3 hours ago, heybruce said:

Care to provide sources that support your claim that McCain was despised by Republicans, conservatives or veterans?

 

What evidence to you have that McCain would have launched invasions of Iran and North Korea if he had been elected President?

 

Can you provide sources that support your claim that McCain was advocating WWIII?  By the way, South Ossetia is part of Georgia; Georgia didn't invade itself.

 

Whenever I see a poster new to Thai Visa posting over the top praise of Trump, condemnation of decent Americans, and/or pro-Russia views I suspect someone working for a Russian Troll farm.

In the poll conducted days after the week long orgy of pro-McCain press that attended his never ending funeral procession, McCain just barely polled above 50% approval rating among Republicans with 40% disapproval. Trump by contrast, enjoys 93% approval rating among Republicans. And remember, this all Republicans and not even sussing out the Conservatives:  https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/404587-poll-more-dems-approve-of-mccain-than-republicans-after-his

 

McCain and Vets:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=vFM1xqqTX_g

 

 

McCain composed musical numbers about bombing Iran:  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-mccain/mccain-sings-bombs-to-iran-idUSN1929196820070419

 

He threatened North Korea with "extinction": https://www.mintpressnews.com/john-mccain-threatens-north-korea-with-extinction/231943/

 

McCain was part of the cabal of jokers that wanted to induct Georgia in to NATO prior to the conflict in South Ossetia and once it started he was the biggst cheerleaders for the US to get involved- in a war with Russia, over Gerorgia. And South Ossetia was "part" of Georgia the same way Taiwan is part of China. When a region enjoys de facto sovereignty for as long as South Ossetia did, any move to reverse that clearly constitutes an invasion by any normal understanding of that word. If China launches an amphibious assault on Taiwan tomorrow, I can assure you every outlet in the West will label it an "invasion". And btw, McCain actually visited Georgia prior to the war where he launched an unprompted attack on Russian Peacekeepers and suggested they be driven out. So it is not like he just opportunistically jumped on a warmonger bandwagon in response to unforeseen events. Saakashvili was literally doing McCain's bidding when he launched the invasion:  https://www.thenation.com/article/getting-georgias-war/

 

Whenever I see a Neocon complaining about "Russian Trolls" I can't help but suspect they realize on some level the moral and intellectual failings of their discredited ideology and decided that childish name calling is the best argument their side can muster.  

30 minutes ago, usviphotography said:

In the poll conducted days after the week long orgy of pro-McCain press that attended his never ending funeral procession, McCain just barely polled above 50% approval rating among Republicans with 40% disapproval. Trump by contrast, enjoys 93% approval rating among Republicans. And remember, this all Republicans and not even sussing out the Conservatives:  https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/404587-poll-more-dems-approve-of-mccain-than-republicans-after-his

 

McCain and Vets:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=vFM1xqqTX_g

 

 

McCain composed musical numbers about bombing Iran:  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-mccain/mccain-sings-bombs-to-iran-idUSN1929196820070419

 

He threatened North Korea with "extinction": https://www.mintpressnews.com/john-mccain-threatens-north-korea-with-extinction/231943/

 

McCain was part of the cabal of jokers that wanted to induct Georgia in to NATO prior to the conflict in South Ossetia and once it started he was the biggst cheerleaders for the US to get involved- in a war with Russia, over Gerorgia. And South Ossetia was "part" of Georgia the same way Taiwan is part of China. When a region enjoys de facto sovereignty for as long as South Ossetia did, any move to reverse that clearly constitutes an invasion by any normal understanding of that word. If China launches an amphibious assault on Taiwan tomorrow, I can assure you every outlet in the West will label it an "invasion". And btw, McCain actually visited Georgia prior to the war where he launched an unprompted attack on Russian Peacekeepers and suggested they be driven out. So it is not like he just opportunistically jumped on a warmonger bandwagon in response to unforeseen events. Saakashvili was literally doing McCain's bidding when he launched the invasion:  https://www.thenation.com/article/getting-georgias-war/

 

Whenever I see a Neocon complaining about "Russian Trolls" I can't help but suspect they realize on some level the moral and intellectual failings of their discredited ideology and decided that childish name calling is the best argument their side can muster.  

Pretty poor post.   He polled 50% among Republicans.   So being liked by 1/2 of the party is a poor showing?   I think not.   

 

For Vets you use a video to support your claim.   

 

But there is more to being popular than just being popular among Republicans (he was).   Here's a little snippet:

 

McCain would also rank fifth on the December 2017 list of men Americans say they most admire, his sixth top 10 finish overall and his first since 2012.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/237764/john-mccain-known-liked-career.aspx

 

He has consistently polled positively for a very long time.   Trump can't even take on a corpse and win.   

