Why are Thai's so rude to farangs?

[Don Chance]

Every day at 12 noon there is knock on the door and they say "you stay another night?"  But there is hardly anyone here. Then when i come down it is "700 baht" Everyday pay.  In Nepal in India i can stay weeks and not pay until i leave. Here they are so paranoid about some farang running off without paying. How often does this actually happen?  It some Thai myth.

 

Also when i asked about a discount for 1 week or even 1 month the manager got really offended and told me to check the hotel next store. How rude!  Again managers in Nepal or India would never act like this they would immediately make a deal, they love making deals. What is with all the hostility with Thai's?

I rented a peddle bike and came back after a couple of hours, the same manager came up and started scrutinizing the bike like Sherlock Holmes as if i smashed it up in the short time. They really know how to make you feel like you are just a number. It is amazing they do so well with tourism. Is this some sort of reverse psychology?

[johng]

7 minutes ago, Don Chance said:

In Nepal in India i can stay weeks

 

7 minutes ago, Don Chance said:

told me to check the hotel next store. How rude!  Again managers in Nepal or India would never act like this

Would you happen "per chance" to be from India ?? ...if yes then sadly you have your answer already.

[FritsSikkink]

They are rude because they want to get paid? Checking a bike is normal practice. You better stay in Nepal then. 

[steven100]

10 minutes ago, Don Chance said:

i asked about a discount for 1 week or even 1 month the manager got really offended and told me to check the hotel next store.

He's telling you … no discounts.

11 minutes ago, Don Chance said:

In Nepal in India i can stay weeks and not pay until i leave

In Thailand this doesn't apply, nor in Australia, Malaysia or most other countries.

12 minutes ago, Don Chance said:

paranoid about some farang running off without paying.

Yes, maybe he's been ripped off too many times. And it happens a lot in other countries also.

[JHolmesJr]

If you dont want to get offended, pay them for the entire duration of your stay up front and get

a receipt as proof. I do that often as I dont like to be bothered checking bills upon checkout.

As I never use minibar or room service/laundry, I have no other expenses apart from room tariff.

 

When renting a bike, take out ur phone and photograph every inch while they are

watching....this sends them a strong signal that you are well aware of any tricks that may be played

later.

 

Lastly, dont talk to them any more than absolutely necessary....they are very insular people

who dont really care about anything outside of Thailand.

 

 

Edited July 27, 2019 by JHolmesJr

[Puchaiyank]

I have been here for years and never once have I witnessed a Thai being rude to a European, American or Australian...

 

Are you one of these?   ????

[ThreeEyedRaven]

Fair enough questions Don, but given the level of mistrust you keep running into, have you stopped to consider that maybe it could simply be that you might look like a really shady character? 

[OneMoreFarang]

What would you say if this does not happen to most people? But it seems it happens to you.

The reason might be: YOU

[Opl]

As you mention, " there is hardly anyone here", so 700 TB per day is not a huge income . the owners must be in need of cash.

I would not pay for the total lenght of stay in advance, because it would be uneasy to get refund if I leave the place earlier.

in hotels that require advance booking because of a high occupancy rate I usually pay for the coming week ahead - room only - or room + motorbike ( because I generally negociate the package) - extras are paid when checking out.

If you do not like the way you are treated by the staff or the owner, why don't you try elsewhere? 

Edited July 27, 2019 by Opl

[spidermike007]

Seems most of the posters on here disagree with you. I do not encounter many Thai people who are rude. I find most to be pleasant, cheerful, and easy to deal with. As long as you are not trying to get a refund, LOL. Sure, this manager you refer to sounds like a bit of a pig. And alot of the immigration officers are cold, and not particularly helpful. Not all. But most. But most Thais are pretty cool, in my opinion. And the further you get away from the congested tourist zones in CM, Pattaya, Phuket and Samui, the nicer people get. Some are just jaded, and sick of working with tourists. 

 

Whenever I am out in the boonies, or in the smaller towns, I love the people here! 

[geoffbezoz]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

Seems most of the posters on here disagree with you. I do not encounter many Thai people who are rude. I find most to be pleasant, cheerful, and easy to deal with. As long as you are not trying to get a refund, LOL. Sure, this manager you refer to sounds like a bit of a pig. And alot of the immigration officers are cold, and not particularly helpful. Not all. But most. But most Thais are pretty cool, in my opinion. And the further you get away from the congested tourist zones in CM, Pattaya, Phuket and Samui, the nicer people get. Some are just jaded, and sick of working with tourists. 

 

Whenever I am out in the boonies, or in the smaller towns, I love the people here! 

Well I must agree with you and living out in the sticks then you also get to understand, as I am sure you have already, that the local Thais also get very annoyed at the rudeness shown to them by their own brethren in the major cosmopolitan areas too.

[KiChakayan]

15 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

I have been here for years and never once have I witnessed a Thai being rude to a European, American or Australian...

 

Are you one of these?   ????

Varies a lot if you ask me, when I take of my pants gogo girls always say: "big!", my wife, she giggles..

[blackcab]

Moved to the Farang Pub.

[Yinn]

Maybe because you smell bad, or speak impolite or look ugly.

Do you take sex worker to room?

 

i think you should find another country for holiday.

 

Good luck.

