nauseus Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, sandyf said: Your considered assessment. "Unfortunately, under this (and May's) "agreement", the EU will control the iron and the UK will end up becoming a flattened, singed and steaming pair of Y-fronts. " But what did I vote for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, nauseus said: But what did I vote for? Are you now trying to say that your assessment of leaving "Unfortunately, under this (and May's) "agreement", the EU will control the iron and the UK will end up becoming a flattened, singed and steaming pair of Y-fronts. " is not how you imagined it would turn out. At the end of the day those that voted to leave have to accept what they get whether it is Trump in Y-fronts or not. But what do I know you could be a closet remainer stirring the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, nauseus said: What is it that you assume I voted for? Do you know what you voted for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, dunroaming said: The Lib Dems and the SNP are offering to help Boris get his December election. Because Johnson is forever on the backfoot he may well go with that. Probably know later today. With their plan he would just need a majority and they would give him that. Everybody wants an election as soon as possible but nobody trusts Boris an inch. No10 just confirmed that they would accept a Lib Dem/SNP amendment to get their election in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, sandyf said: Are you now trying to say that your assessment of leaving "Unfortunately, under this (and May's) "agreement", the EU will control the iron and the UK will end up becoming a flattened, singed and steaming pair of Y-fronts. " is not how you imagined it would turn out. At the end of the day those that voted to leave have to accept what they get whether it is Trump in Y-fronts or not. But what do I know you could be a closet remainer stirring the pot. This is not an assessment of leaving, it is my view on what the present withdrawal agreement will mean for the negotiations that are to follow it. Yes, it is not how I imagined it would turn out, although I thought that a complete mess was on the cards, due to the complex web that the EU has stealthily woven over the years; that and all the interference and lack of goodwill since the referendum. But why should leavers have to accept anything, when remainers can't even accept the result of the referendum? Closet remainer? Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Victornoir said: Nostalgia, feeling of superiority, insular mentality, xenophobia, misinformation, loss of confidence, misery... You should have voted leave then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, sawadee1947 said: replace this dysfunctional parliament with ...... Well, there would be no problem with a functional trustworthy honest PM. ???????? Like yours, Seamus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, evadgib said: Like yours, Seamus? Even if you call him a puppet he doesn't tell you lies...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I thought boris said the UK was out on 31 oct deal or no deal. So just do it and be remembered for it. Badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Bruntoid said: But there was no vote cast for a no deal Brexit causing widespread calamity. Brexit has not been cancelled, a calamitous Brexit has. It is baffling how many times you need this pointing out. The MP’s are elected to do, rightly or wrongly, in this case rightly what they believe to be in the best interests of the country, not pander to 17 million people who had no clue of the consequences of what they were voting for. Wow, A 'Ficker than us' and a 'Not a no deal' in the same post! Where do i start... When Cameron returned empty handed having been publicly humiliated by Brussels it, in effect was the EU signalling 'NO DEAL' & calling UK's bluff in the mistaken belief that; a) We wouldn't dare hold a referendum & b ) We wouldn't dare vote to leave & C) They (EU) were far too big & powerful for upstarts like us (or any other wayward desenters among their subverted member states, something they still fear!). Enter St Nigel of Thanet & fast forward to yesterday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said: Even if you call him a puppet he doesn't tell you lies...???? Or hasn't yet been caught ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 hours ago, NanLaew said: Citation? Anyway, how can you possibly have 'electoral fraud' during a referendum? They are two distinctly different breeds of political sacred cow. Wow, who'd expect somebody to post on a subject about which they clearly know so little. The referendum is covered by electoral law. Fraud during a referendum is known as electoral fraud. For a citation, there have been numerous links posted on here, but try looking up the Electoral Commission, they are the ones who described the fraud as "most serious". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 December election it is then! Labour have agreed to back an election in December now that Downing Street has agreed to the SNP/Lib Dem amendment. Who would have thought the Lib Dems and the SNP would be calling the shots???