webfact Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Trump calls Muslim lawmaker Ilhan Omar 'out of control' in latest attack By Susan Cornwell FILE PHOTO: Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) speaks about Trump administration policies toward Muslim immigrants and her own immigrant background at a news conference by members of the U.S. Congress "to announce legislation to repeal President Trump’s existing executive order blocking travel from majority Muslim countries" outside the U.S. Capitol in Washington, U.S., April 10, 2019. REUTERS/Jim Bourg/File Photo WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump attacked Democratic U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar as an "out of control" purveyor of "hate" speech on Monday before leaving for a visit to the state the Muslim-American represents in Congress. Writing on Twitter, Trump blasted both Omar and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for defending Omar after he tweeted a video on Friday suggesting Omar had been dismissive of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. "Before Nancy, who has lost all control of Congress and is getting nothing done, decides to defend her leader, Rep. Omar, she should look at the anti-Semitic, anti-Israel and ungrateful U.S. HATE statements Omar has made," Trump said. "She is out of control, except for her control of Nancy!" Omar's and Pelosi's offices had no comment on Monday. The Minnesota congresswoman said on Sunday evening that she had experienced "an increase in direct threats on my life - many directly referencing or replying to the president's video." "Violent rhetoric and all forms of hate speech have no place in our society, much less from our country's Commander in Chief. We are all Americans. This is endangering lives. It has to stop," Omar wrote in a tweeted statement. Marc Lotter, an adviser to Trump's 2020 re-election campaign, denied Trump was inciting violence. "I don't think it is the president who's putting her in danger. I think it's her ill-thought-out words that she used to describe the greatest terror attack on the history of United States soil," Lotter told CNN on Monday. The video tweeted by Trump spliced news footage of 9/11 with a clip from a speech Omar gave last month in which she said "some people did something" in reference to the attacks. Lawmakers from Trump's Republican Party have accused Omar of minimizing the Sept. 11 attacks, while critics of the president say he took Omar's words out of context in order to stoke anti-Muslim sentiment. Later on Monday, Trump plans to visit a trucking company in Burnsville, Minnesota, about 15 miles (24 km) outside Minneapolis. The venue is in the state's second congressional district, which is south of and partially adjacent to the fifth congressional district represented by Omar. The Minnesota branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Muslim civil rights and advocacy group, will hold a rally in support of Omar outside the company. Omar was speaking at a CAIR banquet in California in March when she made her controversial remarks about 9/11. Omar also said Muslims had "lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen and, frankly, I'm tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it." The White House said Sunday that Trump did not wish any harm in his Twitter post about Omar. The House of Representatives approved a broad resolution condemning bigotry last month after remarks by Omar that some members of both parties viewed as anti-Semitic. (Reporting by Susan Cornwell; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Tom Brown) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-04-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YetAnother Posted April 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: after remarks by Omar that some members of both parties viewed as anti-Semitic. didnt take her long to reveal her spots; good , it needs being known 9 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted April 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, YetAnother said: 1 hour ago, webfact said: after remarks by Omar that some members of both parties viewed as anti-Semitic. didnt take her long to reveal her spots; good , it needs being known Was it anti-Semitic, or was it critical of Israel and some of their policies? Lots of our so called leaders can't seem to differentiate. I'm asking because I don't know what she said that triggered the "view of both parties", or what elements of the 2 parties took offense. Edited April 15, 2019 by impulse 10 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted April 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, impulse said: Was it anti-Semitic, or was it critical of Israel and some of their policies? Lots of our so called leaders can't seem to differentiate. I'm asking because I don't know what she said that triggered the "view of both parties", or what elements of the 2 parties took offense. I have read the speech of relevance by Omar. She condemned terrorism and spoke, whilst addressing CAIR, to the issue of Islamist terrorism by the few often being leveraged to vilify / demean all Muslims. IMO a statement of fact. The other matter you talk to, does criticism of Israeli policies equate to antisemitism, has been debated countless times on TV. I say only if such criticism complies with the criteria for Hate Speech, which in the context of current US law Omar does not appear to do so. Be a good idea for trump to familiarise himself with US Law, though he has shown no signs of doing so, except for personal taxation matters for tax avoidance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#United_States Edited April 15, 2019 by simple1 9 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Cryingdick Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 "Some people did some things"... Trump's tweet using those words with the towers collapsing was spot on. Goldman Sachs wrote a piece today saying Trump will win if the economy stays as it is. Look for the dems to try to create a recession. lol Pelosi is really spending a lot of time trying to defend the radicals in the party. 9 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 To me donald seems more unraveled every day more desperate by the minute he needs to stop inciting violence and divison 6 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tug said: To me donald seems more unraveled every day more desperate by the minute he needs to stop inciting violence and divison The dems are looking way off balance and nuttier each day. You get no real articles here about them so it isn't apparent if this is your go to place for news. 7 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: "Some people did some things"... Trump's tweet using those words with the towers collapsing was spot on. Goldman Sachs wrote a piece today saying Trump will win if the economy stays as it is. Look for the dems to try to create a recession. lol Pelosi is really spending a lot of time trying to defend the radicals in the party. No, it was not spot on since his tweet was grossly misrepresenting her speech. Goldman may think he will win, but there is more to being a good president than inheriting an economy on the up. His divisiveness will work against him. His base will support him, but his support with others is eroding too much to be elected. 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, stevenl said: No, it was not spot on since his tweet was grossly misrepresenting her speech. Goldman may think he will win, but there is more to being a good president than inheriting an economy on the up. His divisiveness will work against him. His base will support him, but his support with others is eroding too much to be elected. His base isn't going to vote dem. Nobody in the middle is going to vote for what looks like will be Bernie as his opponent. The only guy who I think will run with half a chance is Schultz as he can appeal to both Trump supporters and people disgusted with what used to be the den party. