2 hours ago, Grouse said:

You have absolutely no idea what the 39 billion is for have you? You think this country agrees to hand over money for nothing? It's not housekeeping money.

Very true - and neither does anyone else as the calculations have never been published.....

 

Edit - Which is more than a bit odd.  As you point out, 39 bn is one hell of a lot of money and so needs to be fully explained!

Edited March 16, 20197 yr by dick dasterdly

29 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Going round in circles? More like your explanations put you in a hole and digging.

No, it just goes around and around :

"People voted Brexit based on lies"

"What lies were told ?"

"The sign on the bus said give 350 M per week to the NHS"

"No, that was a suggestion and not a promise "

 

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

No, it just goes around and around :

"People voted Brexit based on lies"

"What lies were told ?"

"The sign on the bus said give 350 M per week to the NHS"

"No, that was a suggestion and not a promise "

 

We don’t give the most 350 m per week? That transfer never took place. 

 

It’s like advertising a car for £10,000 ... but when you arrive at the garage you find that there is 20% VAT on top ... it was a bare faced lie, all the characters involved in the caper knew that ... to a man. 

3 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

We don’t give the most 350 m per week? That transfer never took place. 

 

It’s like advertising a car for £10,000 ... but when you arrive at the garage you find that there is 20% VAT on top ... it was a bare faced lie, all the characters involved in the caper knew that ... to a man. 

 

Still scraping that old barrel........desperate!

3 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

We don’t give the most 350 m per week? That transfer never took place. 

 

It’s like advertising a car for £10,000 ... but when you arrive at the garage you find that there is 20% VAT on top ... it was a bare faced lie, all the characters involved in the caper knew that ... to a man. 

And precisely how would you describe Osborne's promised 'punishment budget' - that was proven to be an outright lie?

19 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

We don’t give the most 350 m per week? That transfer never took place. 

 

It’s like advertising a car for £10,000 ... but when you arrive at the garage you find that there is 20% VAT on top ... it was a bare faced lie, all the characters involved in the caper knew that ... to a man. 

It isnt actually a lie, because we do give the E.U 350 Million per week .

Yes, they could have written that we do get a rebate out of that , but there probably wasnt enough room on the side of the bus to write it 

39 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

By the time Brexit is settled Sanemax will have reached Australia.

he is in thailand and claims brexit hasnt cost him a penny so far,rather odd i would say

10 minutes ago, sanemax said:

It isnt actually a lie, because we do give the E.U 350 Million per week .

Yes, they could have written that we do get a rebate out of that , but there probably wasnt enough room on the side of the bus to write it 

If you deduce the rebate it is around 250 Million. If you further deduce the funds UK gets from the EU, it's around 171 Million. About half of 350 Million.....

38 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

Still scraping that old barrel........desperate!

A barrel revived by InsaneMax.

38 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

And precisely how would you describe Osborne's promised 'punishment budget' - that was proven to be an outright lie?

So everybody lied, about everything? Which means the vote had zero legitimacy?

 

Now we know what Brexit looks like, in the firm of Mrs May’s deal, we should now ask the people to mandate it? 

 

 

13 minutes ago, bomber said:

he is in thailand and claims brexit hasnt cost him a penny so far,rather odd i would say

That’s because his pension is in dollars, lol. If his income is GBP then Brexit has screwed him for almost three years. I imagine him living in a caravan in Jaywick, England. 

24 minutes ago, sanemax said:

It isnt actually a lie, because we do give the E.U 350 Million per week .

Yes, they could have written that we do get a rebate out of that , but there probably wasnt enough room on the side of the bus to write it 

No we don’t, stop lying.

40 minutes ago, bomber said:

he is in thailand and claims brexit hasnt cost him a penny so far,rather odd i would say

I thought he was on another planet...

31 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

InsaneMax.

I thought of that first... ????

1 hour ago, AlexRich said:

No we don’t, stop lying.