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Victornoir said: In my country, nationalists putting all problems on the back of the EU also exist. Their linear speech seems to be yours. Fortunately, they are a small minority, even more at your Brexit show. You seem confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 On 10/28/2019 at 4:35 PM, Jonathan Fairfield said: The European Union on Monday agreed a 3-month flexible delay to Britain's departure from the bloc and grants UK a Brexit extension until 31 January 2020 Because the poncing EU wants UK to stay and their dosh, l guess the remainers will want Euro instead of £ next so they the remainers minority can watch it crash with the rest of the 27 EU ponces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Bruntoid said: But there was no vote cast for a no deal Brexit causing widespread calamity. Brexit has not been cancelled, a calamitous Brexit has. It is baffling how many times you need this pointing out. The MP’s are elected to do, rightly or wrongly, in this case rightly what they believe to be in the best interests of the country, not pander to 17 million people who had no clue of the consequences of what they were voting for. It's coming home It's coming home It's coming home Brexits coming home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, vogie said: It's coming home It's coming home It's coming home Brexits coming home. And Johnson will be found dead in a ditch on Friday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: And Johnson will be found dead in a ditch on Friday morning. Why ? That doesn't sound like a very mature approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Jip99 said: Why ? That doesn't sound like a very mature approach. It was a play on Johnson's quote (as you well know). Just an immature reply to a very immature post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, DannyCarlton said: It was a play on Johnson's quote (as you well know). Just an immature reply to a very immature post. We have discussed a 'turn of phrase' previously. Now, let's hope we can have a more mature period leading up to the election......... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Deary me. It's all so exiting isn't it. Edge of the chair stuff every other day. More ins and outs than an okey cokey dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Denim said: Deary me. It's all so exiting isn't it. Edge of the chair stuff every other day. More ins and outs than an okey cokey dance. Maybe not so exiting as it should be. But we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jip99 said: We have discussed a 'turn of phrase' previously. Now, let's hope we can have a more mature period leading up to the election......... ???? I don't remember discussing a "turn of phrase" but don't expect a more mature approch whilst certain Brexiteers (not yourself) continue to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 hours ago, dunroaming said: The Lib Dems and the SNP are offering to help Boris get his December election. Because Johnson is forever on the backfoot he may well go with that. Probably know later today. With their plan he would just need a majority and they would give him that. Everybody wants an election as soon as possible but nobody trusts Boris an inch. So who do you trust? The mps who reneged on their constituents in the referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, Jip99 said: We have discussed a 'turn of phrase' previously. Now, let's hope we can have a more mature period leading up to the election......... ???? Don,t hold your breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, kingdong said: Don,t hold your breath Indeed not. Once an Etonian Tory hiso, always an Etonian Tory hiso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, kingdong said: So who do you trust? The mps who reneged on their constituents in the referendum? That cuts both ways. Kate Hoey, long time MP for Vauxhall. Vauxhall voted 78% remain. Lab voters nationally voted 65% remain. Hoey has consistently voted pro Brexit. To cap it all, during the debate on banning foxhunting, the MP for VAUXHALL voted pro foxhunting. Representing her constituents? Yea right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 43 minutes ago, Jip99 said: We have discussed a 'turn of phrase' previously. Now, let's hope we can have a more mature period leading up to the election......... ???? And let's direct that at the current shower in government as well. I suspect each side will promise the world and deliver nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said: And Johnson will be found dead in a ditch on Friday morning. With an election being called the smart money is on Stomper ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, kingdong said: So who do you trust? The mps who reneged on their constituents in the referendum? Well certainly not those who promised that Brexit would be the easiest deal ever or the fantasy amount on the side of the bus or "We will leave on the 31st October deal or no-deal" or Europe needs us more than we need them or...…… The list is endless. The MPs not prepared to take us over the cliff are the one's protecting their constituents who fell for all the blather and lies in the first case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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