UK PM Johnson agrees 'great' new Brexit deal with EU

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UK PM Johnson agrees 'great' new Brexit deal with EU

 

Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson arrives for a meeting with NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg at Downing Street in London, Britain October 15, 2019. REUTERS/Henry Nicholls

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Thursday that Britain and the European Union had agreed a "great" new Brexit deal and urged lawmakers to approve it at the weekend.

 

"We've got a great new deal that takes back control," Johnson said in a tweet.

 

"Now parliament should get Brexit done on Saturday so we can move on to other priorities like the cost of living, the NHS, violent crime and our environment."

 

(Reporting by Kate Holton and Guy Faulconbridge; writing by Alistair Smout)

 

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-10-17

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[Jip99]

Now it starts.

 

”Super Saturday” should be interesting.

[Crossy]

So are we ever actually going to see this fantastic deal, let alone have any say on it?

 

Of course not.

 

[transam]

Well the UK exchange rate just went up......????

[stephenterry]

At long last. And tell the DUP to go and stuff themselves, if they freaking don't like it. IMO, enough Labour MPs and LD will support the deal for johnson to gain a majority. He's got Friday to gain their support possibly by stating it's just a first step to prosperity where everyone would benefit in the long run. A Unicorn world.

 

As for a 2nd referendum, forget it as the 'the people' have already demonstrated they know zilch about the cost of tea in China.  

[stephenterry]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Well the UK exchange rate just went up......????

Couldn't have been brexit that affected that, according to the leavers mantra. Probably due to the baht falling... 

[stephenterry]

17 minutes ago, Crossy said:

So are we ever actually going to see this fantastic deal, let alone have any say on it?

 

Of course not.

 

Thank heavens for that. I'd rather watch paint dry than suffer another prolonged debate. 

[sammieuk1]

Pound up to 39 a bottle of wine this Christmas on the cards until the next moron opens their trap????

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, sammieuk1 said:

Pound up to 39 a bottle of wine this Christmas on the cards until the next moron opens their trap????

I just got 39.2, appeared in my bank account from Transferwise in 15 minutes, but as SMART not FTT.

Edited October 17, 2019 by BritManToo

[samran]

Details to follow at a later point.

 

No doubt it will be more limp wristed the May’s deal, which he viciously opposes.

 

But hey, he’s PM now so that doesn’t really matter now. 

 

[Orac]

25 minutes ago, Crossy said:

So are we ever actually going to see this fantastic deal, let alone have any say on it?

 

Of course not.

 

 

It is up on EU website but struggling to get into it - guess it is rather popular at the moment!

 

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_19_6120

[stephenterry]

Just now, BritManToo said:

I just got 39.2, appeared in my bank account from Transferwise in 15 minutes, but as SMART not FTT.

Hopefully it will reach 40+ providing the deal passes through parliament, which would be sufficient to fund my monthly pension transfers. Yes, it matters to me, as I'm not an ideologist.

 

Gotta be an optimist  - and I consider that the majority of MPs would also welcome the same.  

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

7 minutes ago, Orac said:

 

It is up on EU website but struggling to get into it - guess it is rather popular at the moment!

 

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_19_6120

Here you go May's deal in it's entirety with a tweak on the backstop. Farage in meltdown. 

 

All other elements of the Withdrawal Agreement remain unchanged in substance, as per the agreement reached on 14 November 2018. The Withdrawal Agreement brings legal certainty where the UK's withdrawal from the EU created uncertainty: citizens' rights, the financial settlement, a transition period at least until the end of 2020, governance, Protocols on Gibraltar and Cyprus, as well as a range of other separation issues.

 

New Tory rebels emerging and no chance of DUP agreeing. Kate Hoey against. 

 

Edited October 17, 2019 by beautifulthailand99

[stuandjulie]

7 minutes ago, Orac said:

 

It is up on EU website but struggling to get into it - guess it is rather popular at the moment!

 

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_19_6120

Here you go 

The European Commission has today recommended the European Council (Article 50) to endorse the agreement reached at negotiator level on the Withdrawal Agreement, including a revised Protocol on Ireland / Northern Ireland, and approve a revised Political Declaration on the framework of the future EU-UK relationship. The Commission also recommends that the European Parliament give its consent to this agreement. This follows a series of intensive negotiations between the European Commission and UK negotiators over the past few days.

Jean-Claude Juncker, President of the European Commission, said: “This agreement is a fair compromise between the EU and the UK. It is testament to the commitment and willingness of both sides to do what is best for EU and UK citizens. We now have a newly agreed Protocol that protects peace and stability on the island of Ireland and fully protects our Single Market. I hope that we can now bring this over the line and provide the certainty our citizens and businesses so deserve.”

Michel Barnier, the European Commission's Chief Negotiator, said: “We had difficult discussions over the past days. We have managed to find solutions that fully respect the integrity of the Single Market. We created a new and legally operative solution to avoid a hard border, and protect peace and stability on the island of Ireland. It is a solution that works for the EU, for the UK and for people and businesses in Northern Ireland.”

The revised Protocol provides a legally operational solution that avoids a hard border on the island of Ireland, protects the all-island economy and the Good Friday (Belfast) Agreement in all its dimensions and safeguards the integrity of the Single Market. This solution responds to the unique circumstances on the island of Ireland with the aim of protecting peace and stability.

All other elements of the Withdrawal Agreement remain unchanged in substance, as per the agreement reached on 14 November 2018. The Withdrawal Agreement brings legal certainty where the UK's withdrawal from the EU created uncertainty: citizens' rights, the financial settlement, a transition period at least until the end of 2020, governance, Protocols on Gibraltar and Cyprus, as well as a range of other separation issues.

