rooster59 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Boeing to reduce 737 production in wake of MAX crashes - statement FILE PHOTO: An aerial photo shows Boeing 737 MAX airplanes parked at the Boeing Factory in Renton, Washington, U.S. March 21, 2019. REUTERS/Lindsey Wasson/File Photo CHICAGO (Reuters) - Boeing Co plans to cut the rate of its 737 production to 42 airplanes per month from 52 as it works to manage the grounding of its MAX aircraft in the wake of two deadly crashes, Chief Executive Officer Dennis Muilenburg said in a statement on Friday. Muilenburg said the company now knows that a chain of events caused Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines accidents, with erroneous activation of so-called MCAS anti-stall software "a common link" between the two. The company continues to make progress on a 737 MAX software update to prevent "accidents like these from ever happening again," he said. -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-04-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 They have nowhere to take the planes at the moment. As soon as they are cleared production will ramp up immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toenail Posted April 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) Trump’s “kiss-arse” policy to corporate America is doing its damage already...allowing Boeing to inspect its own planes ( FAA does not have the expertise and the director of FAA, Mr Elwell, once worked for Boeing.)... Relaxed safety concerns under the Trump administration is also hitting the food industry under the FDA. Beware Edited April 5, 2019 by toenail 3 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted April 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, toenail said: Trump’s “kiss-arse” policy to corporate America is doing its damage already...allowing Boeing to inspect its own planes ( FAA does not have the expertise and the director of FAA, Mr Elwell, once worked for Boeing.)... Relaxed safety concerns under the Trump administration is also hitting the food industry under the FDA. Beware Trump is also responsible for every kitten that died since his birth. This is really getting tiring and a good section of the American population is becoming sick of it. 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, toenail said: allowing Boeing to inspect its own planes This was going on way before Trump especially with the 787 Dreamliner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 minute ago, gunderhill said: This was going on way before Trump especially with the 787 Dreamliner. I am not sure an agency exists that knows more about airplanes than Boeing does. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: I am not sure an agency exists that knows more about airplanes than Boeing does. But that's not the discussion so is irrelevant, it was a slag off Trump it's all his fault discussion I replied to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: I am not sure an agency exists that knows more about airplanes than Boeing does. Airbus consortium? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Just now, RJRS1301 said: Airbus consortium? Sure why not? Let's get Airbus in there and show them every secret piece of software Boeing has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: I am not sure an agency exists that knows more about airplanes than Boeing does. So who was it who created the fiasco known as the 737 Max? The FAA? The reason Boeing created this jury-rigged fiasco was that Airbus had blindsided them with a better plane in the A320. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, bristolboy said: So who was it who created the fiasco known as the 737 Max? The FAA? The reason Boeing created this jury-rigged fiasco was that Airbus had blindsided them with a better plane in the A320. I don't think that there are people with the talent to diagnose the airplane and it's computer systems alive right now. Certainly not outside of the industry itself. It's a bit of a problem. I could ask my drunken Thai uncle he has flown on a plane before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: I don't think that there are people with the talent to diagnose the airplane and it's computer systems alive right now. Certainly not outside of the industry itself. It's a bit of a problem. I could ask my drunken Thai uncle he has flown on a plane before. Nonsense. The FAA had its budget cut by Republicans and cut corners to help Boeing against a better Airbus plane. Flawed analysis, failed oversight: How Boeing, FAA certified the suspect 737 MAX flight control system https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/failed-certification-faa-missed-safety-issues-in-the-737-max-system-implicated-in-the-lion-air-crash/ Edited April 6, 2019 by metisdead Oversize font reset to normal. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 A post has been edited as per the following: Forum Netiquette 1. Please do not post in all capital letters, bold, unusual fonts, sizes, colors or use unusually large emoticons. It can be difficult to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangDoingHisThing69 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I find this whole saga very interesting. The fact China, USA and E.U. all approved an aircraft they later determine unsafe gives me very little confidence in their procedures.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarangDoingHisThing69 Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 Nonsense. The FAA had its budget cut by Republicans and cut corners to help Boeing against a better Airbus plane. Flawed analysis, failed oversight: How Boeing, FAA certified the suspect 737 MAX flight control system https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/failed-certification-faa-missed-safety-issues-in-the-737-max-system-implicated-in-the-lion-air-crash/Budget is irrelevant compared to procedure. The fact they have 180’d on an aircraft they now proclaim unsafe tells me the are incompetent, regardless of funding. Not to mention allowing said corporation to conduct its own safety inspections and reports. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, FarangDoingHisThing69 said: Budget is irrelevant compared to procedure. The fact they have 180’d on an aircraft they now proclaim unsafe tells me the are incompetent, regardless of funding. Not to mention allowing said corporation to conduct its own safety inspections and reports. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app It's as I said the relevant agencies lack the talent to assess it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarangDoingHisThing69 Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 It's as I said the relevant agencies lack the talent to assess it.Which is the most alarming aspect of all. I expect corporations to make products as cheap as possible and cut corners. What I do not expect is regulatory agencies to proclaim it safe, then reverse once they have mud on their face. Who watches the watchmen? Men with incentive to stay quiet, via bonuses or kickbacks. Maybe the US and China regulatory agencies need an overhaul for such a dangerous oversight on their part. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ballpoint Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Cryingdick said: Sure why not? Let's get Airbus in there and show them every secret piece of software Boeing has. Like the piece that secretly flies the plane into the ground? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Cryingdick said: They have nowhere to take the planes at the moment. As soon as they are cleared production will ramp up immediately. If they do not end up scrapping them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Cryingdick said: I am not sure an agency exists that knows more about airplanes than Boeing does. Airbus... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) In a couple of years we will probably be flying around in the Chinese C919 anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C919 Edited April 6, 2019 by Peterw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherHun Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Boeing seems to use pilots and customers as beta-testers. They must have learned from Silicon Valley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, FarangDoingHisThing69 said: I find this whole saga very interesting. The fact China, USA and E.U. all approved an aircraft they later determine unsafe gives me very little confidence in their procedures. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect "The fact China, USA and E.U. all approved an aircraft" Unfortunately it is impractical to examine every nut and bolt let alone analyze the software of all the onboard system, they accepted Boeing's self-certifications which turned out to be flawed. What ever happen to DFMEA (Design Failure Mode and Effect Analysis)??? Edited April 6, 2019 by Basil B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gulfsailor Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: In a couple of years will will probably be flying around in the Chinese C919 anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C919 Good thing they copied the Airbus A320 and not a Boeing... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Airbus has had some problems as well let’s hope it’s sorted out soon without further loss of life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Boeing - who??? Damage done!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Cryingdick said: Trump is also responsible for every kitten that died since his birth. Yep... trump is an evil evil man 5 hours ago, Cryingdick said: This is really getting tiring and a good section of the American population is becoming sick of it. Would that be the die hard maga minions section? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Becker Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Cryingdick said: Sure why not? Let's get Airbus in there and show them every secret piece of software Boeing has. Like the piece that apparently downed those planes? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that Airbus would probably say "Thanks, but no thanks". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Cryingdick said: It's as I said the relevant agencies lack the talent to assess it. Hogwash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mavideol Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 5 hours ago, toenail said: Trump’s “kiss-arse” policy to corporate America is doing its damage already...allowing Boeing to inspect its own planes ( FAA does not have the expertise and the director of FAA, Mr Elwell, once worked for Boeing.)... Relaxed safety concerns under the Trump administration is also hitting the food industry under the FDA. Beware short cuts allowed by inspectors, conflict of interests (Mr Elwell) maybe some free vacations to wonderland for the family but mostly greedy rushing, trying to beat Airbus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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