued based on relationship. Support or dependency doesn’t come in to it. The 400K you’ll be required to show in the bank is to support yourself during the 1 year stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 13 hours ago, mfd101 said: Can I ask WHY they would do that? After all, as long as he's over the bar in whichever option he chooses, what difference does it make to TI? Many, the marriage extension requires a lot more paperwork and effort than a retirement extension. Visits to the home being an example. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formaleins Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 You most certainly will have some BIG problems with that huge bank balance, they will not process your application if it is over 400,001 Baht or if it has been seasoned for longer than 91 days prior to applying. The best thing I can suggest is that you make a wire transfer to me here for the additional excess funds. Please pm for bank details. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 30 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Many, the marriage extension requires a lot more paperwork and effort than a retirement extension. Visits to the home being an example. Some are now reporting home-visits for retirement when making honest, in-person applications. But it is much more likely if based on marriage (certain in some offices), unless using an agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, JackThompson said: Some are now reporting home-visits for retirement when making honest, in-person applications. But it is much more likely if based on marriage (certain in some offices), unless using an agent. Oh no, I have to buy a Rottweiler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken George Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 so much more paperwork needed for marriage extension.. Stay with the retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farang99 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 They may well do so. Simplest answer is open a new deposit account with just 40K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Oh no, I have to buy a Rottweiler! The home-visit is one of the few steps which makes any sense in terms of verifying the relationship is genuine. I would have welcomed this, if they would have simply accepted my legit application. But they wanted agent-money - not honesty. And, of course, anyone faking marriage for a visa will use an agent and skip the hurdles - including home-visits - so can continue living here on false-premises, as always. As long as tribute is paid, "valid reasons" for extensions are not important to them. Edited February 11, 2019 by JackThompson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiaexpat Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Formaleins said: You most certainly will have some BIG problems with that huge bank balance, they will not process your application if it is over 400,001 Baht or if it has been seasoned for longer than 91 days prior to applying. The best thing I can suggest is that you make a wire transfer to me here for the additional excess funds. Please pm for bank details. Absolute garbage, I regularly used a long standing fixed account with 500000 TB in it to get Thai Wife extension. It is post like this that run TV. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, asiaexpat said: Absolute garbage, I regularly used a long standing fixed account with 500000 TB in it to get Thai Wife extension. It is post like this that run TV. 500K would work - because less than 800K. An account with 800K would allow the IO to change your extension to "retirement." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted February 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, asiaexpat said: Absolute garbage, I regularly used a long standing fixed account with 500000 TB in it to get Thai Wife extension. It is post like this that run TV. If 500,000 baht then you will get a extension based on being married as it's 300,000 short of 800,000 needed for a retirement extension. ???????? PS. I don't want to extend my wife she's put on enough weight already. Edited February 11, 2019 by overherebc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaijack2014 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I'm sorry, but this question or "problem" is now the least of all worries you should have. 2 million in the bank and you are afraid that they deny your stay? Why on earth would immigration do that? You are the guy they want to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 14 hours ago, changside said: If appearances are anything to go by it is far more money than many expats in Pattaya have. A lot of them look destitute. That's often the sign of someone having a fortune in the bank. Look at the British aristocracy, half of them look like they don't have a pot to p.iS.s in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbeth Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 If they see more money than 400 or 800k what are they gonna do? force you to pay and upgrade to Elite visa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, jesimps said: That's often the sign of someone having a fortune in the bank. Look at the British aristocracy, half of them look like they don't have a pot to p.iS.s in. Cultivated sartorial inelegance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Delight said: The 'never touch it' bit disapoints me 14 hours ago, ivor bigun said: Yes its your money why not be able to spend it if you A have to B want to The nominal loss of interest is part of the overhead of staying. Factor that in and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, jesimps said: That's often the sign of someone having a fortune in the bank. Look at the British aristocracy, half of them look like they don't have a pot to p.iS.s in. 14 minutes ago, overherebc said: Cultivated sartorial inelegance. Beach Road must be the aristocratic playground central station then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, SheungWan said: Beach Road must be the aristocratic playground central station then. ???????? That's where it all started many years ago. ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 15 hours ago, DrJack54 said: Why wouldn't you just stick 800k in a fixed term and never touch it. The wife maybe have ideas how to 'invest' the money? 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, SheungWan said: 58 minutes ago, jesimps said: That's often the sign of someone having a fortune in the bank. Look at the British aristocracy, half of them look like they don't have a pot to p.iS.s in. Beach Road must be the aristocratic playground central station then. If they were poor, they would not have money to spend there. You will see the poor ones on the opposite side of Pattaya - far from the beach. When my now-wife and I were first looking at different rental options, we checked out some "great deal" listed apartments over there. Just looking from the outside, she vetoed all of them. That experience is why I always laughed when people with retirement-extensions claimed though those of us using Tourist Visas (with the attendant travel and other expenses) were "too poor" to live in Thailand. I have seen how/where where the poorer retired foreigners live - though I don't see any harm from them staying - not even visible from where the wealthy live and eat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crees Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I had the same problem the immigration in my province, for some reason they needed to let everyone in the waiting room know what I brought in a month and my bankbook balance. With that out of the way they wanted me to file under 'retired' and not 'marriage'. I fixed this problem after about four years of the same thing always happening. I opened another bank account just for Thai Immigration. I am not trying to hide anything, I just don't want to get mugged on the way back home. A second account from Bangkok Bank took a lot more paperwork than the first account … it also brought me peace of mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, JackThompson said: 500K would work - because less than 800K. An account with 800K would allow the IO to change your extension to "retirement." Would they just do that automatically without being asked to by the farang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crees Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, GalaxyMan said: Would they just do that automatically without being asked to by the farang? I really didn't ask, as soon as I got another account … that Immigration Officer was transferred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said: Would they just do that automatically without being asked to by the farang? This has been reported as happening - yes. And when the farang needed to support a work-permit (cannot on retirement), was told they would need to leave the country and start over to change it to what he requested (and qualified for) on the TM-7 form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahibew Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I gave up on the retirement visa,to complicated and there’s no way I put that kind of money ina thai bank,,I spent 6 months a year in Vietnam on the beaches and just use tourist visas to stay6 months here ,,,simple no headaches..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, digbeth said: If they see more money than 400 or 800k what are they gonna do? force you to pay and upgrade to Elite visa? The question was really aimed at a person previously on an ext based on the 800k in the bank retirement, who wanted to get a married ext yet keep the bank balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 59 minutes ago, JackThompson said: This has been reported as happening - yes. And when the farang needed to support a work-permit (cannot on retirement), was told they would need to leave the country and start over to change it to what he requested (and qualified for) on the TM-7 form. Never ceases to amaze me how much time and energy they waste on this stupidity. All of this nonsense with the retirement extension has me wondering whether or not I'd be better off getting the marriage extension. The money issue doesn't affect me. I don't need to work, but it might be nice to have the option if I get bored chilling out (not very likely this side of the Big BBQ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgendk Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I applied for my first ‘‘extension of stay to support a Thai spouse' 3 years ago, and showed a embassy statement that I had an income of about 80.000 a month. I was told by the immigration that I could get a retirement extension with that income, with less paperwork. I replied that I still would like the extension on grounds of support a Thai spouse'. Was then told that is up to me to decide, and was given the ‘‘extension of stay to support a Thai spouse'. No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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