Democrats make legal bid for all Russia probe evidence, Trump poll numbers drop

[neeray]

1 hour ago, lannarebirth said:

 

But they knew he was a criminal when they voted for him. Respect the democratic process. Find someone better to vote for and move on.  If they hang him up in one of the other investigations, that's fine. No less than what he's had coming to him for decades; but don't throw him out of office for being the guy everyone knew he was already. Less than 19 months till elections. 

"But they knew he was a criminal when they voted for him."

Pretty lame reasoning. Fair to say, most people probably thought he would act a little more presidential once he became POTUS.

But on the contrary, he never reined it in at all. He continued to act like a real estate developer/contractor hustling cement contracts. (make him an offer he can't refuse)

[lannarebirth]

12 minutes ago, neeray said:

"But they knew he was a criminal when they voted for him."

Pretty lame reasoning. Fair to say, most people probably thought he would act a little more presidential once he became POTUS.

But on the contrary, he never reined it in at all. He continued to act like a real estate developer/contractor hustling cement contracts. (make him an offer he can't refuse)

People knew the Clintons were criminals (Tyson futures / contamination bailout) scandal and at least one a philanderer (with reports of rapist) when they voted for them in their first presidential election. They continued in the same manner through two terms. Fortunately they had the power of the press behind them and they installed 4,000 people in varying agencies who would come to their defence when called upon. Some of these people later became "talking heads" , without disclosure during the HRC presidential campaign.

 

Is Trump a POS? Without question. Here's my suggestion. Stop electing P's OS of whichever party.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2019 by lannarebirth

[neeray]

38 minutes ago, fordguy61mi said:

Trump’s base is solid

Solid rednecks?

 

Quite the claim to fame.

[Rimmer]

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[lannarebirth]

3 minutes ago, neeray said:

Solid rednecks?

 

Quite the claim to fame.

 

But you'll grant that they are human beings with all the same rights as any other American, right? Presumably more rights than non citizens, right? So treat them that way.

[roobaa01]

the reuter report is a partisan political issue filled with verbal antitrump language. reuters is omitting vital details such as that congress member have the legal right to see the unredacted report for example adam schiff has access and can make it public on the congress floor.

 

clown nadler's supenoe is a mere dem propaganda.

 

impeachment for no collusion, no obstruction dems as usual in political limbo.

 

wbr

roobaa01

[farcanell]

7 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Watch out for people that take so-called “notes,” when the notes never existed until needed." Trump wrote,

Unless those folk support trump, like ass chugging Brett kav with his thirty year old calendar notes ????

 

[farcanell]

6 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Get what? Nobody objects to him having it, except GJ testimony/infrmation which is controlled by statute.

 

More posturing to try to avoid the day of reckoning.

What planet are you living on?

 

they (congress) made it clear they wanted it all, but got a redacted version with an offer of a less redacted version, in need. They made it clear they needed, but trumps pet bullfrog did not provide, in consultation with White House lawyers, which is indeed more posturing to try and avoid the day of reckoning.

[lannarebirth]

3 minutes ago, farcanell said:

What planet are you living on?

 

they (congress) made it clear they wanted it all, but got a redacted version with an offer of a less redacted version, in need. They made it clear they needed, but trumps pet bullfrog did not provide, in consultation with White House lawyers, which is indeed more posturing to try and avoid the day of reckoning.

 

Do you really think that any salient missing pieces would not have been leaked by now, or are about to be leaked? If a smoking gun exists you'll hear about it. Patience is a vtrtue.

Edited April 20, 2019 by lannarebirth

[farcanell]

3 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

The 2 year long Witch Hunt is over and now time for some well-deserved payback. The investigators are now going to be investigated. 

Mueller must be quaking in his boots..... but somehow I doubt “Barr is coming” will ever be as funny as “muellertime” etc etc 

[farcanell]

2 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Sure he has, but if you want to convict him of that you need to produce the evidence.  Personally, I passed judgement on Trump 35 years ago and my opinion hasn't changed since.

Ergo congressional committee demands for the evidence

[lannarebirth]

5 minutes ago, farcanell said:

Ergo congressional committee demands for the evidence

 

About 10% of the 448 page report was redacted. Most of the redactions come in the first half of the report, concerning Russian interference and possible collusion. Trump was cleared on these charges. A smaller amount was in the second half of the report which concern obstruction of justice, most of which we all witnessed first hand. There's not going to be a big "smoking gun". What you're going to find is Trump being Trump, which of course everyone knows is his MO.

[farcanell]

5 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

About 10% of the 448 page report was redacted. Most of the redactions come in the first half of the report, concerning Russian interference and possible collusion. Trump was cleared on these charges. A smaller amount was in the second half of the report which concern obstruction of justice, most of which we all witnessed first hand. There's not going to be a big "smoking gun". What you're going to find is Trump being Trump, which of course everyone knows is his MO.

