Sterling slumps on 'no-deal Brexit' worries; stocks dip

[bomber]

Just now, baboon said:

Sheesh, why is it so difficult for some to simply offer the gentleman a few kind words and leave it at that? The last thing the chap needs is a critical appraisal of his life. (Not having a go at you).

laughing man telling him to find a job in thailand was as you well know a thickheaded thing to say,but he is a brexiteer.

[baboon]

13 minutes ago, bomber said:

laughing man telling him to find a job in thailand was as you well know a thickheaded thing to say,but he is a brexiteer.

I am not going there. It isn't appropriate in the case of jimballard to be using his plight to score political points, whether one is 'Leave' or 'Remain'.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, bomber said:

the break up of the UK will stop brexit,ive said it for a long time now,it gets BJ out of jail and probably re elected at the next GE

Aha! Bomber finally has a point! This is a possibility that is not discussed AFAIK.

[kingdong]

On 7/30/2019 at 12:16 PM, jimballard said:

Ok. So you want to know my personal circumstances...

I worked and saved hard for 30+ year and retired to Thailand on a personal pension at the age of 52.  I had several million THB in cash and worked out I would be ok with pound goiing down to low 40's. 

When I left UK I hadn't heard of Boris or reese-Mogg and nobody was talking about leaving EU. I thought all risk was going to be on the Thai side.

I am just a HGV mechanic and put my hand up to being too stupid to guess GB was going to eat itself up into a banana republic. When you read online newspapers its like everyone has gone completely mad. Like those scifi movies where there is space colony with a virus and they all start killing each other. Nobody knows what they want or what to do. They are guys writing about hating germany and bringing up WW2 (which my dad fought in) comments about expats beng traitors and people should stay in UK for a holiday and not eat French cheese LOL.  Reese-mogg wanting to use imperial measurement, well I still have some Whitworth spanners he can have because I havent used them for 30 year. These guys were smoking too much wacky baccy at Oxford and addled their brains.

I got money problems because second daughter was born wih physical disability. Government hodpital couldnt help much so we went to Bangkok. 2x private operation and therapy more than 1 million baht. Then I had health problem at 59 but insurance didn't cover and cost me 400k. Down to 40 to the pound we are ok until OAP kicks in but 37 is too low.

What work can I do in Thailand? No degree so I can't teach. I could work on cars and trucks but how to get permit?

Going back to UK seems only option but cannot take family because of UK immigration rules. Now I read they have put a Indian woman Patel in chargevof UK immigration!! What will happen there?

say again feel sorry about your circumstances,good luck with your move back to uk,when looking for a job it will probably be zero hour contract,in the "gig" economy or "self employed"[a scam to get round minimum wage and workers rights,you will also encounter the "points"system if you are applying for state housing,and as a single,able bodied man you,ll be lower than a snakes belly,for above working conditions to succeed,it needs a large workforce,theres over 2 million eu citizens living in uk-what do,es that tell you about conditions in their own eu countries? i live in britain and like yourself don,t find it funny.

[kingdong]

On 7/30/2019 at 4:39 PM, bristolboy said:

So exactly what did you do to liberate Europe from the Nazis? Time travel much?

stupid thing to say,if you,d read the post you,d have seen i stated britain not myself,

[bomber]

14 minutes ago, kingdong said:

say again feel sorry about your circumstances,good luck with your move back to uk,when looking for a job it will probably be zero hour contract,in the "gig" economy or "self employed"[a scam to get round minimum wage and workers rights,you will also encounter the "points"system if you are applying for state housing,and as a single,able bodied man you,ll be lower than a snakes belly,for above working conditions to succeed,it needs a large workforce,theres over 2 million eu citizens living in uk-what do,es that tell you about conditions in their own eu countries? i live in britain and like yourself don,t find it funny.

 

It tells you there are too many Brits claiming benefits when they should be working,we should also see more returning from the EU due to the pounds collapse,they will need housing and medical attention when needed,these things usually equal out but The brexiteer won't have it.

[baboon]

32 minutes ago, kingdong said:

say again feel sorry about your circumstances,good luck with your move back to uk,when looking for a job it will probably be zero hour contract,in the "gig" economy or "self employed"[a scam to get round minimum wage and workers rights,you will also encounter the "points"system if you are applying for state housing,and as a single,able bodied man you,ll be lower than a snakes belly,for above working conditions to succeed,it needs a large workforce,theres over 2 million eu citizens living in uk-what do,es that tell you about conditions in their own eu countries? i live in britain and like yourself don,t find it funny.

I am sure the chap really needs to hear that. Jesus, can't you find it within yourself for to offer him a few positive words under his distressing circumstances?

