Trump launches re-election campaign, presents himself as outsider and victim

[RJRS1301]

8 hours ago, attrayant said:

 

Even people living there don't know what's happening all over the country. They might have firsthand experience about what's happening to them and their immediate circle of friends and acquaintances.  As for what's happening nationally, they find out the same way expats do: they watch town hall discussions, see people airing their grievances live and see the protest marches on the international news.  Just because you might live in Podunk, PA does not mean you know what's going on all over the country.

 

Yours is a sad attempt to shut down the conversation by claiming others aren't speaking from firsthand experience.

 

 

It would help if the very average citizen was less parochial, did know there was a world beyond their state border, and realise that other countries have achieved much and have world views.

 

[Krataiboy]

1 hour ago, mikebike said:

???? You were doing soooo good until you posted the image!!

 

Can you define a "trend line" in statistical analysis for me now please? ????????

Delighted. So in addition to all the economic improvements he has presided over, Trump has also added impetus to the upward dynamic of the stock market. 

 

Thanks for emphasising the point.

[Chomper Higgot]

Trump didn't like the polling data so he fired the pollsters. 

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/national_general_election/

[RJRS1301]

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

Wonderful speech, he will crush pervy Biden or comrade silly Sanders. Trump is a great communicator, expect 4 more years of screaming at the sky by vindictive clueless democrats ????

Great communicator?? Wonder by whose standards.

He can barely string a coherent sentence together, he shouts, bullies and lies, how is that communication?

He is unable to research facts let alone regurgitate them. 

[Jingthing]

Great communicator?? Wonder by whose standards.
He can barely string a coherent sentence together, he shouts, bullies and lies, how is that communication?
He is unable to research facts let alone regurgitate them. 

He's a great troll and propagandist. He leads by hate, chaos, and fear.

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[marcusarelus]

37 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Great communicator?? Wonder by whose standards.

He can barely string a coherent sentence together, he shouts, bullies and lies, how is that communication?

He is unable to research facts let alone regurgitate them. 

Yup right 100%.  He won.  Can you imagine how bad the competition was?  Boggles the mind. 

[RJRS1301]

9 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Yup right 100%.  He won.  Can you imagine how bad the competition was?  Boggles the mind. 

He did not get the "popular" vote, without the electoral college, he would be doing >>>>>>>>>??????

 

They didn't want him , they just disliked the opposition more. Raw numbers he lost spectacularly

 

[candide]

4 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

No, what is truly sad is your pathetic inability, shared by the anti-Trump BBC, to give credit where it is due.

 

The facts about the healthier US economy in the BBC article speak for themselves: GDP at 4.2 percent, unemployment just 3.7 percent and wages at 2.9 percent outstripping inflation.

 

Here's another link which doubtless will have you spitting blood: 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/10/donald-trump-gives-the-economy-a-boost/

 

If you actually read the BBC report (which I am beginning to doubt) you will know that it had to dig back more than half a century - to the post-war boom years of the Fifties and Sixties - to find comparably impressive figures, before grudgingly conceding "The indicators currently are good - but not the best ever."

 

Talk about damning with faint praise! Fortunately, the soaring US stock market shows investors have faith in Trump's handling of the economy. . . 

 

 

 

Well, there was already a trend there, as the graph shows. It is true that Trump's figures are a bit above the trend from past years. It is the same for GDP growth and employment as the article shows.

 

Now how has it been achieved? By increasing budget deficit and debts much more than during the last years of Obama's presidency. Anyone knows it works on short term.

 

There is only a slight problem: debts will need to be repaid later, either as repayment or as interest payment. So the average taxpayer will have to pay later for the people who currently benefit from tax cuts and stock exchange gains.

[marcusarelus]

1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said:

He did not get the "popular" vote, without the electoral college, he would be doing >>>>>>>>>??????

 

They didn't want him , they just disliked the opposition more. Raw numbers he lost spectacularly

 

The American system has never used the popular vote for the President.  He didn't get the majority of of ice cream sellers either but it has absolutely nothing to do with electing a President in America.  Like saying Boris Johnson didn't get the majority of the popular vote when it's only among his party.  In both instances the popular vote has nothing to do with the election.  It was only 1% anyway.  Like I said can you imagine putting up a candidate whom Trump could beat?  Looks like they'll do it again too.  Can you imagine the fun when they pick someone supporting slave reparations.  

[Krataiboy]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Well, there was already a trend there, as the graph shows. It is true that Trump's figures are a bit above the trend from past years. It is the same for GDP growth and employment as the article shows.

 

Now how has it been achieved? By increasing budget deficit and debts much more than during the last years of Obama's presidency. Anyone knows it works on short term.

 

There is only a slight problem: debts will need to be repaid later, either as repayment or as interest payment. So the average taxpayer will have to pay later for the people who currently benefit from tax cuts and stock exchange gains.

