webfact Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 PrEP HIV-prevention med makes progress in Thailand BANGKOK (NNT) - The Thai Red Cross Society has held a seminar following up on PrEP pre-exposure HIV prevention medicine services in Thailand, where the drugs are offered to persons in risk groups, helping them prevent becoming infected. The medication, which will accumulate within the body, after a period of daily administration, can help destroy HIV virus entering the body, with almost 100% percent prevention capability. The Department of Disease Control recommends people who indulge in risky behavior use PrEP to help prevent new infections. The seminar was held in honor of HRH Princess Soamsawali, the Princess Suddhanarinatha, who has been named the Goodwill Ambassador for HIV Prevention in Asia and the Pacific by the Joint United Nations Program on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS), due to her remarkable contributions to public health campaigns. The National Health Security Office (NHSO) Secretary General Sakcha Kanjanawatana said at this seminar that the government has given high priority to the prevention of infectious diseases, especially HIV/AIDS, which has shown a remarkable decline in new cases over the past 4 years. He said the use of PrEP, or pre-exposure prophylaxis medication, is an option to prevent HIV infection in addition to the use of condoms, with close to 100 percent effectiveness. People in risk groups, such as those with multiple sexual partners and those who cannot use condoms every time, are encouraged to take this medication to prevent HIV infection. The Department of Disease Control (DDC) Deputy Director General Preecha Prempree said PrEP will be covered under national health security benefits from 2020 fiscal year, thus, people in risk groups can help protect themselves from HIV infection by requesting the medication at any of the 51 service centers in 21 provinces across the country, all free of charge. -- © Copyright NNT 2019-10-30 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I wonder why this has taken so long ? PrEP has been available in UK, USA, most European countries, NZ, and Australia for many years. All the studies show it is efficacious in prevention. It does not preclude the use of condoms for other sexually transmissible infections,(herpes, chlamydia, syphilis) and this needs to be part of the education of prescribers and patients. 3/12 sexual health checks are also part pf the protocols. A move in the right direction for health care. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) How much for a monthly dose for foreigners? Edited October 29, 2019 by Destiny1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I thought the best prevention was a zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, soalbundy said: I thought the best prevention was a zip Half a dozen Leo's for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted October 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) Good news for gays and other high-risk groups prone to HIV/AIDS but hardly likely to make a dent in the sharp rise of STD cases, particularly the young. PrEP, as the article makes clear, is recomended to be used in addition to a condom. However, latest studies show that many teenagers are worried about appearing not to trust their partner and spurn the humble "meechai" - with predictably worrying results. In just six years, according to a recent Nation report, the number of teens with an STD has doubled from 80.8 to 161.2 per 1,000 people. The most common infections include gonorrhoea, chlamydia, chancroid and genital herpes. Most alarmingly, cases of potentially-fatal syphillis, have "skyrocketed", according to Dr Thanyanan Kangvalpornroj of the Bangrak STI centre, Bangkjok. Both genders and in people of all ages are affected, including newborns with mothers unaware they have the disease. With the biggest group of patients teenage students coming from high schools and universities, Thailand must abandon its traditional prissiness about sex education and give future generations the knowledge they need to lead a happy and safe sex life. Edited October 30, 2019 by Krataiboy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Good news for gays and other high-risk groups prone to HIV/AIDS but hardly likely to make a dent in the sharp rise of STD cases, particularly the young. PrEP, as the article makes clear, is recomended to be used in addition to a condom. However, latest studies show that many teenagers are worried about appearing not to trust their partner and spurn the humble "meechai" - with predictably worrying results. In just six years, according to a recent Nation report, the number of teens with an STD has doubled from 80.8 to 161.2 per 1,000 people. The most common infections include gonorrhoea, chlamydia, chancroid and genital herpes. Most alarmingly, cases of potentially-fatal syphillis, have "skyrocketed", according to Dr Thanyanan Kangvalpornroj of the Bangrak STI centre, Bangkjok. Both genders and in people of all ages are affected, including newborns with mothers unaware they have the disease. With the biggest group of patients teenage students coming from high schools and universities, Thailand must abandon its traditional prissiness about sex education and give future generations the knowledge they need to lead a happy and safe sex life. The article did not state Prep had to be used in addition to a condom. The article stated Prep is an option in addition to a condom to prevent HIV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, cleopatra2 said: The article did not state Prep had to be used in addition to a condom. The article stated Prep is an option in addition to a condom to prevent HIV. You misquote me. I didn't say Prep "had to be used in addition to a condom". I wrote: "PrEP, as the article makes clear, is recommended to be used in addition to a condom". Clearly, from the evidence, not doing as was recomended would increase the likelihood of an infection - and possibly a fatal one in the case of syphillis. So why are you carrying on, Cleo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: You misquote me. I didn't say Prep "had to be used in addition to a condom". I wrote: "PrEP, as the article makes clear, is recommended to be used in addition to a condom". "He said the use of PrEP, or pre-exposure prophylaxis medication, is an option to prevent HIV infection in addition to the use of condoms, with close to 100 percent effectiveness." So you can use either the medication or a condom to achieve close to 100 percent protection or how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Beggar said: "He said the use of PrEP, or pre-exposure prophylaxis medication, is an option to prevent HIV infection in addition to the use of condoms, with close to 100 percent effectiveness." So you can use either the medication or a condom to achieve close to 100 percent protection