Pheu Thai calls for probe into senators' selection

[snoop1130]

Pheu Thai calls for probe into senators' selection

By The Nation

 

 

The opposition Pheu Thai Party on Friday pushed for a parliamentary investigation into the selection of senators, which they alleged to be unconstitutional.

 

Pheu Thai spokesperson Ladawan Wongsriwong said General Prayut Chan-o-cha and other leaders of the ruling National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) had failed to disclose the composition of the senators selection committee in the Royal Gazette. She added that such an act could be against the Constitution.

 

"If that is the case, it means the selection of senators was null and void," she said at her party's headquarters.

 

The opposition politician said the failure to disclose names of the selection committee members led to suspicions among the public and the media.

 

"It is the duty of the House of Representatives to find facts about this matter," Ladawan said, adding that a fact-finding committee should be set up and its findings must be reported to the House.

 

She said House Speaker Chuan Leekpai has no reasons to reject the seven-party opposition bloc's motion seeking an investigation into the senators selection.

 

"The motion does not aim at verifying qualifications of senators, but rather it's a scrutiny on the selection of senators, and on the exercising of power by General Prayut as the NCPO head and by other NCPO members," Ladawan said.

 

"This also refers to the senators selection committee. What they did lacked political neutrality. The investigation was meant to find out if their action was constitutional," she said.

 

The committee charged with selecting and nominating senators was reportedly composed of members of the junta and the Prayut government. Some of the committee members were appointed senators.

 

Pheu Thai deputy spokesman Chumsai Sriyapai said it was against the spirit of the Constitution for NCPO figures to sit in the selection committee. He said this was against the law and could affect the status of senators.

 

"All the votes made by the senators may be considered null and void, including their support for General Prayut to become prime minister," he said.

 

The deputy spokesman also said that a petition could be filed with the Constitutional Court for a verdict on this matter.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30371522

 

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[Artisi]

Unconstutional, no worries - we will change it to conform, see easy-peasy - - anything else not constitutional while we're at it? 

[holy cow cm]

42 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

She said House Speaker Chuan Leekpai has no reasons to reject the seven-party opposition bloc's motion seeking an investigation into the senators selection

OH YEAH? His wife is a Khunying and he has a common wife he takes care of as they are all Elites. Going against the Junta is going against the ? Think higher than them. He could be demoted. 

42 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

43 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

The motion does not aim at verifying qualifications of senators, but rather it's a scrutiny on the selection of senators, and on the exercising of power by General Prayut as the NCPO head and by other NCPO members," Ladawan said.

 

I hope this is true and cannot be touched. You go GIRL!

44 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

The deputy spokesman also said that a petition could be filed with the Constitutional Court for a verdict on this matter.

OMG. Forget this as they are in the hand and the house of the Junta. Needs to be another avenue after the constitutional courts say no. 

 

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, holy cow cm said:

OH YEAH? His wife is a Khunying and he has a common wife he takes care of as they are all Elites. Going against the Junta is going against the ? Think higher than them. He could be demoted. 

 

Yes, mass petitions with several million signatures, or mass sit ins (no weapons) blocking traffic etc. (But beware of overzealous Army chief.)

 

 

[Artisi]

21 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Yes, mass petitions with several million signatures, or mass sit ins (no weapons) blocking traffic etc. (But beware of overzealous Army chief.)

 

 

Les Miserable - do you hear the people sing. 

Take note junta. 

[Matzzon]

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

which they alleged to be unconstitutional

No problem, Get used to it. Just to fall into the New Order.

Edited June 21, 2019 by Matzzon

[Lungstib]

Sadly there is nobody doing the probing. The same people being complained about are also the people who you are expecting to accept the complaint. Everything in the hands of the same small military clique who will tell you its legal and lawful. 

[yellowboat]

Things were far too quiet for the last 5 years.  At last there is some noise.   Will it matter to the Thai sheople ?   Maybe not, but without it no good changes will come about.  Will the usual junta sycophants say all is in order?  They will do it in verse like their leader off key leader.   Will the judiciary do what is right or what is expedient?  They will chose shortcuts that appease the inbred, shadowy elite and those in uniform every time.  But now at least some people will complain.     

[nong38]

I think the current lot are going to find that its not going to be as easy now that "democracy" has made a return as it has been over the last 5 years, its going to be a frustrating time for some will be interesting to see how things pan out. Life is not going to be as easy as some thought.

