Malaysia MM2H tightening visa rules?

[ThomasThBKK]

I was interested in the second home visa as an alternative to thailand and saw today they changed the rules on: http://www.mm2h.gov.my/index.php/en/

 

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1. NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR LETTER OF GOOD CONDUCT
2. NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR MM2H APPLICATION
3. NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR WITHDRAWAL OF FIXED DEPOSIT
4. COMPULSORY NOTIFICATION OF DEATH OF MM2H PARTICIPANT (PRINCIPAL / DEPENDENT) TO MM2H IMMIGRATION UNIT WITHIN THREE (3) MONTHS
5. DISCONTINUATION OF THE REDUCTION OF FIXED DEPOSIT PLACEMENT BASED ON PROPERTY PURCHASE AND MM2H APPROVAL BY GOVERNMENT PENSION
6. LETTER OF GOOD CONDUCT (LOGC) FROM CHINA
7. ANNOUNCEMENT FOR CAR TAX INCENTIVE UNDER MM2H PROGRAMME
8. MM2H ONLINE APPLICATION SYSTEM
9. THE SUSPENSION OF CONVERSION OF FOREIGN DRIVING LICENCE TO MALAYSIA DRIVING LICENCE

 

Also there's a bunch of negative stuff about property investments etc lately like: https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2018/08/28/setback-for-foreign-property-buyers-setback-for-foreign-property-buyers/

 

Anyone here got the mm2h visa? How hard was it to obtain and how long did it take?

I've read there's tons of delays atm in some other news and everyone is uncertain?

 

 

[MeePeeMai]

I had Malaysia on my plan B list.  It has been scratched off for good.

[ThomasThBKK]

3 minutes ago, MeePeeMai said:

I had Malaysia on my plan B list.  It has been scratched off for good.

For me too it seems, i was really interested as i am in the bracket from 35-50 years and it's one of the only ones who apply there except philiphines.

But seems they managed to turn it into shit by now...

[MeePeeMai]

They cannot be trusted, their government has some real issues and things can go south there really quick.  Too much of a gamble for me.  Indonesia is the only predominantly muslim country I will ever consider moving to but their retirement visa is much more of a headache even than the current Thai system for retirees.

[MeePeeMai]

Bali is beautiful but it has turned into an overpriced and polluted tourist trap unfortunately.  Still some beautiful places to visit or live in Indonesia so I'm keeping it on my list (just in case).

[madmen]

The screws are getting tighter across SEA (no pun) Thailand is still the bees knees as the best place to stay if over 50 or close to it

[MeePeeMai]

Yep

[Jingthing]

The screws are getting tighter across SEA (no pun) Thailand is still the bees knees as the best place to stay if over 50 or close to it

Not in Cambodia. Yet.

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[MeePeeMai]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Not in Cambodia. Yet.

Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

Cambodia os on my B list also (but not quite on the top at this time).

[madmen]

26 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not in Cambodia. Yet.

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Give a year or 2. I thought they made some changes last year but that may have been the business visa. Thats right they want you to be employed for long term visas 6m-1year

 

In October 2017, Cambodia changed their rules and added an employment requirement to their long term visas.  However, the government did not publish clear guidelines and, at the present moment, nobody knows what to make of it – including visa agencies!

 

Ha ha does the above sound familiar ? but thai aint it lol

 

https://adventureprime.com/get-cambodian-6-month-1-year-visa-new-2018-rules/

[swissie]

I was one of those, that have predicted that the Immigration-Rules will get thighter all over SE/Asia. I am just surprised, how fast this is taking place.

According to the Opening Post, Malaysia would be "out" for me.
Accorcing to Post # 10 Cambodia would be "out" for me as well. (Loopholes so embarassingly obvious, that they WILL have to be closed soon.)
What remains? The Philippines for now. But the Philippines will hardly stay "isolated" while all other SE/Asian countries are "tightening-up".

Funny, if having the 800K in a Thai Bank the visa-thing is still "relatively easy". No have 800K?
= Beg, steal or borrow. Or sell your Thai Family into slavery. Saudi Arabia/Dubai comes to mind.

[Selatan]

Is getting a letter of good conduct that difficult? So many having criminal records? I think that's a good move by the Malaysian authorities.

 

Land and housing matters are not matters that the Federal Government of Malaysia have any jurisdiction. It's up to individual states.

 

Housing is a state’s jurisdiction, not federal’s. Land matters too

 

Prime Minister Mahathir had used China as an election issue but many of us knew that all the China-bashing by Mahathir would eventually stop. After all, Malaysia just cannot afford to offend its biggest customer. And things are happening, as expected - the suspended East Coast Rail Link project by a China company has now been restarted.

[Okis]

On 4/16/2019 at 11:26 PM, Selatan said:

Is getting a letter of good conduct that difficult? So many having criminal records? I think that's a good move by the Malaysian authorities.

 

Land and housing matters are not matters that the Federal Government of Malaysia have any jurisdiction. It's up to individual states.

 

Housing is a state’s jurisdiction, not federal’s. Land matters too

 

Prime Minister Mahathir had used China as an election issue but many of us knew that all the China-bashing by Mahathir would eventually stop. After all, Malaysia just cannot afford to offend its biggest customer. And things are happening, as expected - the suspended East Coast Rail Link project by a China company has now been restarted.

Agreed. Malaysia should accept that it's a submissive weak state that needs to be either a colony or a vassal. Hopefully China won't loose the grip like the Brits did.