There's just no pleasin' some folk!

[candide]

40 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

There's just no pleasin' some folk!

So you think that, during a period of regular growth, it's ok to finance extra growth with exessive budget deficit and debt increase. Ok, it's your opinion.

[heybruce]

8 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

No, what is truly sad is your pathetic inability, shared by the anti-Trump BBC, to give credit where it is due.

 

The facts about the healthier US economy in the BBC article speak for themselves: GDP at 4.2 percent, unemployment just 3.7 percent and wages at 2.9 percent outstripping inflation.

 

Here's another link which doubtless will have you spitting blood: 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/10/donald-trump-gives-the-economy-a-boost/

 

If you actually read the BBC report (which I am beginning to doubt) you will know that it had to dig back more than half a century - to the post-war boom years of the Fifties and Sixties - to find comparably impressive figures, before grudgingly conceding "The indicators currently are good - but not the best ever."

 

Talk about damning with faint praise! Fortunately, the soaring US stock market shows investors have faith in Trump's handling of the economy. . . 

 

 

 

GDP reached 4.2% for one quarter under Trump, then dropped.  It had larger quarterly increases three times under Obama.  None of the information you've provided show anything other than the continuation of a trend begun early in the Obama administration, temporarily goosed up with unsustainable tax cuts and deficit increases.

 

BTW, the Washington Times was founded by Rev Moon, a cult leader with a political agenda.  It is not considered the best of sources.

[Krataiboy]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

GDP reached 4.2% for one quarter under Trump, then dropped.  It had larger quarterly increases three times under Obama.  None of the information you've provided show anything other than the continuation of a trend begun early in the Obama administration, temporarily goosed up with unsustainable tax cuts and deficit increases.

 

BTW, the Washington Times was founded by Rev Moon, a cult leader with a political agenda.  It is not considered the best of sources.

Time will tell whether Trump is just riding high(er) on Obama's coat-tails. 

 

Re The Washington Times, former Republican President Ronald Reagan held it in high regard and read it every day. "The American people know the truth," he once remarked. "You, my friends at The Washington Times, have told it to them". 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[heybruce]

44 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Time will tell whether Trump is just riding high(er) on Obama's coat-tails. 

 

Re The Washington Times, former Republican President Ronald Reagan held it in high regard and read it every day. "The American people know the truth," he once remarked. "You, my friends at The Washington Times, have told it to them".

Well, that makes a cult owned newspaper ok then, doesn't it?  ????

[OtinPattaya]

Keep believing that all Trump supporters are "rubes" and you'll find yourself with another 4 years of Trump. This is the sort of Cali/New Yorker arrogance that got him elected in the first place. And the notion that Trump is the main source of divisiveness in American is laughable. The media is vastly more to blame for this than a single man with a loud mouth and a weird hairdo. 

 

Don't forget why a big chunk of you expats fled your own home countries in the first place: to escape the man-defaming pestilence of feminism, the stifling political-correctness, and masochistic immigration policies--all of which will blossom like a demon flower if a democrat gets elected in 2020. 

[riclag]

3 minutes ago, meand said:

This is going to be a very telling election. We are going to find out how stupid and racist the American people really are. 

Do you always judge a country by who they elect as a POTUS or who runs the media ! 

[OtinPattaya]

24 minutes ago, meand said:

This is going to be a very telling election. We are going to find out how stupid and racist the American people really are. 

Well, were we to elect a thousand Donald Trumps I don't think we'd still be as brainless as this comment is. 

[bristolboy]

4 hours ago, OtinPattaya said:

Don't forget why a big chunk of you expats fled your own home countries in the first place: to escape the man-defaming pestilence of feminism, the stifling political-correctness, and masochistic immigration policies--all of which will blossom like a demon flower if a democrat gets elected in 2020. 

I would say you're projecting, but I doubt that it's true even in your case. But if it is true, what kind of patriot runs away when the American he loves so dearly is endangered by "the man-defaming pestilence of feminism, the stifling political-correctness, and masochistic immigration policies" "Now is the time for all good men....

[Tug]

Did anyone watch Steven Colbert?he had a crew at donalds ralley lol the trump team refused their press credentials so they filmed the empty overflow lot full of trash with no one watching the big screens then they walked up and bought tickets no problem lots of empty seats lol so donalds rally dident sell out as Donald would love to say fake news lol

[heybruce]

6 minutes ago, Tug said:

Did anyone watch Steven Colbert?he had a crew at donalds ralley lol the trump team refused their press credentials so they filmed the empty overflow lot full of trash with no one watching the big screens then they walked up and bought tickets no problem lots of empty seats lol so donalds rally dident sell out as Donald would love to say fake news lol

I saw that, it was great.  We can add the BS about the event being sold out and tens of thousands forced to watch from outside to the long list of Trump lies. 

