nong38 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Are the numbers supposed toad up then? The EC have given us lots of numbers to peruse over, no need to look to deeply so long as things don't change. Now then I wonder what 9th of May will throw up? Will Jackie Chan-0-cha still be PM or ……………!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just read that 'a vast majority' of invalidated ballots were for anti-junta parties. 5.57% invalid or void. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 The outcome of this sham "election" was determined long before the first vote was cast. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, sjaak327 said: We are both saying the same thing Rob, at 94% they counted 33 million votes, at 100% they counted 5 million more. Hence, they didn't really report votes at 94% but at a lower percentage. They suck at estimating their own counts. Wikipedia is now listing the full results, seems the PTP coalition lost two seats, and is now at 253, at least Prayuth can not count on a majority in the lower house, great news. Their numbers are all over the place, intentional or not. Its not the first time I seen the newspapers and Thai officialdom make many mistakes in what they report. It just does not add up. Anyway still happy that Prayut has NO majority, I am anti PTP and anti junta. But I am not against this anti junta coalition certainly not. I hope they can and will form a government. Prayut is at this moment more evil then the PTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Rumour mill has it that there are red cards at the ready for PTP (25), FFP (18) and just to ensure fairness PPRP (2). Hope this stay as rumour and not excite the citizens too much to do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 That's a very good showing for FF, a new face in politics. Sliver of hope and I suspect thanks to the younger generations. Let's hope they push the dinosaurs to extinction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Rumour mill has it that there are red cards at the ready for PTP (25), FFP (18) and just to ensure fairness PPRP (2). Hope this stay as rumour and not excite the citizens too much to do something about it. Maybe they should red card the whole EC, and have a free and fair election instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, robblok said: Their numbers are all over the place, intentional or not. Its not the first time I seen the newspapers and Thai officialdom make many mistakes in what they report. It just does not add up. Anyway still happy that Prayut has NO majority, I am anti PTP and anti junta. But I am not against this anti junta coalition certainly not. I hope they can and will form a government. Prayut is at this moment more evil then the PTP. Mistakes? Had the shoe been on the other foot, had PTP been in power overseeing this farce, I'm not sure you'd be saying Thaksin has just, accidentally, made a few "mistakes". Simple question - Thaksin won 5 previous elections, in your opinion, were any of those victories any where near as tarnished as this one for Prayuth? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 2.1M ballots disqualified? Would be interesting to see a map in which provinces. I'd bet PTP-leaning NE would be marked all red. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, sjaak327 said: Maybe they should red card the whole EC, and have a free and fair election instead. Careful mate, Computer crimes laws and all. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2019/03/28/9-arrested-for-sharing-election-hoax-news/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 So did Hillary Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, pornprong said: Mistakes? Had the shoe been on the other foot, had PTP been in power overseeing this farce, I'm not sure you'd be saying Thaksin has just, accidentally, made a few "mistakes". Simple question - Thaksin won 5 previous elections, in your opinion, were any of those victories any where near as tarnished as this one for Prayuth? Prayuth didn't win the election, PTP did, difference of 19 seats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: Pheu Thai came second with 7.9 million votes. 2 hours ago, webfact said: Over 2.1 million ballots or 5.5 per cent were deemed spoiled A large proportion of them Pheu Thai votes, perhaps? If so, how convenient for Phalang Pracharat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) The number of invalid votes surprisingly is close to the 2011 elections at 2,039,694 (5.79%). Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Thai_general_election Edited March 28, 2019 by kotsak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, kotsak said: The number of invalid votes surprisingly is close to the 2011 elections at 2,039,694 (5.79%). Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Thai_general_election I noticed something else that's familiar too: Quote On 4 July, Abhisit Vejjajiva stepped down as the leader of the Democrat Party, as he had promised in the case of a defeat of his party. Aaaanndd heeeeee's baaaaccckkk! Or will be as soon as the rubber band has reached full stretch. