Pro-EU alliance heads for majority but eurosceptic vote to rise - EU election survey

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Pro-EU alliance heads for majority but eurosceptic vote to rise - EU election survey

By Francesco Guarascio

 

 

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - An alliance of pro-EU conservative, socialist and liberal parties would win an absolute majority in next month's European Parliament election, though eurosceptic groups will gain ground, a survey showed on Thursday.

 

With Britain expected to participate after its departure from the European Union was delayed, the proportion of the assembly's seats held by eurosceptics is seen rising to 14.3 percent from around 10 percent currently, according to the compilation of national polls commissioned by the European Parliament.

The figure was 13.0 percent in the previous survey in March, which did not include British voters.

 

Currently, a coalition of centre-right and centre-left groupings holds a majority.

 

Under the new survey, which includes national polls published up to April 15 and assumes the number of seats will remain at 751, the centre-right European People's Party (EPP) will remain the largest grouping with 180 seats, which represents 24.0 percent of the total, down from nearly 29 percent currently.

 

The centre-left Socialists and Democrats will be the second biggest with 149 seats, equal to 19.8 percent, and the liberals are set to stay third with about 10 percent and 76 seats.

 

Graphic showing seats projection -

 

Factoring in Britain's participation in the May 23-26 vote, which might still be reversed if a Brexit deal is struck before then, the nationalist Europe of Nations and Freedom (ENF) would rise to 8.3 percent, or 62 seats, from less than 5 percent currently.

 

Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy (EFDD), the other openly eurosceptic grouping which currently includes the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP), would win 6 percent, or 45 seats.

 

Under the survey, that grouping would include arch UK eurosceptic Nigel Farage's new Brexit Party, which came top with 27 percent in a British YouGov survey published on Wednesday but not included in Thursday's EU report.

 

At the last EU election in 2014, UKIP, then led by Farage, was the leading UK party with 26.6 percent.

 

After Britain's formal exit from the EU, which the bloc's leaders last week extended to Oct. 31, its elected deputies would leave the European Parliament and groupings may need to be reshaped.

 

The European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) grouping, which includes the PiS party of Polish eurosceptic leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski, would obtain 8.8 percent of the seats, up from 7.5 percent in the previous poll which did not include British Conservative voters.

 

Among national parties, German Chancellor Angela Merkel's centre-right Christian Democrats are expected to remain the largest, dropping to 30 seats from 33.

 

Italy's far-right League of Matteo Salvini, which is the leading party in the ENF, would be the second largest with 26 seats.

 

(Additional reporting by Giulia Paravicini and Philip Blenkinsop; Writing by Francesco Guarascio; editing by John Stonestreet)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-04-19

[evadgib]

An email from Robin Tilbrook this morning made interesting reading and may yet turn everything on it's head. He hasn't updated his twitter or FB yet but this at least shows everyone where to look:

 

Don't shoot the messenger!

 

[welovesundaysatspace]

3 minutes ago, evadgib said:

An email from Robin Tilbrook this morning made interesting reading and may yet turn everything on it's head.

Why don’t you just tell us then what the email says? 

 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

An email from Robin Tilbrook this morning made interesting reading and may yet turn everything on it's head. He hasn't updated his twitter or FB yet but this at least shows everyone where to look:

 

Don't shoot the messenger!

 

I liked this comment on Tilbrook's page:

 

Anyone else noticed how quiet Gina Miller is these days.

[evadgib]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I liked this comment on Tilbrook's page:

 

Anyone else noticed how quiet Gina Miller is these days.

Sky asked if she'd join the TIGs/Change.uk or whatever they're called this week a couple of days ago but other than the odd appearance on QT she has indeed been very quiet.

[dick dasterdly]

13 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Sky asked if she'd join the TIGs/Change.uk or whatever they're called this week a couple of days ago but other than the odd appearance on QT she has indeed been very quiet.