[kingdong]

11 minutes ago, bomber said:

 

It tells you there are too many Brits claiming benefits when they should be working,we should also see more returning from the EU due to the pounds collapse,they will need housing and medical attention when needed,these things usually equal out but The brexiteer won't have it.

while i agree with your first point,lets take a large employer as a case in point=uber despite being ordered by a british court that their drivers are actually employees,entitled to minimum wage,holidays,sick pay etc,etc they,re now dragging it out by going to a higher court,this is a company that dosen,t pay a penny tax in the uk,who state they,re  "a technology company" not a taxi firm and whose employees are recieving state subsidys in the form  of tax and rent credits,the employees are aprox 90%migrant workers,so lets get out of europe,stop the freedom of movement,and make companies like uber obey the law,and pay their tax in britain.also god help these brits returning to the uk  wanting state housing and medical attention we,re far too overcrowded as  it is.

[bomber]

5 minutes ago, kingdong said:

while i agree with your first point,lets take a large employer as a case in point=uber despite being ordered by a british court that their drivers are actually employees,entitled to minimum wage,holidays,sick pay etc,etc they,re now dragging it out by going to a higher court,this is a company that dosen,t pay a penny tax in the uk,who state they,re  "a technology company" not a taxi firm and whose employees are recieving state subsidys in the form  of tax and rent credits,the employees are aprox 90%migrant workers,so lets get out of europe,stop the freedom of movement,and make companies like uber obey the law,and pay their tax in britain.also god help these brits returning to the uk  wanting state housing and medical attention we,re far too overcrowded as  it is.

I know for a fact Uber give backhanders out to UK councils,along with many in other nations,not an EU issue it's up to local UK councils not to pay them,

[baboon]

7 minutes ago, kingdong said:

while i agree with your first point,lets take a large employer as a case in point=uber despite being ordered by a british court that their drivers are actually employees,entitled to minimum wage,holidays,sick pay etc,etc they,re now dragging it out by going to a higher court,this is a company that dosen,t pay a penny tax in the uk,who state they,re  "a technology company" not a taxi firm and whose employees are recieving state subsidys in the form  of tax and rent credits,the employees are aprox 90%migrant workers,so lets get out of europe,stop the freedom of movement,and make companies like uber obey the law,and pay their tax in britain.also god help these brits returning to the uk  wanting state housing and medical attention we,re far too overcrowded as  it is.

It won't happen. It isn't the EU but the Conservative Party who introduced the gig economy. Who has privatised everything. Who has conserved nothing. Who called the Brexit referendum and has overseen the collapse of the Pound. It isn't The EU, it is them.

If you want to shout 'But Corbyn', fine. But our woes are down to us not the EU.

[kingdong]

3 minutes ago, bomber said:

I know for a fact Uber give backhanders out to UK councils,along with many in other nations,not an EU issue it's up to local UK councils not to pay them,

cannot make head nor tail of your post,what exactly do,es----"its up to uk councils not to pay them"pay them what?also the fact they,re paying their tax in another eu country does make it an "eu issue"lets get out and if a company wants to start a buisness in the uk then they must pay their tax  in the uk,lets go back to making our own rules and laws for britains benefit not the eu

[kingdong]

28 minutes ago, baboon said:

I am sure the chap really needs to hear that. Jesus, can't you find it within yourself for to offer him a few positive words under his distressing circumstances?

what do you want me to tell him?

[kingdong]

12 minutes ago, baboon said:

It won't happen. It isn't the EU but the Conservative Party who introduced the gig economy. Who has privatised everything. Who has conserved nothing. Who called the Brexit referendum and has overseen the collapse of the Pound. It isn't The EU, it is them.

If you want to shout 'But Corbyn', fine. But our woes are down to us not the EU.

when and how did the conservative party "introduce the gig economy"?

[bomber]

8 minutes ago, kingdong said:

cannot make head nor tail of your post,what exactly do,es----"its up to uk councils not to pay them"pay them what?also the fact they,re paying their tax in another eu country does make it an "eu issue"lets get out and if a company wants to start a buisness in the uk then they must pay their tax  in the uk,lets go back to making our own rules and laws for britains benefit not the eu

UK councils hand over brown envolopes full of cash to Uber,if you don't understand god help you

[kingdong]

14 minutes ago, baboon said:

It won't happen. It isn't the EU but the Conservative Party who introduced the gig economy. Who has privatised everything. Who has conserved nothing. Who called the Brexit referendum and has overseen the collapse of the Pound. It isn't The EU, it is them.