So..... about 45 to 50 pages of the report where redacted?

 

thats a lot of redaction, a lot of words, even if it’s only 10% of the total.... but I agree, there is no big smoking gun.... maybe a lot of little ones, establishing a pattern of criminality, but no big ones.

[lannarebirth]

3 minutes ago, farcanell said:

So..... about 45 to 50 pages of the report where redacted?

 

thats a lot of redaction, a lot of words, even if it’s only 10% of the total.... but I agree, there is no big smoking gun.... maybe a lot of little ones, establishing a pattern of criminality, but no big ones.

 

Trump has engaged in a pattern of criminalty all his adult life, and maybe before that. As far as I'm concerned it's like petting a snake and then blaming it for biting you. You knew it was a snake, right?

[Becker]

Fox News legal analyst Judge Napolitano on the evidence in the Mueller report:

 

"Depending on how you look at them, there might be enough to prosecute, but the attorney general has decided it’s not enough to prosecute,” Napolitano said during a monologue on his Fox Nation series “Judge Napolitano’s Chambers.” “But it did show a venal, amoral, deceptive Donald Trump, instructing his aides to lie and willing to help them do so. That’s not good in the president of the United States.”

[farcanell]

8 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Trump has engaged in a pattern of criminalty all his adult life, and maybe before that. As far as I'm concerned it's like petting a snake and then blaming it for biting you. You knew it was a snake, right?

Great comment.... hard to argue with that logic... 

 

https://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2004-15.html

[MickeyDelux]

it's ok not to approve of a candidate. but when there is a delusional vilification, predicated on lies and misdirection, it's clearly the same hateful, destructive obsession practiced by so many evil characters, governments, and organizations in the worlds past history and now this is what the democratic party has become and the media is complicit in the betrayal of public.  

[ballpoint]

2 hours ago, farcanell said:

Mueller must be quaking in his boots..... but somehow I doubt “Barr is coming” will ever be as funny as “muellertime” etc etc 

Barr? Humbug!

[farcanell]

Just now, ballpoint said:

Barr? Humbug!

Ok... you got me... that’s good ????????????

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, ballpoint said:

Barr? Humbug!

His name will live in infamy. 

[EVENKEEL]

3 hours ago, neeray said:

Solid rednecks?

 

Quite the claim to fame.

Keep on believing Trump voters are all rednecks. 

[riclag]

 

 

9 hours ago, Lungstib said:

Certainly taken the lid of the whole dirty and dubious business that passes for US politics. Regardless of whether Trump is guilty of anything serious it has certainly showed up the level of honesty, integrity and decency that is missing from American politics at the moment. The corruption in the system appears to be totally out of control and everyone and his dog appears to be trying to benefit from their association with whoever gets the top job. The only positive is perhaps the fact that it can be reported despite Dons hope that it wont be.

Yup, He wasn't suppose to win! The billionaire outsider that even minorities,celebrities liked, while at the same time  many in MSM called arrogant each time he floated his opinions of his political aspirations during the years. A populist  who dared to take on Dodge City(The swamp)!  Something tells me the left's boogeyman is  not  quite finished blowin Dodge,he just wasted  almost 3 years fighting it,almost  to the point of obstructing the hoax!  No collusion,No conspiracy and no obstruction! There is much much more of the swamp to expose now that the Mueller hoax has finished ! Stay (tunes ) 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2019 by riclag

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

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Yup, He wasn't suppose to win! The billionaire outsider that even minorities,celebrities liked, while at the same time  many in MSM called arrogant each time he floated his opinions of his political aspirations during the years. A populist  who dared to take on Dodge City(The swamp)!  Something tells me the left's boogeyman is  not  quite finished blowin Dodge,he just wasted  almost 3 years fighting it,almost  to the point of obstructing the hoax!  No collusion,No conspiracy and no obstruction! There is much much more of the swamp to expose now that the Mueller hoax has finished ! Stay tuned  

 

 

The only evidence we have of Trump being a billionaire is his own statements or statements made by others that are traceable back to Trump's own statements. 

 

As we know Trump is a habitual liar, but don't fret, his tax returns will settle the matter. 