29 minutes ago, usviphotography said:

In the poll conducted days after the week long orgy of pro-McCain press that attended his never ending funeral procession, McCain just barely polled above 50% approval rating among Republicans with 40% disapproval. Trump by contrast, enjoys 93% approval rating among Republicans. And remember, this all Republicans and not even sussing out the Conservatives:  https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/404587-poll-more-dems-approve-of-mccain-than-republicans-after-his

 

McCain and Vets:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=vFM1xqqTX_g

 

 

McCain composed musical numbers about bombing Iran:  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-mccain/mccain-sings-bombs-to-iran-idUSN1929196820070419

 

He threatened North Korea with "extinction": https://www.mintpressnews.com/john-mccain-threatens-north-korea-with-extinction/231943/

 

McCain was part of the cabal of jokers that wanted to induct Georgia in to NATO prior to the conflict in South Ossetia and once it started he was the biggst cheerleaders for the US to get involved- in a war with Russia, over Gerorgia. And South Ossetia was "part" of Georgia the same way Taiwan is part of China. When a region enjoys de facto sovereignty for as long as South Ossetia did, any move to reverse that clearly constitutes an invasion by any normal understanding of that word. If China launches an amphibious assault on Taiwan tomorrow, I can assure you every outlet in the West will label it an "invasion". And btw, McCain actually visited Georgia prior to the war where he launched an unprompted attack on Russian Peacekeepers and suggested they be driven out. So it is not like he just opportunistically jumped on a warmonger bandwagon in response to unforeseen events. Saakashvili was literally doing McCain's bidding when he launched the invasion:  https://www.thenation.com/article/getting-georgias-war/

 

Whenever I see a Neocon complaining about "Russian Trolls" I can't help but suspect they realize on some level the moral and intellectual failings of their discredited ideology and decided that childish name calling is the best argument their side can muster.  

I see.  You've gone from " McCain is utterly despised by Conservatives. " to citing a poll showing he had over 50% support among Republicans. 

 

Your YouTube link was a video made by a fringe group called Vietnam Veterans Against McCain.  I could find no information about their numbers, which generally means a very small fringe group.  It may be true that a small number of veterans despised McCain, veterans are a very diverse group.  A more representative group, the VFW, has a different opinion:  http://www.veteransview.com/news/vfw-remembers-sen-john-mccain

 

From your source:  " McCain crooned the words "Bomb Iran" to a Beach Boys' tune in joking response to a question about any possible U.S. attack over Tehran's suspected nuclear weapons program. "  His humor may have been in poor taste, but it doesn't indicate that he wanted to launch an invasion.  I'm not so sure that is true of Trump.

 

From your other source (Mint Press News?  Really?):  " During a Sunday interview on CNN’s “State of the Union” – his first public appearance since beginning treatment for brain cancer – McCain called for the U.S. to take more aggressive action towards North Korea, while simultaneously stating that further “aggressive” acts by North Korea would lead to the country’s complete annihilation. "  How is this different from Trump's threats of "fire and fury"?  When was there a US President who didn't explicitly or implicitly threaten annihilation of North Korea if it went too far?

 

The South Ossetia-Georgia situation has little similarity to the Taiwan-China situation and much more similarity to the Chechnya-Russia situation.  Russia has a decades long history of attempting to stir up trouble in independent countries that were part of the Soviet Union by promoting "independence" movements, while ruthlessly crushing any dissent within its own borders.  McCain wasn't comfortable with that.  Trump, and evidently you, have no problem with it.

 

This is the first time I've been called a Neo-Con, it's usually lefty or liberal.  It doesn't bother me, these labels are casually tossed out by people who can't even define their meanings.  However even if you aren't employed by a Russian troll farm, I'll wager that your views on South Ossetia, Georgia and Russian have been influenced by misinformation that originated in Russia.

 

 

23 hours ago, Tug said:

That’s our Donald one jealous vindictive piss poor excuse for a human being rich white trash

Yes. Almost correct. 

One jealous, vindictive, piss poor, almost an excuse for a human being, piece of white trash.

Now Tug, you really must enroll in my further educational courses. lol Applications are waiting. We can discuss the fee

 

5 hours ago, usviphotography said:

In the poll conducted days after the week long orgy of pro-McCain press that attended his never ending funeral procession, McCain just barely polled above 50% approval rating among Republicans with 40% disapproval. Trump by contrast, enjoys 93% approval rating among Republicans. And remember, this all Republicans and not even sussing out the Conservatives:  https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/404587-poll-more-dems-approve-of-mccain-than-republicans-after-his

 

McCain and Vets:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=vFM1xqqTX_g

 

 

McCain composed musical numbers about bombing Iran:  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-mccain/mccain-sings-bombs-to-iran-idUSN1929196820070419

 

He threatened North Korea with "extinction": https://www.mintpressnews.com/john-mccain-threatens-north-korea-with-extinction/231943/

 

McCain was part of the cabal of jokers that wanted to induct Georgia in to NATO prior to the conflict in South Ossetia and once it started he was the biggst cheerleaders for the US to get involved- in a war with Russia, over Gerorgia. And South Ossetia was "part" of Georgia the same way Taiwan is part of China. When a region enjoys de facto sovereignty for as long as South Ossetia did, any move to reverse that clearly constitutes an invasion by any normal understanding of that word. If China launches an amphibious assault on Taiwan tomorrow, I can assure you every outlet in the West will label it an "invasion". And btw, McCain actually visited Georgia prior to the war where he launched an unprompted attack on Russian Peacekeepers and suggested they be driven out. So it is not like he just opportunistically jumped on a warmonger bandwagon in response to unforeseen events. Saakashvili was literally doing McCain's bidding when he launched the invasion:  https://www.thenation.com/article/getting-georgias-war/

 

Whenever I see a Neocon complaining about "Russian Trolls" I can't help but suspect they realize on some level the moral and intellectual failings of their discredited ideology and decided that childish name calling is the best argument their side can muster.  

