It takes a child to see the junta has no clothes

[spidermike007]

This dimwit, who has again been appointed to a position of great power, even though he showed he was highly unqualified, and grossly incompetent over the past five years, now complains that his approval is not 100%. These fools just do not see how despised they are, especially by the youth of this nation.

 

Deputy Prime Minister Prawit claimed the high school students were tools of a conspiracy among adults who were exploiting the occasion for political gain. “Teenagers could not express ideas about political developments in this way by themselves. They have must have been brainwashed, perhaps by teachers spiteful about the new [ministerial] portfolios,” he said.

 

He could not possibly be more wrong. The youth are smarter than he thinks, and sees right through the charade, into the dark heart of this imposter. 

[spidermike007]

Just now, spidermike007 said:

This dimwit, who has again been appointed to a position of great power, even though he showed he was highly unqualified, and grossly incompetent over the past five years, now complains that his approval is not 100%. These fools just do not see how despised they are, especially by the youth of this nation. At the Moto GP last year in Buriram, this same fool tried to make a speech, and had to sit down after tens of thousands in attendance stood up, and screamed disapproval at him. You could not hear a word he said, which was a good thing, as he had nothing to say, as usual.

 

Deputy Prime Minister Prawit claimed the high school students were tools of a conspiracy among adults who were exploiting the occasion for political gain. “Teenagers could not express ideas about political developments in this way by themselves. They have must have been brainwashed, perhaps by teachers spiteful about the new [ministerial] portfolios,” he said.

 

He could not possibly be more wrong. The youth are smarter than he thinks, and they see right through the charade, into the dark heart of this imposter. It is about time students start speaking up. Both to the authorities, and their teachers. 

 

[Misterwhisper]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Prawit’s reaction reflected a conviction, widespread among Thai adults, that children are incapable of thinking for themselves and must always follow the directions of adults.

Actually, it's the other way round. Teenagers who start thinking for themselves and develop independent thought are systematically reigned in, berated and reprimanded by adults, their ideas being suppressed and branded as "disrespectful". And this brainwashing process eventually transforms them into the adult sheep that our leaders want them to be.

[neeray]

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

He could not possibly be more wrong. The youth are smarter than he thinks, and sees right through the charade, into the dark heart of this imposter. 

These are Cyber youth. They are much more informed than he was at that age.

[Eligius]

44 minutes ago, Krabi King said:

To the students, youth and young generation:

 

"Do not believe in what you have heard; do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations; do not believe in anything because it is rumoured and spoken by many; do not believe merely because a written statement of some old sage is produced; do not believe in conjectures; do not believe in that as truth to which you have become attached from habit; do not believe merely the authority of your teachers and elders. After observation and analysis, when it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and gain of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

 

Good luck!

It always amazes me that the country which claims to be so, so Buddhist, carefully evades the implementation of the sagely advice given above (in paraphrase) - by the Buddha!

The Buddha actually said DON'T (blindly) follow tradition, and DON'T (blindly) follow what your teachers have told you!

The Buddha was one of the very first advocates of liberation from fettering tradition and of free enquiry.

How ironic that the present ruling thugs claim to revere and protect that same Buddhist Truth - while in fact doing everything to pervert it into blind obedience to authority and unquestioning submission to tradition.

Truly sickening.

 

 

Edited June 18, 2019 by Eligius

[spidermike007]

4 minutes ago, Eligius said:

It always amazes me that the country which claims to be so, so Buddhist, carefully evades the implementation of the sagely advice given above (in paraphrase) - by the Buddha!

The Buddha actually said DON'T (blindly) follow tradition, and DON'T (blindly) follow what your teachers have told you!

The Buddha was one of the very first advocates of liberation from fettering tradition and of free enquiry.

How ironic that the present ruling thugs claim to revere and protect that same Buddhist Truth - while in fact doing everything to pervert it into blind obedience to authority and tradition.

Truly sickening.

 

 

Good points. It all comes down to face, and the inability to look within for the source of the problem. Face is no doubt, the greatest form of weakness, a human can engage in. Many will say it is societal, cultural, etc. No matter. It is the absolute and complete lack of the ability to introspect, and look within for the source of any problem, shortcoming, conflict, or issue. It is the polar opposite of spirituality, and therefore an absolute scourge on Buddha, and all of the precepts he taught. By practicing face, you are denying your spiritual heritage. You are refusing to man up. To take responsibility for your actions. If a man or a woman cannot, and will not take responsibility for their actions, the problems they create, the mistakes they make, and the issues they involve themselves in, what are they? Are they still an adult? Are they a complete individual, if they allow themselves to be limited by such infinitely small social convention? 