[hotchilli]

13 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

OH YEAH? His wife is a Khunying and he has a common wife he takes care of as they are all Elites. Going against the Junta is going against the ? Think higher than them. He could be demoted. 

 

Anarchy will come again!

[Ulic]

I am guessing that it was part of an article 44 amendment that perhaps was not published.

[holy cow cm]

12 hours ago, scorecard said:

(But beware of overzealous Army chief.)

Yeah you got that right. Beware of overzealous Army Chief who has a bone to pick to put him on the roster like his father.

[Srikcir]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

it's a scrutiny on the selection of senators, and on the exercising of power by General Prayut as the NCPO head and by other NCPO members,"

A very laudable and necessary oversight of the NLA of potential abuse of power by the Prayut government.

But,

The 2018/2019 Senate selection process was done under the auspices of the NCPO whose exercise of absolute power was recognized legitimate by the Constitutional Court.

Still the challenge should be vigorously made, if only to show the Thai electorate the undemocratic governance practiced by Prayut then and expected into the future, and the ineffectiveness of the Court to protect the Thai people from abuse of government power.

[RichardColeman]

As they came to power in a coup anyway, you think a signed petition will work ?

[scorecard]

11 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

As they came to power in a coup anyway, you think a signed petition will work ?

Good question. Maybe worth submitting the petition to see how it's processed?

 

(Meaning how many laws will be broken / bent out of shape / how many will be ignored / how much inconsistency in application across cases will be obvious ?)

Edited June 22, 2019 by scorecard

[scorecard]

51 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Good question. Maybe worth submitting the petition to see how it's processed?

 

(Meaning how many laws will be broken / bent out of shape / how many will be ignored / how much inconsistency in application across cases will be obvious ?)

And if it's a petition signed by large numbers of citizens and the petition was ignored then great ammunition for the opposition folds.

 

However if it's a petition, from my understanding the names have to be verified before the petition is fully accepted, that could be problematic if it means lots of folks hesitant to sign because their name will be checked and they possible assume their names maybe on a watch lst or similar. 

[lujanit]

Just sour grapes because she can’t her snout into the baht trough.

[Baerboxer]

Everytime Pheu Thai attempt to throw a spanner in the works you have to laugh! They couldn't even follow the law or respect parliamentary procedures when they governed with an overwhelming majority. Now, they suddenly become experts on the law and constitution.

 

Just jealous that they still can't get near the trough and the boss is probably angry that they can't fudge his whitewash again.

[Eric Loh]

39 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Everytime Pheu Thai attempt to throw a spanner in the works you have to laugh! They couldn't even follow the law or respect parliamentary procedures when they governed with an overwhelming majority. Now, they suddenly become experts on the law and constitution.

 

Just jealous that they still can't get near the trough and the boss is probably angry that they can't fudge his whitewash again.

Cool down. The topic is about senators. Even if PT want a place at the trough, they can’t. All appointed by your special one, 

[sjaak327]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

Everytime Pheu Thai attempt to throw a spanner in the works you have to laugh! They couldn't even follow the law or respect parliamentary procedures when they governed with an overwhelming majority. Now, they suddenly become experts on the law and constitution.

 

Just jealous that they still can't get near the trough and the boss is probably angry that they can't fudge his whitewash again.

Don't you get tired of your own but Thaksin ? The level of rule breaking the other side has shown, is absolutely massive in comparison to what Thaksin or PTP have ever done. Stop this deflecting, it gets awfully trying to have to read your drivel, and facts are in such a way, that you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

Of course the senator selection process needs to be examined, as the NCPO has appointed all of them without any oversight. And, the "approved constistution" said they could only vote when the lower house failed to reach an agreement, this has been changed after the fact. 

 

To be honest, are you not ashamed of your postings ? Never have I seen such a dishonest person. You should be ashamed, supporting this charade. Are you being paid to do so, I bet you are. 

 

As to the through, the PTP (by far) is the biggest party, so when democratic principles would have been adhered to, they would be the leading party, just as the electorate decided. As to whitewashing, stop the <deleted>, fear the amnesty that made it, not the one that never made it. Not the smartest knife are you ?

Edited June 22, 2019 by sjaak327

[chama]

On 6/21/2019 at 8:53 AM, Artisi said:

Unconstutional, no worries - we will change it to conform, see easy-peasy - - anything else not constitutional while we're at it? 

Are they still under the impression they had an election? This entire process was just for show so there would be validation from the international community.