15 hours ago, Kim1950 said:

Because the economy in China is tanking. Even the cheapest of Chinese can't do Thailand on the cheap

No. No it isn't. It's chugging along quite nicely thanks. Plenty of cashed up Chinese still on tour.

 

Much to the envy of quite a lot of countries, one of which is demanding a free slice of their pie.

4 hours ago, mikebell said:

If you lay out 50,000 baht on a plane ticket from Europe + hotel charges + entertainment and you can't go out for a decent meal and/or a drink for two of your allotted nights, you'll remember this tremendous waste of money for a long time. And then tell all your friends.

Maybe that would be a forgettable holiday then?

2 hours ago, johng said:

In many other countries there is no  ban on alcohol sales for Christmas and Easter so Pubs,bars,discos,hotels and restaurants  can and do continue business as usual..there is also no silly  time of day restrictions on sale of alcohol.

Well I think there is, certainly in UK, and a particular one is the USA. You never can be sure what the rules may be and when and where you can get a beer. Cross a county line and it all changes, never mind State line.

the general will bring back the 44 and fix everything no worries but his subs might need to wait a bit longer just in case

48 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Well I think there is, certainly in UK

Ok some places have restricted hours due to their alcohol licence...which the local authority issue

https://www.24houralcohol.co.uk/supermarket-booze-sales-times

they aren't forced stop selling at 2PM till 5PM and

Midnight till 11 AM every day,  and completely stop sales on "Religious days"  and "election days"

hold on have to go buy me beer before the 2pm dead line !!!!

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Well I think there is, certainly in UK, and a particular one is the USA. You never can be sure what the rules may be and when and where you can get a beer. Cross a county line and it all changes, never mind State line.

UK? Utter rubbish, you can go to a bar any day of the year and buy alcohol. 

Just in time !!

 

2 hours ago, PGThompson1 said:

UK? Utter rubbish, you can go to a bar any day of the year and buy alcohol. 

“Time gentleman please”! Wonder what that means?

2 hours ago, PGThompson1 said:

UK? Utter rubbish, you can go to a bar any day of the year and buy alcohol. 

I was commenting on the 'time of day' claim by that poster. Learn to read.

2 hours ago, PGThompson1 said:

UK? Utter rubbish, you can go to a bar any day of the year and buy alcohol. 

As you can in Thailand, just not all bars on special days. 

“Time gentleman please”! Wonder what that means?

Now it means the pub is closing....before 24 hour sale was legal it would mean its that time 11pm and we can't sell anymore alcohol.

As you can in Thailand, just not all bars on special days. 

Not legally.

1 minute ago, johng said:

45 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

As you can in Thailand, just not all bars on special days. 

Not legally.

Yes, as if that was a point.

Edited July 18, 20196 yr by jacko45k

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

Yes, as if that was a point.

But you can drink in any UK bar any day of the week LEGALLY, there are also 24 hour licencing laws all over the country as well as night clubs, casinos etc. The only day you can't buy alcohol in large supermarkets is Easter Sunday but all the pubs can sell alcohol on that day.

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

I was commenting on the 'time of day' claim by that poster. Learn to read.

I can read very clearly thank you, I was commenting on his first sentence, perhaps you should enunciate what part you were commenting on, google is your friend for the definition of enunciate!

5 minutes ago, Kim J said:

The word crash is being bandied about too freely and the likelihood of a total crash in Pattaya or anywhere else in Thailand is indeed most unlikely. But anyone suggesting that there isn't currently a serious downturn is utterly deluded. Is it a long term thing or will everything recover on it's own? Only time will tell.

I would also add to that that the current situation will not be attributed to one factor, or even just the ones mentioned in this thread, there are many many reasons why people of all nationalities have changed their behaviour towards Thailand and it will ultimately be down to a combination of all of them.

What percent is serious?   A recession is two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth as measured by a country's gross domestic product (GDP).  

On 7/17/2019 at 1:14 PM, petemoss said:

It has been said but prices are going up due to the lack of customers. They now need to make a month's salary from one customer. I don't think that many bar girls have a degree in economics.

