snoop1130 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Hammond attacks 'terrifying' views of Brexiteer Rees-Mogg FILE PHOTO: British Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond walks near the Parliament grounds in London, Britain June 20, 2019. REUTERS/Henry Nicholls LONDON (Reuters) - British finance minister Philip Hammond said on Wednesday it was “terrifying” that leading Brexit advocate Jacob Rees-Mogg, who could have a role in the next government, thought Britain could be better off by leaving the EU without an exit deal. Hammond, who does not intend to continue as finance minister when a new prime minister is named next week, was responding to criticism from Rees-Mogg - the latest turn in a long-running row that typifies Brexit divisions in the ruling Conservative Party. Hammond has warned that a no-deal exit from the EU could badly damage the British economy. Rees-Mogg, who has been linked with a role in government if fellow Brexiteer Boris Johnson becomes prime minister, argues Britain could be better off. “Happy to debate scale of negative impact of No Deal on the economy - but terrifying that someone this close to a potential future government can think we’d actually be better off by adding barriers to access to our largest market,” Hammond said on Twitter. Rees-Mogg had written in the Daily Telegraph that Hammond’s views were “pure silliness” and said the economic model used to create his warning relied on assumptions that “range from the absurd to the merely dubious.” The spat underlines the huge task that Prime Minister Theresa May’s successor will face to hold together a party that is still deeply split along the “Remain” and “Leave” battle lines drawn during the 2016 Brexit referendum. -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-17 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 the article states JRM as saying Britian COULD be better off,sorry bur "could" is just not good enough,i "could " put all my assets on the 15.10 at haydock and i "could" win and be better off,sums brexit up in a nutshell even the most ardent brexiteers can only cum up with it "could be better" these days,3 years ago we WERE going to be better off,pathetic people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I guess that JRM has already a few speculation plans to be activated in case of no deal Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, candide said: I guess that JRM has already a few speculation plans to be activated in case of no deal Brexit. Southern Ireland , soon too boom and have a new airport, JRM international .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, elliss said: Southern Ireland , soon too boom and have a new airport, JRM international .. built next to Trumps golf coarse,he did promise the UK brexiteers a phenomenal deal after all.Maybe he can build another coarse in the UK on some NHS land that he has his orange eyes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Hammond could be terrified that Jacob Rees Mogg is already lined up for the Chancellor job. About time he moved up from the back benches and he’d probably do a better job of it. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Loiner said: Hammond could be terrified that Jacob Rees Mogg is already lined up for the Chancellor job. About time he moved up from the back benches and he’d probably do a better job of it. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect the shortest chancellor in history,but he does have a habit of shorting things like many other brexiteers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Hammond the ultimate Europhile who has done his best from the cabinet to thwart the referendum result and keep the UK in the EU. Besides looking rather like Senator Palpatine from Star Wars and behaving like him, he certainly is a conniving, back stabber who I am looking forward to seeing, getting the boot from the cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twocatsmac Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Hammond fears brexit because if it ever occurs he will be found to have made zero preparations, a useless time waster and grandstander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, twocatsmac said: Hammond fears brexit because if it ever occurs he will be found to have made zero preparations, a useless time waster and grandstander. brexit isnt happening and has never been planned for,just watched the faces on TV of BJ and Gove on TV the morning of the result,they looked absolutely terrified ,IT WASNT MEANT TO HAPPEN,and it wont,BJ was in it for personal gain same same Gove,johnson was writing pro remain in the telegraph then pro leave,a total clown of a fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, bomber said: the article states JRM as saying Britian COULD be better off,sorry bur "could" is just not good enough,i "could " put all my assets on the 15.10 at haydock and i "could" win and be better off,sums brexit up in a nutshell even the most ardent brexiteers can only cum up with it "could be better" these days,3 years ago we WERE going to be better off,pathetic people And the article says "Hammond has warned that a no-deal exit from the EU could badly damage