George Clooney urges boycott of Brunei-owned hotels over nation's gay sex penalties

[CGW]

36 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Hypocrisy of the worst magnitude.

& hypocrisy is based on what? ????

[ThaiBunny]

I've never understood why someone whose full-time job consists of pretending to be someone else is someone whose opinions I should heed

[mokwit]

14 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

I've never understood why someone whose full-time job consists of pretending to be someone else is someone whose opinions I should heed

I am also baffled why rock stars and actors think we are interested in what they think is right for us- I mean for <deleted> they are just minstrels and troubadours whose job is to entertain us. I mean seriously on the dawn of Agincourt did Henry V turn to his court Jester and ask "What's the minstrel view on this plan"?

[samran]

Dang it. That just ruined plans for the Vatican cardinals Asian conference in Brunei. 

Edited March 30, 2019 by samran

[simple1]

1 hour ago, mokwit said:

I am also baffled why rock stars and actors think we are interested in what they think is right for us- I mean for <deleted> they are just minstrels and troubadours whose job is to entertain us. I mean seriously on the dawn of Agincourt did Henry V turn to his court Jester and ask "What's the minstrel view on this plan"?

I was curious so I looked up Clooney's background with foreign affairs and so on. In fact he has done a lot of work, including being a member of the well respected Council of Foreign Affairs. Before you carry on besmirching the guy, you really should check out some facts.

[CharlieH]

Petty bickering posts removed.

[mokwit]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

I was curious so I looked up Clooney's background with foreign affairs and so on. In fact he has done a lot of work, including being a member of the well respected Council of Foreign Affairs. Before you carry on besmirching the guy, you really should check out some facts.

Respect is a matter of opinion. I assume you mean Council on foreign relations  https://www.cfr.org/ . Just seeing the use of the term 'white nationalist' on their home page tells me this is a  Liberal propaganda site. No mention of Islamic terrorism. There is a nasty underhand political strategy to conflate nationalism with white supremacism by using the new political term 'white nationalist' When it comes to white supremacism I could actually find myself standing shoulder to shoulder against them with Antifa, but this low politics of the left is filth. There is no real organised Far Right terrorist organisation and Nazis died out in 1945 - some with assistance by the Allies. The supposed organised Far Right as a terror group as described by the Left is a political construct  for political aims.    As for Clooney I despise him personally for the Learjet Liberal hypocrite he is.

 

 

Edited March 30, 2019 by mokwit

[IAMHERE]

12 hours ago, stevenl said:

And they own which hotels?

 

He has his opinion, agree with it or not, and he is in his own way trying to do something about things he doesn't like. That can only be applauded.

I agree, however the same can be said of the Sultan.

[Destiny1990]

Hopefully nobody stay there ever again and that his hotel goes bankrupt..

Very good to make the Brunei guy to loose face with his mid evil laws!

 

[Brigand]

George is a Richard these days since he married Cherie Blairs's reincarnation and became Mr. Sanctimonious.

[Sydebolle]

Include "Royal Air Brunei" for that matter; Clooney is absolutely right.

Shut down the eliterian oligarch sultan, what a medieval representative of the world's most evil brainwashing under the name of their goat sh"ç%"*çing religion with slaughtering practices bleeding animals to death. 

I'm not gay, lesbian or anything in between and I think the whole issue of "gender" correctness has been blown completely out of proportion but stoning .........

The world is going absolutely crazy and the result are such sick, sick, sick bastards, loaded with money they never earned; if he likes sharian law then just live according to those brainsick regulations but leave your people and the rest of the planet in peace. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

37 minutes ago, mokwit said:

I identified/outed a political strategy of the left/globalist and predictably because you had no answer you resorted to name calling as your kind always does. Truly, deeply, PATHETIC.

 

P.S. You forgot to call me a conspiracist.

 

Stop all the B.S.  It's pretty simple.

 

Either you support Brunei's Shariah law penalties, and are fine with that.

 

Or you think they're repugnant, are willing to stand up and say so, and act accordingly.

 

Which is it?

 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Stop all the B.S.  It's pretty simple.

 

Either you support Brunei's Shariah law penalties, and are fine with that.

 

Or you think they're repugnant, are willing to stand up and say so, and act accordingly.

 

Which is it?

 

Why stick with Brunei? Half the countries on the planet have terrible laws and the others have awful laws. 

Surely if one doesn't like Brunei's laws, one must oppose all the rest of the countries with similar?

 

In any case the thread is about George Clooney, and our opinions of him have been pretty well expressed so far.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

Surely if one doesn't like Brunei's laws, one must oppose all the rest of the countries with similar?

