Must Read Britain set for December 12 election to break the Brexit deadlock

[DannyCarlton]

9 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

In this way; if remain won, the leave would demand best of three and it would go on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on on and on and on ....................... and on

Is that post the result of a nervous twitch caused by the thought of a people's vote and remain winning it?

 

See a doctor, you can get tablets for that.

 

BTW. I did use the word "binding". Look it up in a dictionary.

 

 

Edited October 30, 2019 by DannyCarlton

[DannyCarlton]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yep, clearly JRM is destroying the UK economy deliberately so he can make a few quid shorting the pound.

Not exactly shorting the £ but you're beginning to get the picture.

[izod10]

Just now, DannyCarlton said:

Is that post the result of a nervous twitch caused by the though of a people's vote and remain winning it?

 

See a doctor, you can get tablets for that.

 

BTW. I did use the word "binding". Look it up in a dictionary.

The peoples will was ignored,the majority,now for you especially you,all is lost.  No referendum,not that it would ever occur, 50 never to be abandoned just all hot air wasted,   for you all is lost

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, JAG said:

A General Election.

 

 Hmm, I know, we could call it "the peoples vote!"

 

Of course, if it produces the "wrong result" no doubt it will be claimed that it was " only advisory"...

 

No it won't be claimed that - but it will be repeated in a few years.

 

Unlike referendums, which can only be advisory under the UK constitution law, and do require a specific Act to enable them.

 

False equivalence. It's the liar conniving politicians who promised to abide by the referendum result because they expected a different result; and then lied again to try and win an election, that's the issue.

 

An election won't change that. They'll still be liars.

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

No it won't be claimed that - but it will be repeated in a few years.

 

Unlike referendums, which can only be advisory under the UK constitution law, and do require a specific Act to enable them.

 

False equivalence. It's the liar conniving politicians who promised to abide by the referendum result because they expected a different result; and then lied again to try and win an election, that's the issue.

 

An election won't change that. They'll still be liars.

Yeah, but they'll be different liars.

[Baerboxer]

50 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

There are no guarantees on the outcome of a GE, which is always about far more than a single issue (remember 2017?)

 

The people's vote would settle the matter one way or the other with no ambiguity. The key is in the word "binding" which Cameron conveniently omitted from the 2016 referendum bill.

 

Referendums, or "people's vote" if you like calling them that, cannot be binding in the UK. An Act that included the word binding could not be enacted into law as would be in contradiction to the constitution. 

 

Politicians breaking promises and lying is another matter. Generally accepted, sadly.

[DannyCarlton]

10 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Truth is something I can accept. Channel 4, I have a problem with.

And this one?

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/jacob-rees-mogg-line-huge-personal-windfall-britain-exits-single-market/07/02/

 

"Jacob Rees-Mogg is in line for a huge personal windfall when Britain exits the single market"

 

And to indicate the holier than though morals of the man:

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/anti-abortion-tory-mp-jacob-rees-mogg-profits-pills-used-illegal-abortions/01/10/?doing_wp_cron=1572405029.7467389106750488281250

 

"Anti-abortion Tory MP Jacob Rees-Mogg profits from pills used for illegal abortions"

[Baerboxer]

Just now, vogie said:

Yeah, but they'll be different liars.

 

But those selected by Boris's Tories will be stooges who do as they told. Only Corbynistas who want to impose the fairyland Orwellian vision of their loony leader will be selected for Labour.

 

They'll by liars, but not as we know them Jim!

[englishoak]

Good, the people finally get to choose a new parliament.

 

Prediction, Labour are going to get what it deserves and thats decimated from all sides and rightly so, it stands for everything and nothing. 

 

Should rename this GE The Purge because theres going to be lots of political Turkeys going spare this Xmas thats for sure. 

 

PS Labour are also nearly broke, its membership is down 57k,  "the peoples vote" fell apart at the weekend with in bickering, a sacking and refusal to leave and to top it all Tom Watson was going around this week doing interviews stabbing Corbyn happily in the back lol

 

Oh yes and Labours amendment attempt for 16 year olds  and EU members residing in the UK to vote just fell flat on its face... this how desperate Labour has become, sad but true

 

Edited October 30, 2019 by englishoak

[Old Croc]

As an outsider I'm sick and tired of the word being plastered all over my news feeds. It's been years!  Pull your finger out UK and do something!

I'm with this guy:

 

[Baerboxer]

Just now, DannyCarlton said:

And this one?

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/jacob-rees-mogg-line-huge-personal-windfall-britain-exits-single-market/07/02/

 

"Jacob Rees-Mogg is in line for a huge personal windfall when Britain exits the single market"

 

And to indicate the holier than though morals of the man:

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/anti-abortion-tory-mp-jacob-rees-mogg-profits-pills-used-illegal-abortions/01/10/?doing_wp_cron=1572405029.7467389106750488281250

 

"Anti-abortion Tory MP Jacob Rees-Mogg profits from pills used for illegal abortions"

 

And the LibDem's leader's husband is boss of an organizations that get's multi-million funding from the EU.