Hardly suprising.  She knows that she's far from a 'sympathetic character'.  She's done her bit for the remain cause (via the judiciary) and if she continues, can only lose votes.

 

IMO of course.

[asiamaster]

Mark my words. Euroskeptics will increase to 30%

[evadgib]

2 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

Hardly suprising.  She knows that she's far from a 'sympathetic character'.  She's done her bit for the remain cause (via the judiciary) and if she continues, can only lose votes.

 

IMO of course.

Further evidence of a gathering storm :

 

[puipuitom]

The problem is, by far the mayority of the EU population - since 1958 build-up - see the benefits of the EU as granted. Nobody ever ask him/herself why there is a close to 100% trust in the food safety of all inside the EU (see investigations of EFSA and rapid alert system RASFF, paid by all EU member states). Same for all toys, electric devices, sports articles, building materials etc with the CE certification.

Buy products wherever inside the EU and can be taken without any hussle home. ( or by post order) 

Travelling from Norway ( no member, but included in nearly all) Sweden, Finland, Baltic to Cyprus, Sicily, Gibraltar, and Ireland to Rumania: everybody sees it as granted.

Medical treatment, paid by your own domestic health Insurance.. of course...

Legal protection, seen all legal EU directives, and as last: the European court.

A lot of legislation is harmonised, with check and balance by the Council of (prime) ministers of all member states. for instance:  consumer protection  and employment laws,  Environment see  https://www.europeanlawmonitor.org/eu-referendum-topics/benefits-of-eu-membership.html

Use of the same currency (nearly), so easy to compare prices and costs. And as spin-off, seen the financial strenght: a very low interest rate, think of own mortgage, business loans and governmental loans, the lowest ever in history. As many have more debts as pensions built up, a big advantage for the by far mayority. 

A language of a non-member is quite common over all the EU: English. ( You know, when you speak 2 languages, you are bi-lingual, 3 languages: triple-lingual, 4 languages: you are a genious, and 1 language, you are British)

Industrial parts can flow without any hussle: think of Borne - NL, where soon the now still British Mini will be made: parts from Belgium cross to Germany to be assembled to components, then to NL, and as finished car without any checks, customs, import hussle.. free all over the EU.

Work, retire and live in your own house wherever inside the EU without visa problems, permanent € 20.000 (THB 800.000) on your bank account and the risk to be forced to leave every year.

See  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-what-has-european-union-done-for-us-david-cameron-brexit-a6850626.html and  https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/benefits-trading-european-union

Environment is a LOT better protected by EU laws ( agreed and signed by the (prime) ministers of all EU member states.

see also:  https://www.dfa.ie/brexit/getting-ireland-brexit-ready/brexit-and-you/benefits-of-irelands-eu-membership/  

Thanks to an economic bloc with 520 million people ( soon 450 mln) the EU has a potential gigantic negociation power, much more as an Island of a mere 65mln. 

Yes, it costs some money, and not all appointments are negotiated in the open publicity, just like membership of WHO, WTO, UN, and appointments - by members' head of states - of..  Mark Carney, president of the Bank of England, World Monetary Fond, sec-gen of the UN, and ...the pilots in your plane.

Yes, it also ties hands of members, just like in FIFA, Olympic Committee etc.

see also  https://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit-0  

Who in England wants to go back to the times of Northumbria, Mercia, East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Sussex, and Wessex, having their own regional sovereignty ?

[puipuitom]

3 hours ago, asiamaster said:

Mark my words. Euroskeptics will increase to 30%

Even in that case... it is 70 % … N O T 

[Kiwiken]

2 hours ago, puipuitom said:

The problem is, by far the mayority of the EU population - since 1958 build-up - see the benefits of the EU as granted. Nobody ever ask him/herself why there is a close to 100% trust in the food safety of all inside the EU (see investigations of EFSA and rapid alert system RASFF, paid by all EU member states). Same for all toys, electric devices, sports articles, building materials etc with the CE certification.

