1 hour ago, robblok said:

Yes it could have been explained far better by the government as there are still people who think its about he rice program while it was not. It was all about the fraud inside the program and the top ministers being involved in it. 

 

Now its being touted as an unfair ruling about the rice program while it was not about the price guarantee (one that I think was bad too I don't believe in them not in these or in those of the current government)

Having just read an article on a MTIC VAT fraud case in the UK and seen the chart that Wikipedia use to explain it's basic workings, the attachment by Dutch State give a good simple explanation. So easy to replicate this to reflect the Rice Fraud

2 hours ago, losworld said:

How can you know if someone is genuine over a dinner?  Cause they served nice steaks?  No offense. 

You can say that about pretty much every encounter in life.  Just look back through your life experiences.  

And all it would take is a single phone call to London or wherever in europe Yingluck is to have her arrested and sent back but they won't do it hmmmm

You get less for murder, money more important than people 

10 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

48 years for fraud 

8 years or less for rape

Seems there is a disconnect in sentencing often

You seem to have overlooked the fact that the rice scheme scam financially raped 100 thousands of poor hard working farmer families so yes the verdict seems to be as connected as it should ....

Edited September 7, 20196 yr by ttrd

2 hours ago, riki said:

You get less for murder, money more important than people 

How long have you lived here?

8 hours ago, jesimps said:

Dutch guy who lived near me got 103 years for money laundering!

governments dont like you messing with them or there money, off topic but prince Andrew will walk all corrupt.

4 hours ago, monkfish said:

Exactly how much did they sell the rice for to incur such a big loss?
Can't find any details.

20 billion baht loss. 

 

time to fuel the jet, fill it with euros & dollars and buy some citizenship in another country

Edited September 7, 20196 yr by justin case

4 hours ago, Huayrat said:

And all it would take is a single phone call to London or wherever in europe Yingluck is to have her arrested and sent back but they won't do it hmmmm

Is it really that simple? Suggest you check how it works, perhaps not as easy as you surmise...

11 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

48 years for fraud 

8 years or less for rape

Seems there is a disconnect in sentencing often

 

financial crimes are dealt with very harshly as money is worshiped above all. a thai lawyer told me this knowing in many other countries it is the opposite. he did not really agree but that is the system

48 years in prison for doing what the current govt is doing

10 hours ago, bristolgeoff said:

the one above him i imagine the puppet to big brother,they have  escaped the goal term that will never happen (maybe).still  a mystery why she could get away so easy out of the country.i know some money was handed over,something went down then and the reason we will never know.

I believe they let her go and go quick as they didn't want any riots or an uprising, this would have suited their cause and give her freedom, if it is as I believe, she made the right decision, just saying.

Well its a good thing they didn't  get him for picking illegal wild mushrooms !

14 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

48 years for fraud 

8 years or less for rape

Seems there is a disconnect in sentencing often

Depends who you are.

48 years in prison for doing what the current govt is doing

Thats what i am thinking too.

What is the difference to the rice subsidy of the current military government?
I dont understand that.

15 hours ago, mania said:

So will the current crew get the same later? Because are they not also now fixing prices of rice & rubber?

Anybody orchestrating a military coup should be prosecuted 

16 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Well...that appeals verdict should lighten the courts appeal cases...go to court to appeal a judgement and get additional time...can't make this stuff up!...LOL (Land of Laughs)

I guess he got the extra 6 years for getting caught.

Interesting, I did a google search to see who sits on the Supreme Court in Thailand and I couldn't find a single name for any of the 'justices'.

 

Why is that? Is it a state secret?

Boonsong 48

Red Bull 0

I blame the referees. 

23 hours ago, Crisu said:

Thats what i am thinking too.

What is the difference to the rice subsidy of the current military government?
I dont understand that.

Maybe if you read all post you would have understood it. Guess you have not. (what was done was mentioned before)

 

This is not about the rice subsidy but about fake G2G deals that cost 20 billion baht. Basically they said they sold rice to China (that was allowed at a lower price). But the trades were fake and the rice was sold back into the system at the higher price a 20 billion fraud. 

 

Maybe now you understand and next time read better.

On 9/7/2019 at 8:37 AM, ChipButty said:

How come the sister only got 5 years?

 

 

 

 

 

 

She was convicted of negligence on the rice scheme not of being part of this G2G fraud. Oddly, when the G2G fraud came to light she sacked this guy. But didn't cancel the fake deals!

 

Her brother is closely connected to the rice trader named. This minister was a political protege of her older sister. Coincidences!

Just now, Baerboxer said:

 

She was convicted of negligence on the rice scheme not of being part of this G2G fraud. Oddly, when the G2G fraud came to light she sacked this guy. But didn't cancel the fake deals!

 

Her brother is closely connected to the rice trader named. This minister was a political protege of her older sister. Coincidences!

Yes she was either really dumb or involved in it all. Funny that there are still people posting that its about the subsidy while it was not. Guess a lot of people can't be bothered to even read the posts. Just want to vent.

Wonder what will happen when Thailand looses the illegal gold mine closure?  Will big P do time?

On 9/8/2019 at 9:21 PM, robblok said:

Yes she was either really dumb or involved in it all. Funny that there are still people posting that its about the subsidy while it was not. Guess a lot of people can't be bothered to even read the posts. Just want to vent.

And just wondering if big sister is:

 

- Still lying low abroad? and

- Is she sending birds nest soup baskets to the two fall guys who did her bidding and now in jail for 28 and 48 years? 

I have never before heard of any govt, including third-world despots, jailing a civil servant for the performance of his duty. Yes, maybe the rice-pledge idea was cracked but I believe it was conceived and implemented remarkably honestly. Govts & their employees, both elected & appointed, make mistakes, more frequently than not. So what?!?

 

Imagine a Thai govt programme without corruption. The rice-pledge is possibly unique in that regard.

 

How long will it be before the swindlers behind the submarine & fighter jet purchases, high-speed rail, environmentally disastrous major hydropower dams, the Kra Canal, and many, many other ill-conceived projects are banged up in the hoosegow? They'll be wearing quite different uniforms soon, we can hope. 

2 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I have never before heard of any govt, including third-world despots, jailing a civil servant for the performance of his duty. Yes, maybe the rice-pledge idea was cracked but I believe it was conceived and implemented remarkably honestly. Govts & their employees, both elected & appointed, make mistakes, more frequently than not. So what?!?

 

Imagine a Thai govt programme without corruption. The rice-pledge is possibly unique in that regard.

 

How long will it be before the swindlers behind the submarine & fighter jet purchases, high-speed rail, environmentally disastrous major hydropower dams, the Kra Canal, and many, many other ill-conceived projects are banged up in the hoosegow? They'll be wearing quite different uniforms soon, we can hope. 

Thailand is the only country I've ever heard of that creates new laws and then applies them retroactively, especially against political opponents. Corruption on steroids.

On 9/8/2019 at 9:19 PM, Baerboxer said:

 

She was convicted of negligence on the rice scheme not of being part of this G2G fraud. Oddly, when the G2G fraud came to light she sacked this guy. But didn't cancel the fake deals!

 

Her brother is closely connected to the rice trader named. This minister was a political protege of her older sister. Coincidences!

Thai officials jailed for negligence ....... where will it all end?

Yinglack only got 5 years

Political show trials by people doing the same and even giving hoards of cash away to people who do not really need it.