[Eligius]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Good points. It all comes down to face, and the inability to look within for the source of the problem. Face is no doubt, the greatest form of weakness, a human can engage in. Many will say it is societal, cultural, etc. No matter. It is the absolute and complete lack of the ability to introspect, and look within for the source of any problem, shortcoming, conflict, or issue. It is the polar opposite of spirituality, and therefore an absolute scourge on Buddha, and all of the precepts he taught. By practicing face, you are denying your spiritual heritage. You are refusing to man up. To take responsibility for your actions. If a man or a woman cannot, and will not take responsibility for their actions, the problems they create, the mistakes they make, and the issues they involve themselves in, what are they? Are they still an adult? Are they a complete individual, if they allow themselves to be limited by such infinitely small social convention? 

Well said, Spidermike007. Introspection and self-responsibility are key components of the Buddha Path.

Yes: 'face' is simply another word for 'ego'. And the irony is that one of the key concepts of the Buddha's teaching was 'non-ego' - not to be obsessed with 'self', but much more concerned with others and their welfare.

How ironic, when we see what the thuggish Guardians of Buddhist Morality in Thailand are actually like and how they live out their authoritarian, domineering lives!

 

Edited June 18, 2019 by Eligius

[spidermike007]

5 minutes ago, Eligius said:

Well said, Spidermike007. Introspection and self-responsibility are key components of the Buddha Path.

Yes: 'face' is simply another word for 'ego'. And the irony is that one of the key concepts of the Buddha's teaching was 'non-ego' - not to be obsessed with 'self', but much more concerned with others and their welfare.

How ironic, when we see what the thuggish Guardians of Buddhist Morality in Thailand are actually like and how they live out their authoritarian, domineering lives!

 

It is fake puritanism being taught by those who know less than zero about Spirit, and less than zero about purity. It is nationalistic nonsense. Meant for the least educated, and most gullible. 

[Eligius]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

It is fake puritanism being taught by those who know less than zero about Spirit, and less than zero about purity. It is nationalistic nonsense. Meant for the least educated, and most gullible. 

I have to say it again, Spidermike (at the risk of sounding sycophantic): you've hit the nail on the head yet again.

Since when was the Buddha a nationalist???!!!!!!

NEVER   NEVER    NEVER!!!

And yet these staunch 'Buddhists' and Defenders of Buddhism are ultra-nationalistic.

I begin to think the concept of hypocrisy was invented in Thailand!

[potless]

7 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

As long as the younger generation continues to question and criticise those in power, we remain hopeful of positive change – especially once this current crop of authoritarian leaders has gone.

To be replaced by who? What the younger generation will learn over time is that regime change isnt always a silver bullet. Swapping deckchairs on the Titanic springs to mind. Political parties that cry "foul" rightly or wrongly after an election seems to be the order of the day. Democrats in the U.S. and "remainers" in the U.K. as modern day examples. "Hopeful" of change is as good as it gets. I feel many voters in different countries dont believe the pre election hogwash. They vote for the lesser of two evils. Ultimately, its the same meat but different gravy.

[BobBKK]

The dinosaurs will be gone one day and the hope is in the youth.

 

"And I'll get on my knees and pray

We don't get fooled again

Don't get fooled again"

The Who

[rott]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is fake puritanism being taught by those who know less than zero about Spirit, and less than zero about purity. It is nationalistic nonsense. Meant for the least educated, and most gullible. 

Fake puritanism?

 

The name Puritan was given to that section of the Church of England that wished to "purify" the C of E of Popish rituals and practices.

[RichardColeman]

I've still yet to meet anyone that voted for a junta party

[manchega]

Happy to say the younger gen are more savvy than us - anyone else felt like their early life was a verse from crash test dummies?

 

there really is the worlds knowledge in the pocket of almost everyone, kids really can and do question stuff that certainly my social peers were'nt ( admittedly we spent a lot of time faced and wishing we had been teens/young adults in 60/70's) 

 

There is hope and with a little luck an increasingly less powerful general will be overthrown, 

[spidermike007]

39 minutes ago, rott said:

Fake puritanism?

 

The name Puritan was given to that section of the Church of England that wished to "purify" the C of E of Popish rituals and practices.

Puritan. Quaker. Primness. Prudishness. Moralism. Call it what you want. This administration is hell bent on instilling a false sense of nationalism, that includes all of that. And it is being instilled by guys who would not recognize those qualities if they bit them on the butt. 

[ocddave]

9 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I've still yet to meet anyone that voted for a junta party

Maybe they counted all Junta votes 10 times, only once for all others.

[OneMoreFarang]

I started reading this article in the printed edition this morning. And then I stopped reading it.

Does the author really think young kids get these ideas to show their political views in school? Or are there maybe some adults who use the kids for their own reasons?