or how? There's no such thing as 100 percent protection. Otherwise we wouldn't have so many unwanted babies and diseases. The sentence you quote was a little ambiguous. I took it to be to be a sensible belt-and-braces recommendation with a wider application than possibly intended which is why I wrote what I did. No harm done, hopefully. Maybe even a few less unwanted pregnancies and STI's if anyone has the good grace to take what I posted seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: There's no such thing as 100 percent protection. Otherwise we wouldn't have so many unwanted babies and diseases. The sentence you quote was a little ambiguous. I took it to be to be a sensible belt-and-braces recommendation with a wider application than possibly intended which is why I wrote what I did. No harm done, hopefully. Maybe even a few less unwanted pregnancies and STI's if anyone has the good grace to take what I posted seriously. The sentence becomes clear when read in conjunction with the rest of the paragraoh. PreP is suitable for high risk groups . One of the examples given is persons who can not use a condom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, cleopatra2 said: The sentence becomes clear when read in conjunction with the rest of the paragraoh. PreP is suitable for high risk groups . One of the examples given is persons who can not use a condom. Indulge me. I must have led a sheltered life. Who are "persons who cannot use a condom" but are a "high risk group" when it comes to the transmission of the HIV virus? Edited October 30, 2019 by Krataiboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Indulge me. I must have led a sheltered life. Who are "persons who cannot use a condom" but are a "high risk group" when it comes to the transmission of the HIV virus? I cant use the condoms in Thailand, Very difficult to find XL irregular condoms . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Indulge me. I must have led a sheltered life. Who are "persons who cannot use a condom" but are a "high risk group" when it comes to the transmission of the HIV virus? Persons who suffer from latex allergy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) In that case, they won't be running out of P 29 minutes ago, sirineou said: I cant use the condoms in Thailand, Very difficult to find XL irregular condoms . You're not supposed to pull them over your head. Edited October 30, 2019 by Krataiboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Krataiboy said: You're not to pull them over your head. Ohh <deleted>, That would explain the shortness of breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said: Persons who suffer from latex allergy That's a tiny fraction of hetero men and women and an even more miniscule fraction of MSM's. So we won't be running out of PrEP pills any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) Just now, sirineou said: Ohh <deleted>, That would explain the shortness of breath. Sounds like the only thing you are short of! Edited October 30, 2019 by Krataiboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: That's a tiny fraction of hetero men and women and an even more miniscule fraction of MSM's. So we won't be running out of PrEP pills any time soon. You asked for a group of people who can not use condom. Not a scenerio where PreP would become scarce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Sounds like the only thing you are short of! Definitely the only thing I am short of. On all other fronts I am a paragon of virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said: You asked for a group of people who can not use condom. Not a scenerio where PreP would become scarce Thank you for putting me right. And since we're being picky, it's scenario with an a. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 10 hours ago, Beggar said: "He said the use of PrEP, or pre-exposure prophylaxis medication, is an option to prevent HIV infection in addition to the use of condoms, with close to 100 percent effectiveness." So you can use either the medication or a condom to achieve close to 100 percent protection or how? The use of condoms along with taking PrEP is the recommended protocol. The condom is for prevention of transmission of other STIs such as chlamydia syphilis Herpes. PrEP does not prevent the transmission of anything other than HIV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janner1 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 16 hours ago, sirineou said: I cant use the condoms in Thailand, Very difficult to find XL irregular condoms . Another one with a 2 inch monster! Is’nt imagination a wonderful thing next thing you will tell us is that you have big feet totally missing the fact that this just means big socks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 18 hours ago, sirineou said: I cant use the condoms in Thailand, Very difficult to find XL irregular condoms . Then buy the silicone ones and import them, ansell will ship em for you if you contact them (maybe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) On 10/30/2019 at 6:55 AM, Destiny1990 said: How much for a monthly dose for foreigners? The Red Cross in Bangkok sell 30 day supply of Thai generic Truvada for ~650 baht... You would need a written prescription... My guess a hospitals would charge twice that... Btw Thailand makes their own generic Truvada it is marketed under the name TENO-EM https://www.medconsultasia.com/product-page/hiv-prep-medicine Edited October 31, 2019 by sfokevin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, sfokevin said: The Red Cross in Bangkok sell 30 day supply of Thai generic Truvada for ~650 baht... You would need a written prescription... My guess a hospitals would charge twice that... Btw Thailand makes their own generic Truvada it is marketed under the name TENO-EM https://www.medconsultasia.com/product-page/hiv-prep-medicine Any know side effects of this medicine that you know of? Anyone here talking this med already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: Any know side effects of this medicine that you know of? Anyone here talking this med already? PreP needs to be taken on a daily bssis . Side effects are known to occur in long term use of Truvada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 33 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: Any know side effects of this medicine that you know of? Anyone here talking this med already? Plenty of research on the efficacy and any side effects/ Just google "PrEP, https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/research/biomedicalresearch/prep/index.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Any vaccine in the pipeline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Destiny1990 said: Any vaccine in the pipeline? Been in the “pipeline” For over a decade, but Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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