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sealbash Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 Sayin “Some people did some things” is like saying “ The Donner party ate some things”Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: His base isn't going to vote dem. Nobody in the middle is going to vote for what looks like will be Bernie as his opponent. The only guy who I think will run with half a chance is Schultz as he can appeal to both Trump supporters and people disgusted with what used to be the den party. Democratic candidate doesn't need to appeal to trump supporters, the trump base will vote trump. So your assessment is totally off. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 I agree with sealbash her language was not well chosen be that as it may it’s unbecoming of anyone let alone the president to react as he did totally un presidential 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post isaanjohnno Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 Like Trump this piece of trash is not worthy of serving the people of the US. They are both only there to serve their own interests 2 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, stevenl said: Democratic candidate doesn't need to appeal to trump supporters, the trump base will vote trump. So your assessment is totally off. The center will more likely vote for Trump than for some socialist. That's my point. If the economy holds Trump is a shoe in. To spell it out for you, the socialist fringe is alienating the electorate more than Trump is. Also the electoral college will give the dems little chance, they need the rust belt and it won't happen. Edited April 16, 2019 by Cryingdick 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: The center will more likely vote for Trump than for some socialist. That's my point. If the economy holds Trump is a shoe in. To spell it out for you, the socialist fringe is alienating the electorate more than Trump is. Also the electoral college will give the dems little chance, they need the rust belt and it won't happen. To spell it out for you, trump had alienated too much of the center to vote for him. His base is there, but that is not enough. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Puchaiyank Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 Omar presents herself as a Muslim...she is the spokes person for Muslim interests...she wants to create a division in government to undermine Israeli support. When she opens her mouth...many take offense...in order to solve this security issue...close your mouth!...???? 5 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 42 minutes ago, stevenl said: To spell it out for you, trump had alienated too much of the center to vote for him. His base is there, but that is not enough. This is the sort of thing only the ultimate result will prove. Good luck, you will need it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: This is the sort of thing only the ultimate result will prove. [Snip] Yes, same as your contentions. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 At the end of the day people vote with their pocketbooks. What's in it for them? If you're on public assistance you'll go with any dem, I would. I only hope AOC and omar keep up the good work. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said: Omar presents herself as a Muslim...she is the spokes person for Muslim interests...she wants to create a division in government to undermine Israeli support. When she opens her mouth...many take offense...in order to solve this security issue...close your mouth!...???? She is an obvious symptom of a larger unchecked immigrant crisis. I know where in Minneapolis her district is. It comprises one complex call Cedar Riverside. I went to a Christian school that had an outreach program to places like Ethiopia during the food crisis and Eritrea and others later. My friends lived in that project 30 years ago. It used to be safe. The Somalians have proven to not be able to assimilate as well as the others including the (mistake here the Hmongs have been exemplary, I didn't mean to imply they have been a problem in any way) Hmong. Watch Omar's mannerisms she is over the top aggressive all the time. Compare to how she conducts herself to a Thai. Ask yourself which you would prefer? Edited April 16, 2019 by Cryingdick 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: She is an obvious symptom of a larger unchecked immigrant crisis. I know where in Minneapolis her district is. It comprises one complex call Cedar Riverside. I went to a Christian school that had an outreach program to places like Ethiopia during the food crisis and Eritrea and others later. My friends lived in that project 30 years ago. It used to be safe. The Somalians have proven to not be able to assimilate as well as the others including the Hmong. Watch Omar's mannerisms she is over the top aggressive all the time. Compare to how she conducts herself to a Thai. Ask yourself which you would prefer? If anything typifies the selective blindness of Trump supporters it's your criticism of Ilhan Omar that "she is over the top aggressive all the time." What prominent politician can anyone think of who is more aggressive than Ilhan Omar? Hmmm... 6 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, bristolboy said: If anything typifies the selective blindness of Trump supporters it's your criticism of Ilhan Omar that "she is over the top aggressive all the time." What prominent politician can anyone think of who is more aggressive than Ilhan Omar? Hmmm... She won't last more than one term. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: She is an obvious symptom of a larger unchecked immigrant crisis. I know where in Minneapolis her district is. It comprises one complex call Cedar Riverside. I went to a Christian school that had an outreach program to places like Ethiopia during the food crisis and Eritrea and others later. My friends lived in that project 30 years ago. It used to be safe. Compare to how she conducts herself to a Thai. Ask yourself which you would prefer? How about Compare Trump's conduct to a Thai. Which would you prefer. I guess you want people in government to be the kind who defer to authority and don't speak their minds? Truly bizarre. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boon Mee Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 Mocking the 9/11 deaths as "somebody did something" is definitely out of control behavior and Trump is right to call her out for that. 5 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Cryingdick said: The center will more likely vote for Trump than for some socialist. That's my point. If the economy holds Trump is a shoe in. To spell it out for you, the socialist fringe is alienating the electorate more than Trump is. Also the electoral college will give the dems little chance, they need the rust belt and it won't happen. Yeah, the mid term election results show just how much the people won’t vote for the dems. Oh, wait... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: Mocking the 9/11 deaths as "somebody did something" is definitely out of control behavior and Trump is right to call her out for that. Where did she mock the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks? 3 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Cryingdick Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: I will, but still doesn’t alter the fact that people will vote for the dems, as the mid terms proved, disproving your claim they won’t vote for them. Thank God, for the EC vote. There is no chance that the USA elects a socialist president. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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