So nothing, absolutely nothing, to justofy your earlier claims 'Care to provide sources that support your claim that McCain was despised by Republicans, conservatives or veterans?

 

What evidence to you have that McCain would have launched invasions of Iran and North Korea if he had been elected President?

 

Can you provide sources that support your claim that McCain was advocating WWIII?'.

“We only said goodbye to him almost 7 months ago,” his daughter Bridget McCain said in a rare public statement. “Even if you were invited to my dad’s funeral, you would have only wanted to be there for the credit and not for any condolences. Unfortunately, you could not be counted on to be courteous, as you are a child in the most important role the world knows.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/22/im-not-a-fan-trumps-grudge-against-john-mccain-continues-even-in-death

On 3/21/2019 at 9:24 AM, Ulic said:

John McCain, a principled warmonger. Never heard of a war that he didn't want the US involved in. Lots of concern for America but no concern for the foreign civilians being bombed or the carnage and misery left behind.  

The US dodged a bullet when McCain failed in his run for the presidency. He was unhinged (too). That still doesn't absolve Trump from behaving like a fool. Clearly, Trump intends on keeping this McCain sore open right up until the 2020 elections. There doesn't appear any way to turn him off. Somewhere, he's always ridiculing, threatening, mocking, or lying about somebody or something.

12 hours ago, Credo said:

Pretty poor post.   He polled 50% among Republicans.   So being liked by 1/2 of the party is a poor showing?   I think not.   

 

Yes, it is extremely poor. Anything under 80% among your own party is viewed as extremely poor and unlikely to produce a favorable election outcome. Trump by comparison at 93% and while this is an all time high for any Republican President anything around 85% would be considered solid. Just over 50% is atrocious. And remember, the question was about Conservatives, not just Republicans in general. McCain's support is highest among liberal and "moderate" Republicans so if the Conservatives were sussed out in those numbers McCain's approval would actually be much, much, lower. Trump, on the other hand, would probably stay the same or even increase. McCain's daughter was recently on TV whining and complaining about her father being laughed at and ridiculed at the big CPAC Conference. 

 

As for why Trump is focusing on McCain, I think some of you are giving Trump far too little credit. With the Mueller Investigation over, it is time for Trump to move aggressively against the participants of the soft coup and of the co-conspirators, McCain probably has highest name recognition. It makes sense for Trump to be bashing him right now. As the truth about what happened in the 2016 election is slowly revealed, it is only going to get worse for McCain.  

31 minutes ago, usviphotography said:

Yes, it is extremely poor. Anything under 80% among your own party is viewed as extremely poor and unlikely to produce a favorable election outcome. Trump by comparison at 93% and while this is an all time high for any Republican President anything around 85% would be considered solid.

Except of course that 93% comes from a straw poll taken at CPAC. I just don't understand why Trump supporters continue to be so gullible. How many times does it have to be show that he's lying or citing dubious numbers to convince you people to be at least slightly sceptical?

 

5 hours ago, usviphotography said:

Yes, it is extremely poor. Anything under 80% among your own party is viewed as extremely poor and unlikely to produce a favorable election outcome. Trump by comparison at 93% and while this is an all time high for any Republican President anything around 85% would be considered solid. Just over 50% is atrocious. And remember, the question was about Conservatives, not just Republicans in general. McCain's support is highest among liberal and "moderate" Republicans so if the Conservatives were sussed out in those numbers McCain's approval would actually be much, much, lower. Trump, on the other hand, would probably stay the same or even increase. McCain's daughter was recently on TV whining and complaining about her father being laughed at and ridiculed at the big CPAC Conference. 

 

As for why Trump is focusing on McCain, I think some of you are giving Trump far too little credit. With the Mueller Investigation over, it is time for Trump to move aggressively against the participants of the soft coup and of the co-conspirators, McCain probably has highest name recognition. It makes sense for Trump to be bashing him right now. As the truth about what happened in the 2016 election is slowly revealed, it is only going to get worse for McCain.  

You do realize that Trump is fighting with a dead person?   Pretty deplorable to fight with someone who is no longer here to defend himself.   Typical Trump.   

 

8 hours ago, Credo said:

You do realize that Trump is fighting with a dead person?   Pretty deplorable to fight with someone who is no longer here to defend himself.   Typical Trump.   

 

You are so right but with the muller probe done maybe he can screw up his courage again and resume attacking children especially the undocumented ones they are easyer prey