Buy products wherever inside the EU and can be taken without any hussle home. ( or by post order) 

Travelling from Norway ( no member, but included in nearly all) Sweden, Finland, Baltic to Cyprus, Sicily, Gibraltar, and Ireland to Rumania: everybody sees it as granted.

Medical treatment, paid by your own domestic health Insurance.. of course...

Legal protection, seen all legal EU directives, and as last: the European court.

A lot of legislation is harmonised, with check and balance by the Council of (prime) ministers of all member states. for instance:  consumer protection  and employment laws,  Environment see  https://www.europeanlawmonitor.org/eu-referendum-topics/benefits-of-eu-membership.html

Use of the same currency (nearly), so easy to compare prices and costs. And as spin-off, seen the financial strenght: a very low interest rate, think of own mortgage, business loans and governmental loans, the lowest ever in history. As many have more debts as pensions built up, a big advantage for the by far mayority. 

A language of a non-member is quite common over all the EU: English. ( You know, when you speak 2 languages, you are bi-lingual, 3 languages: triple-lingual, 4 languages: you are a genious, and 1 language, you are British)

Industrial parts can flow without any hussle: think of Borne - NL, where soon the now still British Mini will be made: parts from Belgium cross to Germany to be assembled to components, then to NL, and as finished car without any checks, customs, import hussle.. free all over the EU.

Work, retire and live in your own house wherever inside the EU without visa problems, permanent € 20.000 (THB 800.000) on your bank account and the risk to be forced to leave every year.

See  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-what-has-european-union-done-for-us-david-cameron-brexit-a6850626.html and  https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/benefits-trading-european-union

Environment is a LOT better protected by EU laws ( agreed and signed by the (prime) ministers of all EU member states.

see also:  https://www.dfa.ie/brexit/getting-ireland-brexit-ready/brexit-and-you/benefits-of-irelands-eu-membership/  

Thanks to an economic bloc with 520 million people ( soon 450 mln) the EU has a potential gigantic negociation power, much more as an Island of a mere 65mln. 

Yes, it costs some money, and not all appointments are negotiated in the open publicity, just like membership of WHO, WTO, UN, and appointments - by members' head of states - of..  Mark Carney, president of the Bank of England, World Monetary Fond, sec-gen of the UN, and ...the pilots in your plane.

Yes, it also ties hands of members, just like in FIFA, Olympic Committee etc.

see also  https://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit-0  

Who in England wants to go back to the times of Northumbria, Mercia, East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Sussex, and Wessex, having their own regional sovereignty ?

Perhaps the people who see that although life is less Certain. Determining your own path is preferable to being dictated to by a Brussels Based conglomerate of Europeans nations who have never had the Freedom Once enjoyed and fought for by the British isles

[welovesundaysatspace]

4 minutes ago, Kiwiken said:

Perhaps the people who see that although life is less Certain. Determining your own path is preferable to being dictated to by a Brussels Based conglomerate of Europeans nations who have never had the Freedom Once enjoyed and fought for by the British isles

Esoteric hogwash. No EU citizen is being dictated in his “own path”. 

[sawadee1947]

5 hours ago, puipuitom said:

The problem is, by far the mayority of the EU population - since 1958 build-up - see the benefits of the EU as granted. Nobody ever ask him/herself why there is a close to 100% trust in the food safety of all inside the EU (see investigations of EFSA and rapid alert system RASFF, paid by all EU member states). Same for all toys, electric devices, sports articles, building materials etc with the CE certification.

Buy products wherever inside the EU and can be taken without any hussle home. ( or by post order) 

Travelling from Norway ( no member, but included in nearly all) Sweden, Finland, Baltic to Cyprus, Sicily, Gibraltar, and Ireland to Rumania: everybody sees it as granted.

Medical treatment, paid by your own domestic health Insurance.. of course...

Legal protection, seen all legal EU directives, and as last: the European court.