 

 

I agree with that entirely. Any country that wants to stone its citizens to death for alleged adultery or gay relationships deserves similar scorn.  Is there anyone suggesting otherwise?

 

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I agree with that entirely. Any country that wants to stone its citizens to death for alleged adultery or gay relationships deserves similar scorn.  Is there anyone suggesting otherwise?

 

Well, George Cooney seems quiet on Saudi. Perhaps he thinks it's OK if they stone people to death there.

[sanemax]

40 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I agree with that entirely. Any country that wants to stone its citizens to death for alleged adultery or gay relationships deserves similar scorn.  Is there anyone suggesting otherwise?

 

I would even go as far as saying "Any  Country that participates in stoning people to death deserves scorn", regardless of why they decided to do it .

[sanemax]

55 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Well, George Cooney seems quiet on Saudi. Perhaps he thinks it's OK if they stone people to death there.

They don't stone people to death in Saudi though

[mokwit]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

Yes, many on this forum who actually post

Seem to be mostly normal people here - and a few deluded SJW types suffering from the Liberal psyschopathology. I would refer them (and you) to the self development teachings of the Buddha.

[samran]

6 hours ago, mokwit said:

I identified/outed a political strategy of the left/globalist and predictably because you had no answer you resorted to name calling as your kind always does. Truly, deeply, PATHETIC.

 

P.S. You forgot to call me a conspiracist.

Left/Globalist tag is really a confusing one which bubbles up from the bowels of the internet.

 

By definition, if you are on ‘the left’ you are anti free trade, big on tariffs and all sorts of protectionism. They are suspicious of globalisation, corporations and the power that gets concentrated in the hands of a few as a result. You don’t like migration as that undermines the rights of the workers through supressed wages. 

 

If you dont agree with this, then you are certainly not of ‘the left’.

 

So the whole ‘globalist/left’ tag is really just some made up tag by the new ‘angry people’ of the web, making up BS tags. The whole point of course, is to come up with a new term of insult which means everything to them, but nothing to everything else.

 

Its the internet equivalent of Americans calling something they don’t understand ‘socialist’, even when it isn’t. 

 

The irony of it all, is that if you are against globalisation, then without doubt, you are a paid up lefty. 

Edited March 31, 2019 by samran

[lannarebirth]

12 minutes ago, samran said:

Left/Globalist tag is really a confusing one which bubbles up from the bowels of the internet.

 

By definition, if you are on ‘the left’ you are anti free trade, big on tariffs and all sorts of protectionism. They are suspicious of globalisation, corporations and the power that gets concentrated in the hands of a few as a result. You don’t like migration as that undermines the rights of the workers through supressed wages. 

 

If you dont agree with this, then you are certainly not of ‘the left’.

 

So the whole ‘globalist/left’ tag is really just some made up tag by the new ‘angry people’ of the web, making up BS tags. The whole point of course, is to come up with a new term of insult which means everything to them, but nothing to everything else.

 

Its the internet equivalent of Americans calling something they don’t understand ‘socialist’, even when it isn’t. 

 

The irony of it all, is that if you are against globalisation, then without doubt, you are a paid up lefty. 

 

I think there's a difference between the "left" and the center left, which is almost indistinguisable from the center right. Fact is the far left has more in common with the far right than it does the centrists. The political continuum looks more like a circle than a straight line. The globalists are in the center (not middle class mind you) where they think the votes are. The left and the right are the folks the globalists are leaving behind so they're gonna find some common ground, or at least they ought to if they can pull their heads out of their asses.

[bristolboy]

3 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I think there's a difference between the "left" and the center left, which is almost indistinguisable from the center right. Fact is the far left has more in common with the far right than it does the centrists. The political continuum looks more like a circle than a straight line. The globalists are in the center (not middle class mind you) where they think the votes are. The left and the right are the folks the globalists are leaving behind so they're gonna find some common ground, or at least they ought to if they can pull their heads out of their asses.

So, what right wing political leader or politician is there who really opposes these "globalists"? Who doesn't want to shower them with massively reduced taxes? Who doesn't want to lessen regulations that govern the financial industry?

Your allegatons are just ignorance masquerading as cynicism because cynicism is easy. It doesn't require familiarity with facts. Far easier to stick with amorphous generalizations.

[lannarebirth]

1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

So, what right wing political leader or politician is there who really opposes these "globalists"? Who doesn't want to shower them with massively reduced taxes? Who doesn't want to lessen regulations that govern the financial industry?