The U.K gives the E.U . 18.6 Billion per year , divide that by 52 = 350 Million per week

1 hour ago, candide said:

If you deduce the rebate it is around 250 Million. If you further deduce the funds UK gets from the EU, it's around 171 Million. About half of 350 Million.....

Yes, but we still give the E.U 350 Million per week , so the words on the bus were the truth

(What they give to us is a different matter)

1 hour ago, AlexRich said:

That’s because his pension is in dollars, lol. If his income is GBP then Brexit has screwed him for almost three years. I imagine him living in a caravan in Jaywick, England. 

Now who is lying ?

I do not receive a pension and do not get involved with dollars .

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

The U.K gives the E.U . 18.6 Billion per year , divide that by 52 = 350 Million per week

 

Please take a look at the fact checker below. 

 

£9 billion = £173 million per week.

 

You really need to stop all this lying.

 

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

 

 

 

Edited March 16, 20197 yr by AlexRich

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

Yes, but we still give the E.U 350 Million per week , so the words on the bus were the truth

(What they give to us is a different matter)

No we don't ... stop lying.

Just now, AlexRich said:

No we don't ... stop lying.

Yes we do , https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7886

3 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

Please take a look at the fact checker below. 

 

£9 billion = £173 million per week.

 

You really need to stop all this lying.

 

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

 

 

 

Ha ha , open your own link and it states that the UK gives the E,U 18 Billion per year LOOK

 

6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Ha ha , open your own link and it states that the UK gives the E,U 18 Billion per year LOOK

 

 

Are you simply incapable of telling the truth? 

 

Okay, for the sake of those who can't be bothered reading the whole document the pertinent points are below:

 

"The UK doesn't pay or "send to Brussels" this higher figure of £18.6 billion, or anything equivalent per week or per day. The rebate is applied straight away (its size is calculated based on the previous year's contributions), so the UK never contributes this much".

 

And later on:

 

The new chair of the UK Statistics Authority "described use of the figure [£18.6 billion] by the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, as "a clear misuse of official statistics"".

 

MadMax strikes again.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

Now who is lying ?

I do not receive a pension and do not get involved with dollars .

 

Nor do you live in Thailand ... as it is 4:10 AM there at the moment. 

 

 

Just now, AlexRich said:

 

Are you simply incapable of telling the truth? 

 

Okay, for the sake of those who can't be bothered reading the whole document the pertinent points are below:

 

"The UK doesn't pay or "send to Brussels" this higher figure of £18.6 billion, or anything equivalent per week or per day. The rebate is applied straight away (its size is calculated based on the previous year's contributions), so the UK never contributes this much".

 

And later on:

 

The new chair of the UK Statistics Authority "described use of the figure [£18.6 billion] by the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, as "a clear misuse of official statistics"".

 

MadMax strikes again.

 

 

 

"Rebate" Do you know what that word means ?

It means "To give back "

If they do not give the money back, then it wouldnt be rebate 

Just now, AlexRich said:

 

Nor do you live in Thailand ... as it is 4:10 AM there at the moment. 

 

 

Thats what my clock says , 4.11 PM

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

"Rebate" Do you know what that word means ?

It means "To give back "

If they do not give the money back, then it wouldnt be rebate 

 

Not here it doesn't ... can't you read? 

 

 

Just now, sanemax said:

Thats what my clock says , 4.11 AM

Thats what may clock says 4.11 AM

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Thats what my clock says , 4.11 PM

 

Then you are in the same time zone as Houston, USA. 

 

 

1 minute ago, AlexRich said:

 

Not here it doesn't ... can't you read? 

a partial refund to someone who has paid too much money for tax, rent, or a utility.

Rebate has the same meaning, wherever you are 

a partial refund to someone who has paid too much money for tax, rent, or a utility.

pay back (such a sum of money).https://www.google.com/search?q=rebate+meaning&rlz=1C1NHXL_enTH712TH712&oq=rebate&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.4925j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Thats what may clock says 4.11 AM

All that self-inflicted mendacity giving you insomnia Max?