A lot of legislation is harmonised, with check and balance by the Council of (prime) ministers of all member states. for instance:  consumer protection  and employment laws,  Environment see  https://www.europeanlawmonitor.org/eu-referendum-topics/benefits-of-eu-membership.html

Use of the same currency (nearly), so easy to compare prices and costs. And as spin-off, seen the financial strenght: a very low interest rate, think of own mortgage, business loans and governmental loans, the lowest ever in history. As many have more debts as pensions built up, a big advantage for the by far mayority. 

A language of a non-member is quite common over all the EU: English. ( You know, when you speak 2 languages, you are bi-lingual, 3 languages: triple-lingual, 4 languages: you are a genious, and 1 language, you are British)

Industrial parts can flow without any hussle: think of Borne - NL, where soon the now still British Mini will be made: parts from Belgium cross to Germany to be assembled to components, then to NL, and as finished car without any checks, customs, import hussle.. free all over the EU.

Work, retire and live in your own house wherever inside the EU without visa problems, permanent € 20.000 (THB 800.000) on your bank account and the risk to be forced to leave every year.

See  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-what-has-european-union-done-for-us-david-cameron-brexit-a6850626.html and  https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/benefits-trading-european-union

Environment is a LOT better protected by EU laws ( agreed and signed by the (prime) ministers of all EU member states.

see also:  https://www.dfa.ie/brexit/getting-ireland-brexit-ready/brexit-and-you/benefits-of-irelands-eu-membership/  

Thanks to an economic bloc with 520 million people ( soon 450 mln) the EU has a potential gigantic negociation power, much more as an Island of a mere 65mln. 

Yes, it costs some money, and not all appointments are negotiated in the open publicity, just like membership of WHO, WTO, UN, and appointments - by members' head of states - of..  Mark Carney, president of the Bank of England, World Monetary Fond, sec-gen of the UN, and ...the pilots in your plane.

Yes, it also ties hands of members, just like in FIFA, Olympic Committee etc.

see also  https://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit-0  

Who in England wants to go back to the times of Northumbria, Mercia, East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Sussex, and Wessex, having their own regional sovereignty ?

Thank you! I'm always happy to meet  TV members with brain. 

[puipuitom]

On ‎4‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 1:51 PM, Kiwiken said:

Perhaps the people who see that although life is less Certain. Determining your own path is preferable to being dictated to by a Brussels Based conglomerate of Europeans nations who have never had the Freedom Once enjoyed and fought for by the British isles

The Dutch already threw by far miost of their nobility out of government from 1568 and fought a long war to get independency and own rule. The British are still partially ruled by them ( House of Lords) and the Eton guys.

The French followed in 1789. The germans in 1918

In Germany all men got voting rights at 3 March 1871, the first Federal election, and at the first elections of the Weimar Republic in 1919 to all women.

During WW1 many British were forced to give their lives for their country, but did not have any voting right at all. Even after the Representation of People Act 1918, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representation_of_the_People_Act_1918 , men and women still didn't have the same rights when it came to politics.

The law said that women over the age of 30 who occupied a house (or were married to someone who did) could now vote. This meant 8.5 million women now had their say over who was in Parliament - about 2 in every 5 women in the UK.

It also said that all men over the age of 21 could vote - regardless of whether or not they owned property - and men in the armed forces could vote from the age of 19. The number of men who could now vote went from 8 million to 21 million.

The Irish felt occupied till 1922, and some even till today by the British.

Time to learn some European history instead of ONLY looking to a western Island at the European shores, who were occupied by Romans, Saxons, Jutes, Angles, Danes, at at the end Normans. see  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_the_British_Isles#Germanic_invasions

[elliss]

On 4/19/2019 at 10:30 PM, sawadee1947 said:

Thank you! I'm always happy to meet  TV members with brain. 

 

       Forever the optimist . God bless you . 

[malagateddy]

Well now..we shall all have to wait and see[emoji6]
Euro news below[emoji6]

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[Loiner]

Thank you! I'm always happy to meet  TV members with brain. 

Let us know when you actually do.