Cannot say for the degree in economics, but some definately could claim a diploma in english fluency....far better then my google-iPhone Thai !

Got to love Thailand shutting down the booze places, good thing there are the Thai mom

and pop places that sell beer anytime.  555.  What a country, good thing it is tropical.

or the tourism would only be in Winter months. 

Geezer 

13 hours ago, PGThompson1 said:

But you can drink in any UK bar any day of the week LEGALLY, there are also 24 hour licencing laws all over the country as well as night clubs, casinos etc. The only day you can't buy alcohol in large supermarkets is Easter Sunday but all the pubs can sell alcohol on that day.

Legally, what has that got to do with real life in Thailand? If I want to find a place to have a drink in Thailand, I can find one. As to the UK, that is not the case. Many pubs close in the afternoons, there is no business. When there were controlled hours, they were open. It is of course very silly of places like Pattaya etc to have these alcohol free days, closing pretty much all nighttime venues. But they have decided  major religious days and voting days will be no alcohol (despite the fact that tourists do not vote). Outside of that, beer bars are open from 10am to 3am, some 24hour. Not so in the UK. And supermarkets are irrelevant, if I want to buy alcohol, I do it the day before a holiday, my fridge in Thailand is loaded every holiday. 

Edited July 18, 20196 yr by jacko45k

13 hours ago, PGThompson1 said:

I can read very clearly thank you, I was commenting on his first sentence, perhaps you should enunciate what part you were commenting on, google is your friend for the definition of enunciate!

And I wasn't, hence I quoted the whole post, which wasn't yours by the way. You were just looking to cause friction and butt in. 

 

20 hours ago, PGThompson1 said:

But you can drink in any UK bar any day of the week LEGALLY, there are also 24 hour licencing laws all over the country as well as night clubs, casinos etc. The only day you can't buy alcohol in large supermarkets is Easter Sunday but all the pubs can sell alcohol on that day.

What has that got to do with Thailand? Where by the way I can also buy a beer any day of the year.

Edited July 19, 20196 yr by jacko45k

I'm in Norway and just paid 500 baht for a beer. The food is good but who wants to eat out when a normal dish is minimum 400 baht +++ . So I miss Pattaya already. 

Not really on the main topic. Just came back from a week at the koh chang paradise resort, on koh chang, and it was very nice. Got crowded last friday thru sunday, but rest of the week was moderate.

 

Beach was fantastic, restaurants were busy but not full, locals friendly. All in all nice week away. Most visitors seemed to be from Scandinavian countries and other places from around Asia, Japan, South Korean...all very pleasant. Dined with several groups of Europeans all stating they would certainly come back to Thailand.

 

A little snap shot I know, but from the small sample i talked with most would return.

 

 

A baiting post and a reply leading to flaming has been removed

15 hours ago, balo said:

I'm in Norway and just paid 500 baht for a beer. The food is good but who wants to eat out when a normal dish is minimum 400 baht +++ . So I miss Pattaya already. 

At least you don't need to worry about salmonella in Norway.

2 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

At least you don't need to worry about salmonella in Norway.

Unless on one of their cruises.

On 7/17/2019 at 9:30 AM, bert bloggs said:

Sukhumvit was jock a block ,so some people were driving here yesterday afternoon .gave up trying to get to Makro n pattaya ,so went down railway rd to the one in s pattaya .

Spot on. However, Pattaya is no longer for the Farang. It is now for the Thais. How they will manage that without our money is beyond me, but as you said... every time I go there I get stuck in traffic. So, there must be some people still going there!

Things must be really bad in Thailand right now. I have NEVER seeing so many girls contacting me and asking for money. I will send them...a hug.

I was in Pattaya last year where I lost more of my money on the exchange than I could imagine and was eaten alive by bed begs in a low budget hotel at which I usually stay, which has now been taken over by, you guessed it, east Indians.  I cancelled my trip to Patts this year.

I'm sure street vendors keep good financial records from year to year, and can accurate calculate percentages of decline year-over-year.