 

The "correspondents" went on-line when the event started and had no problem buying tickets for the "sold-out" event.  There was a good size crowd inside, but definitely not a capacity crowd.  No doubt Trump will call this reality check fake news.

[RJRS1301]

18 minutes ago, Tug said:

Did anyone watch Steven Colbert?he had a crew at donalds ralley lol the trump team refused their press credentials so they filmed the empty overflow lot full of trash with no one watching the big screens then they walked up and bought tickets no problem lots of empty seats lol so donalds rally dident sell out as Donald would love to say fake news lol

You mean people pay to go to those things

Listen to an ill researched inarticulate person ramble on and pay for it, there is no cure for stupidity

 

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, OtinPattaya said:

Keep believing that all Trump supporters are "rubes" and you'll find yourself with another 4 years of Trump. This is the sort of Cali/New Yorker arrogance that got him elected in the first place. And the notion that Trump is the main source of divisiveness in American is laughable. The media is vastly more to blame for this than a single man with a loud mouth and a weird hairdo. 

 

Don't forget why a big chunk of you expats fled your own home countries in the first place: to escape the man-defaming pestilence of feminism, the stifling political-correctness, and masochistic immigration policies--all of which will blossom like a demon flower if a democrat gets elected in 2020. 

A lot of people from states other than New York and California find Trump appalling.

 

Also, I came to Thailand for good food, friendly people, pretty ladies and to have a first world standard of living for much less money than in the west.  Feminism and political correctness don't bother me.  I agree the US immigration policies need improving, but a wall on the border is an idiotic waste of money that would be better spent improving the immigration system and inspection capabilities at legal ports of entry.

[Berkshire]

7 hours ago, OtinPattaya said:

Don't forget why a big chunk of you expats fled your own home countries in the first place: to escape the man-defaming pestilence of feminism, the stifling political-correctness, and masochistic immigration policies--

Thanks for sharing why YOU left your home country.  But this has nothing to do with me.  You sound like one of those angry white men who thinks Trump is their savior.  You should have picked a better savior. 

[monkeycu]

I agree, Trump is a victim, of his own stupidity

[Jingthing]

28 minutes ago, monkeycu said:

I agree, Trump is a victim, of his own stupidity

Yes and so are most of the American people (including most of his fans) and much of the world as well. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎6‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 8:23 PM, JHolmesJr said:

That was as powerful a launch as you could hope for...creepy Joe, warren, boot edge edge etc

hold their rallies in school halls and even then they look empty.

 

This guy has battled open bias from a media that shits on him 24/7

 

He fights for what he promised people and that is rare.

 

I can't see any democrat muppet beating him at this point.

 

 

Trump had a capacity crowd in the arena which can hold 22,000 people and more outside.

Joe had 6,000 at his launch, according to The Atlantic.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

Thanks for sharing why YOU left your home country.  But this has nothing to do with me.  You sound like one of those angry white men who thinks Trump is their savior.  You should have picked a better savior. 

He was the only one on the ballot. Had there been a better one they'd have voted for him. They certainly weren't going to let HRC win by default.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

A lot of people from states other than New York and California find Trump appalling.

 

Also, I came to Thailand for good food, friendly people, pretty ladies and to have a first world standard of living for much less money than in the west.  Feminism and political correctness don't bother me.  I agree the US immigration policies need improving, but a wall on the border is an idiotic waste of money that would be better spent improving the immigration system and inspection capabilities at legal ports of entry.

A lot of people can be a few thousand:-)

 

If you are living in LOS, of course feminism and political correctness don't bother you, as that blight on society has yet to make much of an inroad into the happy country.

It's possible to improve the immigration system AND build a wall. A wall might have stopped that child dying in the desert a while back, as they couldn't have actually crossed into the US for her to die there.

[heybruce]

35 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump had a capacity crowd in the arena which can hold 22,000 people and more outside.

Joe had 6,000 at his launch, according to The Atlantic.

Not quite capacity.  As has been mentioned, his "sold-out" event had seats available after it had started.

27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A lot of people can be a few thousand:-)

 

If you are living in LOS, of course feminism and political correctness don't bother you, as that blight on society has yet to make much of an inroad into the happy country.

It's possible to improve the immigration system AND build a wall. A wall might have stopped that child dying in the desert a while back, as they couldn't have actually crossed into the US for her to die there.

Tens of billions for a wall that wouldn't be built for years under the best of circumstances, that can't physically be located exactly on the border so will leave parts of the US unprotected on the Mexico side of the border (where asylum seekers can easily reach US territory) and has a lot of other problems because it "might" have saved a child.  Is that your argument?

 

You and Trump don't seem to understand that the US doesn't have unlimited resources, so it needs to spend where it can get the most good from the money spent.  There are countless better things to do with the money than build a useless wall.

[Rimmer]

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