If you want to shout 'But Corbyn', fine. But our woes are down to us not the EU.

think you,ll find the collapse of the £ started in 2008 with the banking crisis, the then pm mr gordon[they,ll be no more boom and bust] brown introduced devaluation,sorry----quantitive easing [a lot more catchy] to bail out the banks at the countrys citizens expence,pity he didn,t let a few of them go under and bang up the spivs who worked in them that were at it.

[kingdong]

5 minutes ago, bomber said:

UK councils hand over brown envolopes full of cash to Uber,if you don't understand god help you

barman---i,ll have a pint of what bombers been drinking.

[sanemax]

41 minutes ago, bomber said:

UK councils hand over brown envolopes full of cash to Uber,if you don't understand god help you

"God" , I seem to need some help here .

[Loiner]

when and how did the conservative party "introduce the gig economy"?

I thought the EU saved everyone from that, with all its workers rights and what not? The EU didn’t prevent the gig economy, but contributed to it with an endless supply of cheap labour on zero hour contracts. It didn’t do anything to improve the UK pensions. Hey if the EU had protected those you Remainers might be able to endure a low pound without Remoaning so much.

[Loiner]

"God" , I seem to need some help here .

No it’s your co-respondent that needs the help. Sorry but it’s up to you to educate him, because none of the Remainers will. Even they all ignore him as a liability.

[Laughing Gravy]

6 hours ago, baboon said:

Sheesh, why is it so difficult for some to simply offer the gentleman a few kind words and leave it at that? The last thing the chap needs is a critical appraisal of his life. (Not having a go at you).

It is because the poster is known on these boards as the villiage  I..... He can't be nice or say anything positive.

[kingdong]

5 hours ago, sanemax said:

"God" , I seem to need some help here .

me too

[dick dasterdly]

17 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

 

The eu will have to negotiate any trade deals with the UK, but my point was why is this not already happening?  Why has this most important point been left as the very last item on the agenda?

 

Negotiating a 'settlement' in conjunction with a good trade deal I can understand, but why on earth would the UK agree to any 'settlement' without a trade deal?

 

15 hours ago, adammike said:

It's against the law for any member of the EU to make trade deals on their own so the UK can only negotiate trade deals with the EU when it's no longer a member and the EU can only negotiate when the UK is no longer a member.

 

 

 

10 hours ago, bristolboy said:

I think it can negotiate whenever it likes. It just can't enter into a trade deal until it is officially out of the EU.

Thank you for replying adammike, but I hope bristolboy is correct as the EU/UK not being able to negotiate a trade deal until after the UK has left is ridiculous IMO - wheareas an agreed trade deal not coming into effect until after the UK leaves makes sense.

[Nigel Garvie]

9 hours ago, kingdong said:

  On 7/30/2019 at 6:16 PM, jimballard said:

Ok. So you want to know my personal circumstances...

I worked and saved hard for 30+ year and retired to Thailand on a personal pension at the age of 52.  I had several million THB in cash and worked out I would be ok with pound goiing down to low 40's. 

When I left UK I hadn't heard of Boris or reese-Mogg and nobody was talking about leaving EU. I thought all risk was going to be on the Thai side.

I am just a HGV mechanic and put my hand up to being too stupid to guess GB was going to eat itself up into a banana republic. When you read online newspapers its like everyone has gone completely mad. Like those scifi movies where there is space colony with a virus and they all start killing each other. Nobody knows what they want or what to do. They are guys writing about hating germany and bringing up WW2 (which my dad fought in) comments about expats beng traitors and people should stay in UK for a holiday and not eat French cheese LOL.  Reese-mogg wanting to use imperial measurement, well I still have some Whitworth spanners he can have because I havent used them for 30 year. These guys were smoking too much wacky baccy at Oxford and addled their brains.

I got money problems because second daughter was born wih physical disability. Government hodpital couldnt help much so we went to Bangkok. 2x private operation and therapy more than 1 million baht. Then I had health problem at 59 but insurance didn't cover and cost me 400k. Down to 40 to the pound we are ok until OAP kicks in but 37 is too low.

What work can I do in Thailand? No degree so I can't teach. I could work on cars and trucks but how to get permit?

Going back to UK seems only option but cannot take family because of UK immigration rules. Now I read they have put a Indian woman Patel in chargevof UK immigration!! What will happen there?

Congratulations "GB has eaten itself up into a banana republic" couldn't have put it better.

I would say come to Scotland, (Forgive me if thats where you are from already) we welcome Immigrants. We have enough sense to realize that we have a serious demographic problem, too many old people, not enough people in the working/tax paying bracket. Not enough children either (Maybe they've been putting bromine in the whisky!!). 

Unfortunately our border is controlled by a bunch of crooked fann#ys in Westminster. 