[DavCurtis]

Checking if you will be staying one more night is normal with hotels in the land of smiles. They always call the room's phone line to confirm. Not strange to me. Probably because I don't have the India hotel experience. 

[sanemax]

I can understand some Thais who deal with tourists being rude , because there are some rather abrupt, rude tourists who think that Thais are "easy" because they are (usually) polite and the tourists then get a deluded sense of grandeur 

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, Don Chance said:

Every day at 12 noon there is knock on the door and they say "you stay another night?

Some people seem to think its OK to check-out a 7-30 PM and not have to pay any extra

[bkk6060]

I think there is a difference between being rude and conducting business in a matter of fact way.

Nothing OP describes seems rude to me.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, bkk6060 said:

I think there is a difference between being rude and conducting business in a matter of fact way.

Nothing OP describes seems rude to me.

Problem is what is rude to one person may not be rude to the next.

 

Presuming the OP is from India or Nepal, I found the people there difficult to deal with, even rude sometimes. OP seems to feel the other way.

[madmen]

Just a blatant Thai bash. Move along folks nothing to see here

[uhuh]

A staff at a convenience store in Phuket once told me "<deleted> off" after I had bought something.

I did find this rude, even Thai apologists may disagree.

 

At the same shop in Chaam, the cashier told every Thai customer in front of me "xx baht, kaa".

When it was my part, she said in Thai "xx baht".

That's rude.

 

Actually,  if you know Thai you will see that many (by far not all) staf in the service sector are rude to farang and switch to polite behavior as soon as the customer is Thai. 

 

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, uhuh said:

A staff at a convenience store in Phuket once told me "<deleted> off" after I had bought something.

I did find this rude, even Thai apologists may disagree.

 

Is there any reason why they spoke to you like that ?

I suspect that there is and it may well have been justified

[uhuh]

Just now, sanemax said:

Is there any reason why they spoke to you like that ?

I suspect that there is and it may well have been justified

I thought this answer would come from the Thai apologists. 

There is no reason imaginable that justifies staff at a convenience store to see a customer off with the words "(4letters beginning with f) off".

Maybe it's different where you come from. 

 

And even if it were justified,  it would still be rude. 

 

Actually, to answer your question,  no,  there was no reason,  it came out of the blue and i really could not figure out what was the problem. 

Edited July 27, 2019 by uhuh

[stevenl]

19 minutes ago, uhuh said:

A staff at a convenience store in Phuket once told me "<deleted> off" after I had bought something.

I did find this rude, even Thai apologists may disagree.

 

At the same shop in Chaam, the cashier told every Thai customer in front of me "xx baht, kaa".

When it was my part, she said in Thai "xx baht".

That's rude.

 

Actually,  if you know Thai you will see that many (by far not all) staf in the service sector are rude to farang and switch to polite behavior as soon as the customer is Thai. 

 

Strange, I never had those experiences.

 

BTW, your immediate defensive attitude about Thai apologists does not do you any good.

[worgeordie]

I think it's more the other way around.

regards Worgeordie

[uhuh]

Just now, stevenl said:

Strange, I never had those experiences.

 

BTW, your immediate defensive attitude about Thai apologists does not do you any good.

The "... off" was a one time experience.

The missing "kaa" is not so rare. 

[ilms]

Your post is titled, "Why are Thai's so rude to farangs?" Thai is plural but yet you mention the example of only one Thai person. I point that out only because it is easy (but usually completely erroneous) to generalize about all those from a certain group based on the behavior of one or few of their number. 

 

The hotel manager may be rude or he may be just going about his job as he sees fit. It would be great if everybody we met were friendly and accommodating, but that's just not possible.

 

In my years here, most Thais I've dealt with have been friendly and polite. A much smaller number have also come across as gruff, cold or even rude. Same as in India when I was there. Same as in every country I've been in-including my own.

 

Anyway, keep trying with other Thai people.  Be subtle and soft-spoken when asking for things (some foreigners come off as crass and demanding to Thais, which puts them off). Learn a little Thai and use it with them. I hope you have some good experiences with people here too. They're out there.

[mngmn]

30 minutes ago, uhuh said:

A staff at a convenience store in Phuket once told me "<deleted> off" after I had bought something.

I did find this rude, even Thai apologists may disagree.

 

At the same shop in Chaam, the cashier told every Thai customer in front of me "xx baht, kaa".

When it was my part, she said in Thai "xx baht". 

That's rude.

 

Actually,  if you know Thai you will see that many (by far not all) staf in the service sector are rude to farang and switch to polite behavior as soon as the customer is Thai. 

 

Not to mention serving Thais first and even letting them push in front of you.

[LivinLOS]

Dont quite understand why so many are slating the OP. 

Down south I find his complaint bang on.. This kind of resentment and rudeness was a large part of why I left Phuket and its kind of pervasive IMO. 

Familiarity breed contempt, and the Thais in the tourist industry there are now familiar enough with farangs for this to have evolved. Combined with large chip on the shoulder about perceived wealth, and a feeling the world owes them a living (esp tuk tuks, beach sunchair folks etc) and the OPs complaint doesn't sound like its so shocking to get the replies it has. 

[johng]

9 minutes ago, mngmn said:

Not to mention serving Thais first and even letting them push in front of you.

I had that happen sometimes but nearly as many times the cashier told the Thai to wait and served me first.