[RJRS1301]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I started reading this article in the printed edition this morning. And then I stopped reading it.

Does the author really think young kids get these ideas to show their political views in school? Or are there maybe some adults who use the kids for their own reasons?

They form views from all their contact with others, and to think senior students do not have political points of view is naïve 

Students are probably more savvy now than ever before and have access to the internet their entire life, we had to use books to research.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

They form views from all their contact with others, and to think senior students do not have political points of view is naïve 

Students are probably more savvy now than ever before and have access to the internet their entire life, we had to use books to research.

Yes, senior student do that. But not junior students. 

The headline is: It takes a child to see the junta has no clothes

Edited June 18, 2019 by OneMoreFarang

[RJRS1301]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Yes, senior student do that. But not junior students. 

The headline is: It takes a child to see the junta has no clothes

My ten year old great niece has political opinions, she reads news, questions issues and requires intelligent response

Also plays great games as children should

 

I am unsure of the age of students, but lets not sell them short.

[Krataiboy]

 

Deputy Prime Minister Prawit claimed the high school students were tools of a conspiracy among adults 

 

. . . As opposed to being tools of a conspiracy by the state education system.

[potless]

13 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

 

Students are probably more savvy now than ever before and have access to the internet their entire life, we had to use books to research.

Okay. But how are they supposed to know whether what they read is true and what is false whatever the source? Fake news abounds, political spin and propaganda. Adults are easily misled and/or confused by it all. 

[RJRS1301]

11 minutes ago, potless said:

Okay. But how are they supposed to know whether what they read is true and what is false whatever the source? Fake news abounds, political spin and propaganda. Adults are easily misled and/or confused by it all. 

One hopes that high school students have some critical thinking and use more than one source for information, talk to others, seek opinions from those more knowledgeable. 

No guarantees, but critical thinking is a good start.

 

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I started reading this article in the printed edition this morning. And then I stopped reading it.

Does the author really think young kids get these ideas to show their political views in school? Or are there maybe some adults who use the kids for their own reasons?

Take a long hard look at Hong Kong.

 

Everyone knows who is pulling the strings there, it's no secret. NED.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said:

My ten year old great niece has political opinions, she reads news, questions issues and requires intelligent response

Also plays great games as children should

 

I am unsure of the age of students, but lets not sell them short.

Sure, some children are informed. But how many of them would do something which is described in the article without first asking their parents of teachers for approval? 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 minute ago, Traubert said:

Take a long hard look at Hong Kong.

 

Everyone knows who is pulling the strings there, it's no secret. NED.

I don't think everybody knows. I.e. I don't know who is pulling the strings there. And there are many reasons why I don't know it. One is that it's not important enough for me to inform myself in detail about it. And I would not make up my mind about things like that without being well informed. Too many people believe what they want to believe because they read something somewhere or they saw a video or a "friend" mentioned in on facebook. That's in my opinion not good enough to make up my mind. 

I can watch some news and get some impressions - but I am not there and don't know enough people in HK to get an accurate picture about what is happening there. Reading BBC etc. is in my opinion not good enough - I don't trust them anymore since I saw how incompetent they report about Thailand.

[GarryP]

8 hours ago, owl sees all said:

My friend's son went on an Thai Army week end.

 

Throughout the stay it was made clear to the youngsters that the Thai military had saved Thailand.

 

He is 13, and has a farang father; fortunately, and gets told the other side of the story. The Thai kids might not get such a balanced view.

 

Could this be one of the real reasons they do not want to end conscription? Perhaps, the 6 months to 2 years of conscription gives them enough time to indoctrinate these young men. 

[Eric Loh]

11 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Sure, some children are informed. But how many of them would do something which is described in the article without first asking their parents of teachers for approval? 

I say none but how am I know for sure. You don’t know too. We both are out of touch with the teens thinking today. So why ask a hypothetical question. 

[pornprong]

7 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

My niece, who is actually more like my daughter, just finished her final year if Law School at Mae Fah luang, in the top 10% of her class. In other words, one smart young lady. She is absolutely furious over what she calls a "B.S. rigged election", and tells me that most of her friends, and fellow law students feel the same way.

Well, she won't get far in her career with an attitude like that.

 

If there is any group in Thailand that rivals the military for responsibility for causing the current situation - it is the judiciary - it is yellow through and through, justice be damned.

[GarryP]

21 minutes ago, pornprong said:

Well, she won't get far in her career with an attitude like that.

 

If there is any group in Thailand that rivals the military for responsibility for causing the current situation - it is the judiciary - it is yellow through and through, justice be damned.

Why not? I know many lawyers who have advanced in their careers and have a strong dislike of the junta and what happened in the recent farce, sometimes referred to as an election. The vast majority of law graduates do not join the judiciary.