The revised Political Declaration

In terms of regulations, Northern Ireland will remain aligned to a limited set of rules related to the EU's Single Market in order to avoid a hard border: legislation on goods, sanitary rules for veterinary controls (“SPS rules”), rules on agricultural production/marketing, VAT and excise in respect of goods, and state aid rules.

In terms of customs, the EU-UK Single Customs Territory, as agreed in November 2018, has been removed from the Protocol on Ireland / Northern Ireland, at the request of the current UK government. EU and UK negotiators have now found a new way to achieve the goal of avoiding a customs border on the island of Ireland, while at the same time ensuring Northern Ireland remains part of the UK's customs territory. This agreement fully protects the integrity of the EU's Single Market and Customs Union, and avoids any regulatory and customs checks at the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.

Finally, the EU and the UK have agreed to create a new mechanism on ‘consent', which will give the Members of the Northern Ireland Assembly a decisive voice on the long-term application of relevant EU law in Northern Ireland. The Commission has been in close contact with the Irish government on this point.

The revised Political Declaration

The main change in the Political Declarationrelates to the future EU-UK economic relationship where the current UK government has opted for a model based on a Free Trade Agreement (FTA). The Political Declaration provides for an ambitious FTA with zero tariffs and quotas between the EU and the UK. It states that robust commitments on a level playing field should ensure open and fair competition. The precise nature of commitments will be commensurate with the ambition of the future relationship and take into account the economic connectedness and geographic proximity of the UK.

Next steps

It is for the European Council (Article 50) to endorse the revised Withdrawal Agreement in its entirety, as well as approve the revised Political Declaration on the framework of the future relationship.

Before the Withdrawal Agreement can enter into force, it needs to be ratified by the EU and the UK. For the EU, the Council of the European Union must authorise the signature of the Withdrawal Agreement, before sending it to the European Parliament for its consent. The United Kingdom must ratify the agreement according to its own constitutional arrangemen

[beautifulthailand99]

No deal - killed

May Deal - killed

Johnson deal - about to be killed 

What have we left Revoke A50 and move on.

[stephenterry]

11 minutes ago, Orac said:

 

It is up on EU website but struggling to get into it - guess it is rather popular at the moment!

 

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_19_6120

Read the blurb, and it seems perfectly suitable for both the UK and EU. Enough to pass parliament? Wait and see.

 

BTW, I respect Barniers agreement to this deal, because he's probably the only voice who knows what is critically resolved on both sides.

[stephenterry]

6 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

No deal - killed

May Deal - killed

Johnson deal - about to be killed 

What have we left Revoke A50 and move on.

I truly hope not.

Edited October 17, 2019 by stephenterry

[Crossy]

10 minutes ago, stuandjulie said:

Here you go 

 

Thanks. I don't suppose you could translate it into English for us mere mortals?

 

[beautifulthailand99]

Just now, stephenterry said:

I truly hope not.

Hard Brexiteers across the spectrum calling sell out. Listening to LBC a DUP councillor said NI talk-ins filled with working class DUP supporters calling any support for this a total surrender to their Britishness and using the words traitors - sounds familiar. 

[soalbundy]

The fat lady is still singing

[beautifulthailand99]

9 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

Thanks. I don't suppose you could translate it into English for us mere mortals?

 

Theresa's May's deal almost verbatim  with a NI solution where they are uniquely in the UK both in and out of the single market / customs union which DUP sees as a Red Red line. (Though Johnson might bung them another billion and keep upping it to see if they break oh and £39 billion divorce deal. Much talk of Johnson may try to get this through with a referendum if he can't get the numbers with ref being Remain / Johnson's deal. 

 

If you are a hard Brexiteer this is a total and utter sellout - you were warned about him. Brexit Party on poll of polls at 13%. DUP  now saying they would rather remain than accept this deal. 

 

https://britainelects.com/

 

Edited October 17, 2019 by beautifulthailand99

[OneMoreFarang]

I think it's a good idea to wait until the legal text is analyzed, understood and signed by everybody. And that may take some time...

 

And if all that is done and if the UK parliament agreed then it's wonderful that the first part of the Brexit process is done. Then the second part, new agreements with the EU and with all those other countries around the world, can begin.

Enjoy the next couple of years and all those wonderful deals with everybody around the world. ???? 

 

[stephenterry]

3 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Hard Brexiteers across the spectrum calling sell out. Listening to LBC a DUP councillor said NI talk-ins filled with working class DUP supporters calling any support for this a total surrender to their Britishness and using the words traitors - sounds familiar. 

To be expected.  About time people recognise that a compromise is necessary to bring this situation to a finality. johnson has delivered on the referendum vote. So be it, and move on.

[samran]

I expect the term ‘one country, two systems’ to get a new lease on life shortly.

[beautifulthailand99]

1 minute ago, stephenterry said:

To be expected.  About time people recognise that a compromise is necessary to bring this situation to a finality. johnson has delivered on the referendum vote. So be it, and move on.

As had May months and months ago and look who scuppered that. Johnson is about to be served that cold dinner again. 

[beautifulthailand99]

Breaking Labour will vote this deal if there is a confirmatory referendum - this deal vs Remain on the ballot paper. 

[stephenterry]

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

As had May months and months ago and look who scuppered that. Johnson is about to be served that cold dinner again. 

The difference between johnson and May is that he can sell it, May couldn't.

[beautifulthailand99]

Just now, stephenterry said:

The difference between johnson and May is that he can sell it, May couldn't.

Well he hasn't sold it quite yet !

[beautifulthailand99]

Edited October 17, 2019 by beautifulthailand99

[stephenterry]

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Well he hasn't sold it quite yet !

good grief. He's got all of tomorrow...