Strangely there is currently a way round this which relies on the still civilised other EU countries. As a UK citizen you can work for a year in France (Say) and then you and your wife get EU residents permits. Then the UK by law, cannot refuse you both from moving to back to your home country. My son and his Japanese wife had just this problem, and they are both highly qualified, they currently work in the Netherlands, and regularly tell me what a basically decent society it is. Sadly the UK has gone to the dogs, we have the Tories and neo facists like Farage to thank for that. Brexit would probably put paid to this option BTW. I hope it works out OK for you. 

 

I work on a lathe, I use metric of course, I also have some Imperial tools (JRM is, now I think of it, exactly that - an Imperial tool). How we ever had an empire with the most stupid measurement system ever invented by man beats me. 5 1/2 yards to a rod pole or perch - were we mad! How do you compare 15/32nds to 31/64ths. (No please don't answer)

 

 Finally forget Patel, she's a traitor, caught doing unauthorized private deals with Netanyahu, himself a crook and a war criminal.

 

 

[Baerboxer]

On 7/30/2019 at 6:58 PM, BritManToo said:

You can take your children, father with 2 kids gets you a minimum income of 20,000 UK pounds.

If one of your kids has a medical disability, I would have thought she would be better off in the UK.

 

Or you could economise and learn to live on less here.

If you already own your own home, 15-20kbht/month should be achievable.

 

 

 

How very Tory of you.

 

Boris and the Brexiters screw up the UK and decimate it currency's value; whilst of course lining their own pockets with more and more and watching their wealth sky rocket.

 

And all you can say is - accept austerity and swallow it.

 

You are a good example of why politicians get away with so much <deleted>.

[Baerboxer]

34 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Congratulations "GB has eaten itself up into a banana republic" couldn't have put it better.

I would say come to Scotland, (Forgive me if thats where you are from already) we welcome Immigrants. We have enough sense to realize that we have a serious demographic problem, too many old people, not enough people in the working/tax paying bracket. Not enough children either (Maybe they've been putting bromine in the whisky!!). 

Unfortunately our border is controlled by a bunch of crooked fann#ys in Westminster. 

Strangely there is currently a way round this which relies on the still civilised other EU countries. As a UK citizen you can work for a year in France (Say) and then you and your wife get EU residents permits. Then the UK by law, cannot refuse you both from moving to back to your home country. My son and his Japanese wife had just this problem, and they are both highly qualified, they currently work in the Netherlands, and regularly tell me what a basically decent society it is. Sadly the UK has gone to the dogs, we have the Tories and neo facists like Farage to thank for that. Brexit would probably put paid to this option BTW. I hope it works out OK for you. 

 

I work on a lathe, I use metric of course, I also have some Imperial tools (JRM is, now I think of it, exactly that - an Imperial tool). How we ever had an empire with the most stupid measurement system ever invented by man beats me. 5 1/2 yards to a rod pole or perch - were we mad! How do you compare 15/32nds to 31/64ths. (No please don't answer)

 

 Finally forget Patel, she's a traitor, caught doing unauthorized private deals with Netanyahu, himself a crook and a war criminal.

 

 

 

Your absolutely right on all points.

 

It seems being a crook, breaking the rules, getting caught etc isn't a problem to a parliamentary career in spivvy Tory Britain - or the Labor party for that matter.

 

When I married my Thai wife, long time ago, I was working in Germany. Late on Netherlands. Both were more welcoming than the UK. Later on I worked in Scotland. She found Scotland much more welcoming, friendly and egalitarian than England. Something which if you've worked out of the UK for a long time you notice more prominently when returning.

 

 

[candide]

12 hours ago, kingdong said:

employees are aprox 90%migrant workers,so lets get out of europe,stop the freedom of movement

Another Brexiteers's fake news. Private hire drivers (such as User's drivers) originate mainly from oversees, in particular from the former British empire, so nothing to do with the EU. Additionally, a significant share of them is probably British.

https://medium.com/@NoahCarl/ethnic-distributions-of-taxi-drivers-and-phv-drivers-in-london-821d9f06b87

[kingdong]

4 hours ago, candide said:

Another Brexiteers's fake news. Private hire drivers (such as User's drivers) originate mainly from oversees, in particular from the former British empire, so nothing to do with the EU. Additionally, a significant share of them is probably British.

https://medium.com/@NoahCarl/ethnic-distributions-of-taxi-drivers-and-phv-drivers-in-london-821d9f06b87

read the whole post.don,t just take one small section and misconstrue it.

Edited August 1, 2019 by kingdong
computers mullahered

[candide]

3 hours ago, kingdong said:

read the whole post.don,t just take one small section and misconstrue it.

I don't particularly disagree with your general opinion on Uber.

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.