Are the numbers supposed toad up then? The EC have given us lots of numbers to peruse over, no need to look to deeply so long as things don't change.

Now then I wonder what 9th of May will throw up? Will Jackie Chan-0-cha still be PM or ……………!?

Just read that 'a vast majority' of invalidated ballots were for anti-junta parties. 5.57% invalid or void.

 

 

The outcome of this sham "election" was determined long before the first vote was cast.  

17 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

We are both saying the same thing Rob, at 94% they counted 33 million votes, at 100% they counted 5 million more. Hence, they didn't really report votes at 94% but at a lower percentage. They suck at estimating their own counts. 

 

Wikipedia is now listing the full results, seems the PTP coalition lost two seats, and is now at 253, at least Prayuth can not count on a majority in the lower house, great news. 

Their numbers are all over the place, intentional or not. Its not the first time I seen the newspapers and Thai officialdom make many mistakes in what they report. It just does not add up.

 

Anyway still happy that Prayut has NO majority, I am anti PTP and anti junta.

 

But I am not against this anti junta coalition certainly not. I hope they can and will form a government. Prayut is at this moment more evil then the PTP.

Rumour mill has it that there are red cards at the ready for PTP (25), FFP (18) and just to ensure fairness PPRP (2). Hope this stay as rumour and not excite the citizens too much to do something about it.  

That's a very good showing for FF, a new face in politics. Sliver of hope and I suspect thanks to the younger generations. Let's hope they push the dinosaurs to extinction.

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Rumour mill has it that there are red cards at the ready for PTP (25), FFP (18) and just to ensure fairness PPRP (2). Hope this stay as rumour and not excite the citizens too much to do something about it.  

Maybe they should red card the whole EC, and have a free and fair election instead. 

19 minutes ago, robblok said:

Their numbers are all over the place, intentional or not. Its not the first time I seen the newspapers and Thai officialdom make many mistakes in what they report. It just does not add up.

 

Anyway still happy that Prayut has NO majority, I am anti PTP and anti junta.

 

But I am not against this anti junta coalition certainly not. I hope they can and will form a government. Prayut is at this moment more evil then the PTP.

Mistakes?

 

Had the shoe been on the other foot, had PTP been in power overseeing this farce, I'm not sure you'd be saying Thaksin has just, accidentally, made a few "mistakes".

 

Simple question - Thaksin won 5 previous elections, in your opinion, were any of those victories any where near as tarnished as this one for Prayuth?

2.1M ballots disqualified? Would be interesting to see a map in which provinces. I'd bet PTP-leaning NE would be marked all red.

6 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

Maybe they should red card the whole EC, and have a free and fair election instead. 

Careful mate, Computer crimes laws and all.

 

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2019/03/28/9-arrested-for-sharing-election-hoax-news/

So did Hillary Clinton.

12 minutes ago, pornprong said:

Mistakes?

 

Had the shoe been on the other foot, had PTP been in power overseeing this farce, I'm not sure you'd be saying Thaksin has just, accidentally, made a few "mistakes".

 

Simple question - Thaksin won 5 previous elections, in your opinion, were any of those victories any where near as tarnished as this one for Prayuth?

Prayuth didn't win the election, PTP did, difference of 19 seats. 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Pheu Thai came second with 7.9 million votes.

 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Over 2.1 million ballots or 5.5 per cent were deemed spoiled

A large proportion of them Pheu Thai votes, perhaps? If so, how convenient for Phalang Pracharat. 

The number of invalid votes surprisingly is close to the 2011 elections at 2,039,694 (5.79%).

 

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Thai_general_election

 

Edited March 28, 20197 yr by kotsak

5 minutes ago, kotsak said:

The number of invalid votes surprisingly is close to the 2011 elections at 2,039,694 (5.79%).

 

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Thai_general_election

 

I noticed something else that's familiar too:

Quote

On 4 July, Abhisit Vejjajiva stepped down as the leader of the Democrat Party, as he had promised in the case of a defeat of his party.

Aaaanndd heeeeee's baaaaccckkk! Or will be as soon as the rubber band has reached full stretch.

3 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

I noticed something else that's familiar too:

Aaaanndd heeeeee's baaaaccckkk! Or will be as soon as the rubber band has reached full stretch.