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, DrTuner said: I noticed something else that's familiar too: Aaaanndd heeeeee's baaaaccckkk! Or will be as soon as the rubber band has reached full stretch. Groundhog Day ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) Well now, with the sudden interest and focus on the popular vote, I suppose that the Senate will feel duty bound to follow the will of the people. Quite a clever fix really. Best let sleeping dogs (spoilt ballots) lie. If they are looked at too closely they might not support the popular vote pronouncement... Edited March 28, 2019 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enoon Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, rkidlad said: It seems no matter how much the pro-democracy party play by the unfair rules and still come out ahead, the more the junta will keep on shamelessly cheating and moving the goal posts. It’s very clear that they plan on it being Prayut in full control or another coup. What a waste of five years. The five year "waste" (and the sham elections) had to be, in order to exhaust the civil options, make absolutely clear and incontrovertible what the reality is, and to confirm and hammer home the message of what the only option for change is. Macbeth, Richard Third......everyone knows what's coming, but there has to be "rising action" before the "climax". The final, bloody, act of the tragedy is yet to be played out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 13 hours ago, pornprong said: Mistakes? Had the shoe been on the other foot, had PTP been in power overseeing this farce, I'm not sure you'd be saying Thaksin has just, accidentally, made a few "mistakes". Simple question - Thaksin won 5 previous elections, in your opinion, were any of those victories any where near as tarnished as this one for Prayuth? Probably - but when you consider the earliest victory in 2001, they were far less open to public scrutiny and debate as social media was still in it infancy and people had far fewer options to speak publicly, openly and connect to each other through different forums and media - So we can speculate that probably yes, but we will never know - that has been buried very deep now. For me I want to know who these 'good people' are that people keep referring too. I hope the Thai media push for names to be given - who are these good people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPKANKAN Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 "The Election Commission (EC) on Thursday released the general election results, saying the pro-junta Phalang Pracharat won the most votes at over 8.4 million" "The turnout rate was 74.7 per cent. Of more than 51 million registered voters, 38.2 million took part in the election" Which means about 78% of voters voted against the army regime. Not really winning the poplular vote!! 5555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 16 hours ago, sjaak327 said: Did they simply add a few more ballots that don't match with a registered voter ? The 5 year old son of my neighbor is so happy that his party won. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 33 minutes ago, Lupatria said: The 5 year old son of my neighbor is so happy that his party won. 5 year olds can be enamored with a slug slithering up a tree. And tis means the parents probably are watching the slug slither too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 and they have the envelopes to prove it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grossman Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, soalbundy said: and they have the envelopes to prove it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, jonclark said: - who are these good people? Those who anti democracy and crave authoritarianism. Done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon1 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 On 3/28/2019 at 3:48 AM, sjaak327 said: Oh boy, the figures don't add up with what they previously announced, the turnout at 94% was 65% now all of a sudden it went up with almost 10%. Did they simply add a few more ballots that don't match with a registered voter ? I believe they were estimating as results were coming in???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Charlie1 Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 17 hours ago, gunderhill said: I understand none of this, whose bloody well won? and won as in who is going to be IN CHARGE. According to the constitution, Thailand is a representative democracy, not an absolute democracy. The difference being that in a representative democracy, the number of representatives counts (number of seats). In an absolute democracy, the number of votes counts. So, according to the constitution (which has been written by the junta) Pheu Thai and FFP have the right to form a government. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just seeing this subject heading in the line up in the news sours my coffee the last couple days. It is sooo sickening to see these hoity doity old arse want to be tough military guys with their candidate and EC puppets think they are Cinderella's being Snow white as the driven snow. no one can say for sure as it falls under defamation, but if the election looks like a duck with one foot, quacks like a duck with half a beak, and swims in circle (one foot), then this duck is not kosher. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 39 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Those who anti democracy and crave authoritarianism. Done. Sorry Eric - We need names from the people in the army who are using the phrase 'good people'. Because if they are insinuating that the people who you name as good are good, then the people that oppose them must be bad - and surely that is defamation? Unless of course the army states that they are all good, which would be very odd, as it would suggest that anyone is okay...which does not seem to be the party line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter14 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Fear violence and blood.... am glad I moved away on 23 rd March... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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