malibukid Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 how did this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibukid Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 time to roll over and play dead???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lensta Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 8 hours ago, ukrules said: The fallout from this is going to be epic. When does the war start? The day the results of the election are announced. The army will turn on its own people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 The time for the average Thai citizen to have democracy has (again) been closed! It seems, the ruling elite keep on ruling with the backing of the military. LOS = Land of Sadness - for those who had hoped for something better in this modern world. ???? Pockets of Feudalism (cronyism and corruption) still remain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 8 hours ago, ukrules said: The fallout from this is going to be epic. When does the war start? let the games begin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrobbo Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Well, no surprises there. Was anyone seriously expecting the "election" to produce a dilution of the military dictatorship? Edited May 15, 2019 by geoffrobbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 9 hours ago, unamazedloso said: All future hopes of democracy and a better future for Thailands now gone. A sad time indeed. The Thai people only have themselves to blame. There is a saying,...."People have the governments they deserve" !!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 49 minutes ago, Mavideol said: how can a government spend so much money and time, go through a mock election just to make a mockery out of the all process not to mention mocking the people as well Anything goes to stay in power !!!! Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac !!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 A profane post and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 9 hours ago, ukrules said: The fallout from this is going to be epic. When does the war start? When the gloves come off in the "rivalry" between factions in the military. That will be a fight to the death 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JAG said: When the gloves come off in the "rivalry" between factions in the military. That will be a fight to the death And IF (a big 'if') what you predict above, my friend, comes to pass, neither side of the army in internecine conflict will be fighting for the ordinary Thai people and for genuine democracy. You mark my words! Edited May 15, 2019 by Eligius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 hours ago, jesimps said: Be nice to see what the junta fans on here have to say in response. The usual twaddle I should imagine. As they sing on the football terraces: " it's all gone quiet over there, it's all gone quiet over there." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Srikcir said: Especially after the Army's recent $80 million purchase of 37 Stryker armored cars from the United States. Hmm, one battalions worth? I wonder just where that battalion is based, and just where it's loyalties lie! If you look at the recent purchases, they will equip a small but powerful force, enough to stand against a large, ill trained and poorly equiped ( Vietnam era) conscript army... Edited May 15, 2019 by JAG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Eligius said: And IF (a big 'if') what you predict above, my friend, comes to pass, neither side of the army in internecine conflict will be fighting for the ordinary Thai people and for genuine democracy. You mark my words! Indeed, and the ordinary Thai people know it - that is why they are keeping out of the way! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaleySabai Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 4 hours ago, 30la said: Ups, the Thai government and Senate are becoming more and more militarized (even the policemen are military), where does democracy remain ??? It's there floating in the currents of Baht & Satang but with a different face and name - "de-mock-acy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaleySabai Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, off road pat said: There is a saying,...."People have the governments they deserve" !!! Yes, I certainly heard that numerous times about America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zack61 Posted May 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Eligius said: Totally agree with you, Enoon (above). But what 'has to come' will not come yet. The Thais will need to hurt a lot, lot, LOT more first before they actually DO anything - in numbers that matter. It's so very sad to see a beautiful and (generally) friendly people who have been so ground down and terrorised that they have actually (nearly all) lost their backbone ... It’s illegal, like so many other things, to have a backbone. This is truly sad but not unexpected. Unfortunately the big P has the bigger pistola and he is prepared to use it. I can’t think of a single country that will have anything to say about this. Shame on them all. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddox41 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 You didn't expect any different?? What makes me laugh is family members in the senate <deleted>. 20 yrs of this no thx its embarrassing how they truly believe there own bullshit As, mentioned the 1 % hiso elite will be very happy. But if you talk to thai friends about it they don't care. They have no voice and don't want to know. So Thailand 2019 run by a bunch of old corrupt criminals purely there to help themselves and the social elite. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Off topic trolling posts containing comments in violation of the following public notice have been removed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy723 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 if the pm really wanted to make Thailand happy he would not have corrupted the election. He lies every time he opens his mouth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 12 hours ago, webfact said: “Make the comparison. Look how many legislations they made in the past five years. It’s more than 500. Before that, how many did they do? It’s unparalleled.” He must be joking, the NLA was a rubber stamp parliament, there was no opposition at all. Meanwhile when it comes to economic development, and advancement, it is indeed unparalleled, despite all the legislation, Thailand went down, not up. Best evidence why democracy is preferred above dictatorship. Prayuth, you are so full of shit, it isn't even funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 12 hours ago, unamazedloso said: All future hopes of democracy and a better future for Thailands now gone. A sad time indeed. The Thai people only have themselves to blame. How is that, the bloke staged a coup. Nobody actually voted for him. The blame is on the coup mongers and no-one else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: Warned and warned again and again on this forum but ignored and shouted down by the usual Thaksin obsessives. Hope they are thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Never let them forget. Yep, some of them even now won't shut up. Despite overwhelming evidence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 You cannot make this stuff up !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sjaak327 Posted May 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Baerboxer said: That's not totally true. The PP Junta and current PM supporting party received the largest number of votes of any party. 7-8 million voted for them. So you've been asking the one's who didn't. Whether those who voted to support PP and the Junta fully understood all the implications of having a Junta party probably forming the next government, with a Junta appointed senate is debatable. They will soon understand now they've got what they voted for. It seems a decision was taken to stop one faction ever gaining control again, stop the musical chairs and the alternating of power between factions. One group has come out on top and will do everything to stay there. As for the 90% of the population who don't control the wealth - no one really cares what they think or want. Which sadly is in line with most countries these days. Hmm, of course you conveniently forget that PTP was sabotaged and was only able to contest the elections in 250 out of 350 constituencies, and despite this fact STILL WON the election, where it won over half of the constituencies it actually did field candidates, considering this little tidbit, they added another conclusive election win. Futhermore, there is a clear majority for the anti junta block. And without the EC trying to cheat, the pro junta block cannot muster a normal majority in parliament. Of course the democrats might join the pro junta block, but since they campaigned to not do just that, it is very safe to say, that the vast majority of the Thai electorate has said NO to Prayuth. Of course, with all the cheating, he still stands a reasonable chance to become the next PM, but if the electorate had any say, he would have no chance at all. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DPKANKAN Posted May 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, sjaak327 said: Hmm, of course you conveniently forget that PTP was sabotaged and was only able to contest the elections in 250 out of 350 constituencies, and despite this fact STILL WON the election, where it won over half of the constituencies it actually did field candidates, considering this little tidbit, they added another conclusive election win. Futhermore, there is a clear majority for the anti junta block. And without the EC trying to cheat, the pro junta block cannot muster a normal majority in parliament. Of course the democrats might join the pro junta block, but since they campaigned to not do just that, it is very safe to say, that the vast majority of the Thai electorate has said NO to Prayuth. Of course, with all the cheating, he still stands a reasonable chance to become the next PM, but if the electorate had any say, he would have no chance at all. 22% voted for the Junta. 78% voted for others. Can't think anyone can say that they won the popular vote!!!???????????????? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sjaak327 Posted May 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, DPKANKAN said: 22% voted for the Junta. 78% voted for others. Can't think anyone can say that they won the popular vote!!!???????????????? Thailand does not have a popular vote system anymore. Getting the most votes, is absolutely meaningless, more so since the party list votes have been abandoned. Replaced by a formula that is anything but democratic and sees PTP with 8 million votes, no grabbing even a single Party list vote, and 11 parties that didn't even get enough votes for a single seat, now all been awarded a seat by the EC. The cheating continues, yet still no majority for the pro junta party ???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Today both The Nation and the Bangkok Post have led with articles damning the Government, but; and this is key; not the current military Government but the upcoming Government of a new "democratic" era. Are these English language newspapers testing the boundaries? Are Thai language papers also speaking out strongly? How, or if, the new Government responds to criticism could be telling for the future press freedoms, and for those of the general public in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted May 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, sjaak327 said: Thailand does not have a popular vote system anymore. Getting the most votes, is absolutely meaningless, more so since the party list votes have been abandoned. Replaced by a formula that is anything but democratic and sees PTP with 8 million votes, no grabbing even a single Party list vote, and 11 parties that didn't even get enough votes for a single seat, now all been awarded a seat by the EC. The cheating continues, yet still no majority for the pro junta party ???? you don't need a majority, just guns, lots of guns. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zyphodb Posted May 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, soalbundy said: you don't need a majority, just guns, lots of guns. And Armored cars, don't forget the Armored cars....... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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