the British economy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, bomber said: brexit isnt happening and has never been planned for,just watched the faces on TV of BJ and Gove on TV the morning of the result,they looked absolutely terrified ,IT WASNT MEANT TO HAPPEN,and it wont,BJ was in it for personal gain same same Gove,johnson was writing pro remain in the telegraph then pro leave,a total clown of a fella For once we're in agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twocatsmac Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, bomber said: brexit isnt happening and has never been planned for,just watched the faces on TV of BJ and Gove on TV the morning of the result,they looked absolutely terrified ,IT WASNT MEANT TO HAPPEN,and it wont,BJ was in it for personal gain same same Gove,johnson was writing pro remain in the telegraph then pro leave,a total clown of a fella I don’t doubt many MPs’ are clowns but the U.K. not just the Tory party, needs to find the best of the clowns to lead and move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Hamond will be on the back benches with his mate Grieve in a fortnight, maybe they should all declare their own financial interests in the seriously flawed EU Lets have a leader ballot with only one name on the ticket - that is German French democracy right there - we have been invaded over the last 40 years - slowly the very powerful United Kingdom has been dismantled by France and Germany - how that was ever allowed is a travesty Yes we will buy your cars - but you better build them in the UK The nice thing about trade with the EU is it is very one sided - we buy a hell of a lot more than they buy from us.………….you want to test it - go right ahead Farmers in the UK can start supplying the home market which we couldn't do before - our fishing ports and (soon to be) fleets can fish our own waters and keep our own fish and sell into the local market yes it might take time but we will survive and prosper Time for a leader in the UK that can actually say "NO" to these unelected ass holes in Brussels - they really need to figure out where they are at - the UK is having no more of it, we are leaving, you are no longer dealing with a weak embarrassing remainer When we leave watch how France and Germany decide to segregate themselves from the rest - google "two speed Europe" yes they will drop the rest in the s h it when the UK leaves Our Corporation tax will drop to the same level as tiny Republic of Ireland - that is them shafted and serves them right for trying it on and disrespecting the British people - you already have the use of our UK hospitals (NHS) for free - you can come and go as you please - claim benefits - work - use our far superior facilities for free - nothing to do with the EU - it has always been that way, keep going and you might find some changes - and lets be clear, the ROI has one NHS class hospital and it is in Dublin- the rest of the country is in the dark ages and it is not free - oh yes the NHS to Irish citizens is free - go figure...…………... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Hamond will be on the back benches with his mate Grieve in a fortnight, maybe they should all declare their own financial interests in the seriously flawed EU Lets have a leader ballot with only one name on the ticket - that is German French democracy right there - we have been invaded over the last 40 years - slowly the very powerful United Kingdom has been dismantled by France and Germany - how that was ever allowed is a travesty Yes we will buy your cars - but you better build them in the UK The nice thing about trade with the EU is it is very one sided - we buy a hell of a lot more than they buy from us.………….you want to test it - go right ahead Farmers in the UK can start supplying the home market which we couldn't do before - our fishing ports and (soon to be) fleets can fish our own waters and keep our own fish and sell into the local market yes it might take time but we will survive and prosper Time for a leader in the UK that can actually say "NO" to these unelected ass holes in Brussels - they really need to figure out where they are at - the UK is having no more of it, we are leaving, you are no longer dealing with a weak embarrassing remainer When we leave watch how France and Germany decide to segregate themselves from the rest - google "two speed Europe" yes they will drop the rest in the s h it when the UK leav Our Corporation tax will drop to the same level as tiny Republic of Ireland - that is them shafted and serves them right for trying it on and disrespecting the British people - you already have the use of our UK hospitals (NHS) for free - you can come and go as you please - claim benefits - work - use our far superior facilities for free - nothing to do with the EU - it has always been that way, keep going and you might find some changes - and lets be clear, the ROI has one NHS class hospital and it is in Dublin- the rest of the country is in the dark ages and it is not free - oh yes the NHS is free - go figure Lets not forget how the EU started - it was a trade pact between 5 EU countries - that is not what it is now - it is a power grabbing Empire that wants