Groundhog Day ????

Well now, with the sudden interest and focus on the popular vote, I suppose that the Senate will feel duty bound to follow the will of the people.

 

Quite a clever fix really.

 

Best let sleeping dogs (spoilt ballots) lie. If they are looked at too closely they might not support the popular vote pronouncement...

Edited March 28, 20197 yr by JAG

1 hour ago, rkidlad said:

It seems no matter how much the pro-democracy party play by the unfair rules and still come out ahead, the more the junta will keep on shamelessly cheating and moving the goal posts. 

 

It’s very clear that they plan on it being Prayut in full control or another coup. What a waste of five years. 

 

The five year "waste" (and the sham elections) had to be, in order to exhaust the civil options, make absolutely clear and incontrovertible what the reality is, and to confirm and hammer home the message of what the only option for change is.

 

Macbeth, Richard Third......everyone knows what's coming, but there has to be "rising action" before the "climax".

 

The final, bloody, act of the tragedy is yet to be played out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, pornprong said:

Mistakes?

 

Had the shoe been on the other foot, had PTP been in power overseeing this farce, I'm not sure you'd be saying Thaksin has just, accidentally, made a few "mistakes".

 

Simple question - Thaksin won 5 previous elections, in your opinion, were any of those victories any where near as tarnished as this one for Prayuth?

Probably - but when you consider the earliest victory in 2001, they were far less open to public scrutiny and debate as social media was still in it infancy and people had far fewer options to speak publicly, openly and connect to each other through different forums and media - So we can speculate that probably yes, but we will never know - that has been buried very deep now. 

 

For me I want to know who these 'good people' are that people keep referring too. I hope the Thai media push for names to be given - who are these good people? 

"The Election Commission (EC) on Thursday released the general election results, saying the pro-junta Phalang Pracharat won the most votes at over 8.4 million"

 

"The turnout rate was 74.7 per cent. Of more than 51 million registered voters, 38.2 million took part in the election"

 

Which means about 78% of voters voted against the army regime. Not really winning the poplular vote!! 5555

16 hours ago, sjaak327 said:

Did they simply add a few more ballots that don't match with a registered voter ?

The 5 year old son of my neighbor is so happy that his party won. 

33 minutes ago, Lupatria said:

The 5 year old son of my neighbor is so happy that his party won. 

5 year olds can be enamored with a slug slithering up a tree. And tis means the parents probably are watching the slug slither too. 

and they have the envelopes to prove it

5 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

and they have the envelopes to prove it

1 hour ago, jonclark said:

- who are these good people? 

Those who anti democracy and crave authoritarianism. Done. 

On 3/28/2019 at 3:48 AM, sjaak327 said:

Oh boy, the figures don't add up with what they previously announced, the turnout at 94% was 65% now all of a sudden it went up with almost 10%. 

 

Did they simply add a few more ballots that don't match with a registered voter ?

I believe they were estimating as results were coming in????

17 hours ago, gunderhill said:

I understand none of this, whose  bloody well won? and won as in who is  going to be IN CHARGE.

According to the constitution, Thailand is a representative democracy, not an absolute democracy. The difference being that in a representative democracy, the number of representatives counts (number of seats). In an absolute democracy, the number of votes counts. So, according to the constitution (which has been written by the junta) Pheu Thai and FFP have the right to form a government.

Just seeing this subject heading in the line up in the news sours my coffee the last couple days. It is sooo sickening to see these hoity doity old arse want to be tough military guys with their candidate and EC puppets think they are Cinderella's being Snow white as the driven snow. no one can say for sure as it falls under defamation, but if the election looks like a duck with one foot, quacks like a duck with half a beak, and swims in circle (one foot), then this duck is not kosher.

39 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Those who anti democracy and crave authoritarianism. Done. 

Sorry Eric - We need names from the people in the army who are using the phrase 'good people'. Because if they are insinuating that the people who you name as good are good, then the people that oppose them must be bad - and surely that is defamation? Unless of course the army states that they are all good, which would be very odd, as it would suggest that anyone is okay...which does not seem to be the party line. 

Fear violence  and blood.... am glad I  moved away on 23 rd March...