[Kasane]

"THE TWO-PRONGED CONSPIRACY THEORY that has dominated U.S. political discourse for almost three years – that (1) Trump, his family and his campaign conspired or coordinated with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election, and (2) Trump is beholden to Russian President Vladimir Putin — was not merely rejected today by the final report of Special Counsel Robert Mueller. It was obliterated: in an undeniable and definitive manner. The section of Mueller’s report on whether Trump criminally attempted to obstruct the investigation is full of evidence and episodes that show Trump being dishonest, misleading, and willing to invoke potentially corrupt tactics to put an end to it. But ultimately, the most extreme of those tactics were not invoked (at times because Trump’s aides refused), and the actions in which Trump engaged were simply not enough for Mueller to conclude that he was guilty of criminal obstruction." Glenn Greenwald

https://theintercept.com/2019/04/18/robert-mueller-did-not-merely-reject-the-trumprussia-conspiracy-theories-he-obliterated-them/

[riclag]

5 minutes ago, Kasane said:

"THE TWO-PRONGED CONSPIRACY THEORY that has dominated U.S. political discourse for almost three years – that (1) Trump, his family and his campaign conspired or coordinated with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election, and (2) Trump is beholden to Russian President Vladimir Putin — was not merely rejected today by the final report of Special Counsel Robert Mueller. It was obliterated: in an undeniable and definitive manner. The section of Mueller’s report on whether Trump criminally attempted to obstruct the investigation is full of evidence and episodes that show Trump being dishonest, misleading, and willing to invoke potentially corrupt tactics to put an end to it. But ultimately, the most extreme of those tactics were not invoked (at times because Trump’s aides refused), and the actions in which Trump engaged were simply not enough for Mueller to conclude that he was guilty of criminal obstruction." Glenn Greenwald

https://theintercept.com/2019/04/18/robert-mueller-did-not-merely-reject-the-trumprussia-conspiracy-theories-he-obliterated-them/

That's just another patriotic opinion by a conservative opinion writer! I like it,but its time for Mr.Trump's accusations of treason and traitors to be proven before he gets nominated again!

[Nyezhov]

52 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

His name will live in infamy. 

Simply because he didn't tell a group of conspiracists what they wanted to hear.

 

What truly will live in infamy is the attack on libertyand our election by the Obama administration, corrupt beauracrats, and so called journalists, who hid a conspiracy on the part of the Clinton campaign and her fellow travelers in Government to purchase and criminally obtain aid from Russia to disrupt the election.

 

Some folks need to continue this farce. I get it. It's their reason for being and when a person's hopes and dreams are destroyed, sometimes they are incapable of letting them go.plus it hides and obfuscates the day of reckoning that this country needs to make sure that this attempt to overthrow the duly elected government of the United States with the aid of a foeign power never happens again.

[Redline]

9 hours ago, Thainesss said:

 

Well, considering the margin of error for the poll itself is +/- 3.5 percentage points, and they oversampled Democrats in this poll VS oversampling Republicans in the previous one, I wouldnt get my hopes up if I was you. 

 

https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-TRUMP-RUSSIA-POLL/010091JB28J/Mueller Investigation Report 04 19 2019 TRENDED PID.pdf

 

With his current numbers, he couldn’t win an election right now.  Russia gave him his last win, and he didn’t even win the popular vote, and most people didn’t like Hillary.  When Americans find out he and his family have not payed taxes for decades, the party is over anyway-in addition to the evidence pertaining to at least a dozen more investigations 

Edited April 20, 2019 by Redline

[Redline]

9 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Trump's poll numbers drop!  This is the end game now that the Russia debacle has been exposed as a perpetuated hoax...

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-pdf-takeaways.html

[Thainesss]

1 minute ago, Redline said:

With his current numbers, he couldn’t win an election right now.  Russia gave him his last win, and he didn’t even win the popular vote, and most people didn’t like Hillary.  When Americans find out he and his family have not pay d taxes for decades, the party is over anyway-in addition to the evidence pertaining to at least a dozen more investigations 

 

You think any of that hyperbole is going to make anyone change their mind? The left has spend the better part of the last few years insulting and shaming anyone who voted for Trump, conservatives in general, and facilitating a hoax of Russian Collusion, conspiracy, and Treasonous behavior. Not to mention trotting out and grooming people to smear Kavanaugh publicly for being a gang rapist. That isnt a good way to win votes. 

The left has gone vile and disgusting and people see that. Say what you want about Trump, but Dems are more than filthy. 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Thainesss said:

 

You think any of that hyperbole is going to make anyone change their mind? The left has spend the better part of the last few years insulting and shaming anyone who voted for Trump, conservatives in general, and facilitating a hoax of Russian Collusion, conspiracy, and Treasonous behavior. Not to mention trotting out and grooming people to smear Kavanaugh publicly for being a gang rapist. That isnt a good way to win votes. 

The left has gone vile and disgusting and people see that. Say what you want about Trump, but Dems are more than filthy. 

 

 

11 counts of Trump attempting to obstruct the inquiry. 

 

12 previously unreported on going indictments.

 

Stay tuned.