and army - we have seen this before in Europe and it is happening again right before our eyes with Germany at the helm and France the supporting act - is the UK a supporting act - nope, we just want to trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, bomber said: the shortest chancellor in history,but he does have a habit of shorting things like many other brexiteers. He's rather tall actually, Old Boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 hours ago, bomber said: brexit isnt happening and has never been planned for,just watched the faces on TV of BJ and Gove on TV the morning of the result,they looked absolutely terrified ,IT WASNT MEANT TO HAPPEN,and it wont,BJ was in it for personal gain same same Gove,johnson was writing pro remain in the telegraph then pro leave,a total clown of a fella Brexit has been our destiny ever since we joined this club of clots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, smedly said: Hamond will be on the back benches with his mate Grieve in a fortnight, maybe they should all declare their own financial interests in the seriously flawed EU Lets have a leader ballot with only one name on the ticket - that is German French democracy right there - we have been invaded over the last 40 years - slowly the very powerful United Kingdom has been dismantled by France and Germany - how that was ever allowed is a travesty Yes we will buy your cars - but you better build them in the UK The nice thing about trade with the EU is it is very one sided - we buy a hell of a lot more than they buy from us.………….you want to test it - go right ahead Farmers in the UK can start supplying the home market which we couldn't do before - our fishing ports and (soon to be) fleets can fish our own waters and keep our own fish and sell into the local market yes it might take time but we will survive and prosper Time for a leader in the UK that can actually say "NO" to these unelected ass holes in Brussels - they really need to figure out where they are at - the UK is having no more of it, we are leaving, you are no longer dealing with a weak embarrassing remainer When we leave watch how France and Germany decide to segregate themselves from the rest - google "two speed Europe" yes they will drop the rest in the s h it when the UK leaves Our Corporation tax will drop to the same level as tiny Republic of Ireland - that is them shafted and serves them right for trying it on and disrespecting the British people - you already have the use of our UK hospitals (NHS) for free - you can come and go as you please - claim benefits - work - use our far superior facilities for free - nothing to do with the EU - it has always been that way, keep going and you might find some changes - and lets be clear, the ROI has one NHS class hospital and it is in Dublin- the rest of the country is in the dark ages and it is not free - oh yes the NHS to Irish citizens is free - go figure...…………... Bravo Smedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 hours ago, bomber said: built next to Trumps golf coarse,he did promise the UK brexiteers a phenomenal deal after all.Maybe he can build another coarse in the UK on some NHS land that he has his orange eyes on. "course" ! .... and remoaners say that Brexiteers are uneducated! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 To be fair, Rees-Mogg has skin in the game. He moved his Hedge Fund to Dublin and betting against the UK economy in Brexit. He needs Brexit to make money on his hedge bets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jip99 said: "course" ! .... and remoaners say that Brexiteers are uneducated! ???? The evidence on this board is of Brexiteers frequently making the claim without a Remainer ever having made such an accusation anywhere in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Hammond is one of the more odious Remainers. Constantly talking down the UK's chances as he peddles a particularly pessimistic brand of fear. Thankfully we only have to endure another week of him and then Johnson can kick him out of the cabinet with the rest of May's Remain supporting clan. I'd fully support Rees Mogg in the cabinet. He's a very intelligent individual, mainly disliked because he is from a privileged background and therefore a victim of reverse snobbery. He is a very successful businessman in his own right, not simply a career politician that wouldn't have a clue how to run a business like so many in Parliament. Boris Johnson has many qualities but attention to detail is not one of them, he needs people like JRM in his team. C'Mon Moggy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: To be fair, Rees-Mogg has skin in the game. He moved his Hedge Fund to Dublin and betting against the UK economy in Brexit. He needs Brexit to make money on his hedge bets. It's called Fund Diversification. The fact you are unaware of this speaks volumes. Let me dumb it down for you a bit, it is foolish to put all your eggs in one basket and Rees Mogg is no fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Hammond is one of the more odious Remainers. Constantly talking down the UK's chances as he peddles a particularly pessimistic brand of fear. Thankfully we only have to endure