Your allegatons are just ignorance masquerading as cynicism because cynicism is easy. It doesn't require familiarity with facts. Far easier to stick with amorphous generalizations.

I don't think there are any American right wing political leaders are there?  Mostly center right and a few nutjobs.

[CharlieH]

Post removed. No personal attacks please.

 

See rule 7 of the forum rules.

[stevenl]

On 3/30/2019 at 10:48 AM, Bert got kinky said:

 

Not jealous of him (maybe jealous of his bank roll), just peeved with self appointed pullers who think that the world should be changed to meet their 'special' needs.

 

Doesn't Georgie Boy realize that there are far bigger problems in his own country?

 

Strange conclusions.

He has his opinions and is acting on those. Nothing at all to do with his special needs.

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, samran said:

Left/Globalist tag is really a confusing one which bubbles up from the bowels of the internet.

 

By definition, if you are on ‘the left’ you are anti free trade, big on tariffs and all sorts of protectionism. They are suspicious of globalisation, corporations and the power that gets concentrated in the hands of a few as a result. You don’t like migration as that undermines the rights of the workers through supressed wages. 

 

If you dont agree with this, then you are certainly not of ‘the left’.

 

So the whole ‘globalist/left’ tag is really just some made up tag by the new ‘angry people’ of the web, making up BS tags. The whole point of course, is to come up with a new term of insult which means everything to them, but nothing to everything else.

 

Its the internet equivalent of Americans calling something they don’t understand ‘socialist’, even when it isn’t. 

 

The irony of it all, is that if you are against globalisation, then without doubt, you are a paid up lefty. 

It would be so much easier if posters would give up on the 'tags' that fit their ideas - but have nothing to do with reality.

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

So, what right wing political leader or politician is there who really opposes these "globalists"? Who doesn't want to shower them with massively reduced taxes? Who doesn't want to lessen regulations that govern the financial industry?

Your allegatons are just ignorance masquerading as cynicism because cynicism is easy. It doesn't require familiarity with facts. Far easier to stick with amorphous generalizations.

Same with supposed 'left wing' politicians..... which is why trump was able to become president....

 

But this is completely off topic.

 

Brunei has come out with a new, horrendous law - and everyone needs to know this.

Edited March 31, 2019 by dick dasterdly

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Well, George Cooney seems quiet on Saudi. Perhaps he thinks it's OK if they stone people to death there.

 

Saudi deserves the same, including for their recent murder of an American journalist.  Which Trump has been totally unwilling to do anything about despite being pressed by Congress.

 

In the case of Brunei, the U.S. and its president ought to be at the forefront of the fight against this kind of barbarism, but it appears they are not.  Trump at least ought to be motivated by the adultery part, of which he has considerable experience.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pompeo-and-trump-admin-silent-on-bruneis-law-to-stone-lgbt-people-to-death

 

What the U.S. should have said is something like this:

 

Quote

 

Richard Branson

"This abhorrent, inhuman and medieval piece of legislation has no place in the 21st century."

 

 

Edited March 31, 2019 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[bristolboy]

3 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

I don't think there are any American right wing political leaders are there?  Mostly center right and a few nutjobs.

The use of phrases like center, center left, center right is next to meaningless. How are the so called center right politicians of the republican party not far right? They say rising levels of CO2 in the atmosphere is not a threat. That despite repeated failures to accomplish what was promised, they pass tax cuts that benefit mainly the wealthy. They try to defund Planned Parenthood. These are now mainstream Republican positions. Not so long ago this would have been considered far right craziness. It's only because there a few even more extreme ones that positions that were once considered suitable only for far right extremists,  are now considered center-right. The Republican party is mostly a far right party. And Trump is their far right leader.

[CGW]

On 3/30/2019 at 2:44 PM, samran said:

Dang it. That just ruined plans for the Vatican cardinals Asian conference in Brunei. 

Best cancel the juveniles then?  ????

[lannarebirth]

13 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

The use of phrases like center, center left, center right is next to meaningless. How are the so called center right politicians of the republican party not far right? They say rising levels of CO2 in the atmosphere is not a threat. That despite repeated failures to accomplish what was promised, they pass tax cuts that benefit mainly the wealthy. They try to defund Planned Parenthood. These are now mainstream Republican positions. Not so long ago this would have been considered far right craziness. It's only because there a few even more extreme ones that positions that were once considered suitable only for far right extremists,  are now considered center-right. The Republican party is mostly a far right party. And Trump is their far right leader.

I'd buy that if you'll grant that most Democrats are center right. It's all relative.