another week of him and then Johnson can kick him out of the cabinet with the rest of May's Remain supporting clan. I'd fully support Rees Mogg in the cabinet. He's a very intelligent individual, mainly disliked because he is from a privileged background and therefore a victim of reverse snobbery. He is a very successful businessman in his own right, not simply a career politician that wouldn't have a clue how to run a business like so many in Parliament. Boris Johnson has many qualities but attention to detail is not one of them, he needs people like JRM in his team. C'Mon Moggy!! Rees-Mogg ‘attention to detail’. You’re having a laugh. Here is waffling and revealing his loose grip on facts. https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obrien-destroys-jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-vote/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: It's called Fund Diversification. The fact you are unaware of this speaks volumes. Let me dumb it down for you a bit, it is foolish to put all your eggs in one basket and Rees Mogg is no fool. I don’t need you financial advice, but thank you for accepting my point that Rees-Mogg is betting against the UK. He’s not simply ‘diversifying, he’s placing a bet and then meddling in the way the chips fall. Brexiteers being suckered think he’s on their side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnapat Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Philip Hammond is just sbout the only sane voice left in a totally dysfunctional cabinet and has remained true to his opinions, unlike most of the rest who are too busy toadying up to Johnson in the upcoming cabinet reshuffle. He knows he'll be replaced but carries on the good fight against a no deal Brexit and the people behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I don’t need you financial advice, but thank you for accepting my point that Rees-Mogg is betting against the UK. He’s not simply ‘diversifying, he’s placing a bet and then meddling in the way the chips fall. Brexiteers being suckered think he’s on their side. Rees Mogg is a partner in a fund management company (he stepped down as Chief Exec when he became an MP). You think that company should only be allowed to invest in UK companies? He has a duty to his clients and partners to make sound investment decisions which means diversification. There are easier ways for him to make money than to bet against the UK and then destroy it. I think your tin foil hat needs adjusting if you think Rees Mogg is involved in some secret plot to make a few quid by destroying his country of birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 45 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Rees-Mogg ‘attention to detail’. You’re having a laugh. Here is waffling and revealing his loose grip on facts. https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obrien-destroys-jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-vote/ He hardly destroyed him. O'Brien got many things wrong during the interview and when Rees Mogg began to point out his mistakes O'Brien cut him off and spoke over the top of him as he always does when presented with facts. O'Brien is the worst type of Remainer. Condescending, rude, patronizing and very often wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I don’t need you financial advice, but thank you for accepting my point that Rees-Mogg is betting against the UK. He’s not simply ‘diversifying, he’s placing a bet and then meddling in the way the chips fall. Brexiteers being suckered think he’s on their side. In one way he's already brought Britain back to the pre EU days, when the upper class twit bought a commission and ineptly led thousands of men into a war that he benefitted from, and they definitely didn't. Caring only for his own glory and gains. All the while playing the patriotism jingle, firing up enough of the rabble to believe that being fed into a mincing machine is so good for them that they forcibly drag anyone who doesn't believe along with them. I can imagine him, paraphrasing Lloyd-George, speaking to Boris saying "if people really knew, Brexit would be stopped tomorrow. But, of course they don't know, and can't know". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 58 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Hammond is one of the more odious Remainers. Constantly talking down the UK's chances as he peddles a particularly pessimistic brand of fear. Thankfully we only have to endure another week of him and then Johnson can kick him out of the cabinet with the rest of May's Remain supporting clan. I'd fully support Rees Mogg in the cabinet. He's a very intelligent individual, mainly disliked because he is from a privileged background and therefore a victim of reverse snobbery. He is a very successful businessman in his own right, not simply a career politician that wouldn't have a clue how to run a business like so many in Parliament. Boris Johnson has many qualities but attention to detail is not one of them, he needs people like JRM in his team. C'Mon Moggy!! Now that you've mentioned him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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