 

There all at it mate. 

 

Drain the swamp and there wouldn't be much that didn't go down the plug hole!

[Thingamabob]

In spite of Boris personally being way ahead of all the other party leaders in the polls this is far from looking like a Tory walkover. The existence of the Brexit Party makes the outcome unpredictable. If the Tories and Brexit do not cooperate Corbyn/Labour could well slide in through the back door.

[Sticky Wicket]

16 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Is that post the result of a nervous twitch caused by the thought of a people's vote and remain winning it?

 

See a doctor, you can get tablets for that.

 

BTW. I did use the word "binding". Look it up in a dictionary.

 

 

referendums are not legally binding

[DannyCarlton]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Referendums, or "people's vote" if you like calling them that, cannot be binding in the UK. An Act that included the word binding could not be enacted into law as would be in contradiction to the constitution. 

 

Politicians breaking promises and lying is another matter. Generally accepted, sadly.

That rule can be changed in a day by an act of parliament.

 

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

In spite of Boris personally being way ahead of all the other party leaders in the polls this is far from looking like a Tory walkover. The existence of the Brexit Party makes the outcome unpredictable. If the Tories and Brexit do not cooperate Corbyn/Labour could well slide in through the back door.

Sounds disgusting!

[Sticky Wicket]

3 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

That rule can be changed in a day by an act of parliament.

 

What planet are you on?

You could fertilise whole countries with the BS you have been spouting on this thread alone

Edited October 30, 2019 by Sticky Wicket

[DannyCarlton]

5 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

What planet are you on?

You could fertilise whole countries with the BS you have been spouting on this thread alone

I go on facts and provide links to prove them. And you?

 

Howling brexitees live on rhetoric not facts.

 

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/brexit/a-second-brexit-referendum-the-rules/

 

"Whether or not the final result would be binding on the Government could be set out in the Act enabling the referendum."

 

 

Edited October 30, 2019 by DannyCarlton

[LiamB80]

I think they’re trying to wait it out until next year to see if Trump is re-elected.

[nauseus]

11 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

And this one?

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/jacob-rees-mogg-line-huge-personal-windfall-britain-exits-single-market/07/02/

 

"Jacob Rees-Mogg is in line for a huge personal windfall when Britain exits the single market"

 

And to indicate the holier than though morals of the man:

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/anti-abortion-tory-mp-jacob-rees-mogg-profits-pills-used-illegal-abortions/01/10/?doing_wp_cron=1572405029.7467389106750488281250

 

"Anti-abortion Tory MP Jacob Rees-Mogg profits from pills used for illegal abortions"

Did you read them? First story: no proof. Second one: some Indonesians misusing a drug designed to treat stomach ulcers to trigger abortions - Mogg has no control over that - what about the people with the ulcers? All gutter press. Bye.   

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, LiamB80 said:

I think they’re trying to wait it out until next year to see if Trump is re-elected.

You need to catch up on the news on the other side of ‘the pond’.

[Sticky Wicket]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You need to catch up on the news on the other side of ‘the pond’.

Trump is an absolute shoe in for 2020

 

Suck it up haha 

[nauseus]

16 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

I go on facts and provide links to prove them. And you?

 

Howling brexitees live on rhetoric not facts.

 

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/brexit/a-second-brexit-referendum-the-rules/

 

"Whether or not the final result would be binding on the Government could be set out in the Act enabling the referendum."

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

21 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

As an outsider I'm sick and tired of the word being plastered all over my news feeds. It's been years!  Pull your finger out UK and do something!

I'm with this guy:

 

A lot of people are ‘with that guy’.

 

Which raises a question.

 

Is going into an election on a platform of ‘Brexit’ a vote winner for a party that for 3 years has failed to deliver Brexit?

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A lot of people are ‘with that guy’.

 

Which raises a question.

 

Is going into an election on a platform of ‘Brexit’ a vote winner for a party that for 3 years has failed to deliver Brexit?

Yes

[DannyCarlton]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

 

 

Is that a fact!

 

Nope, just more Brexiteer meaningless rhetoric.

[JonnyF]

26 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

That rule can be changed in a day by an act of parliament.

 

Yes and changed back again if Leave won. Pointless.

[englishoak]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Is going into an election on a platform of ‘Brexit’ a vote winner for a party that for 3 years has failed to deliver Brexit?

 

Given its the only main party even claiming it will deliver Brexit anymore has a deal agreed with the EU ready to roll ( bad as it is ) and Boris/Torys are currently hovering around 40% in multiple polls that would be a definite yes, very likely. 

 

 

[DannyCarlton]

1 minute ago, Sticky Wicket said:

There is somebody on this thread who gets people suspended all the time............. and it ain't me!

I despise grasses and snitches!

Agreed. I could name him but I'd get suspended. 555

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Johnson taking a huge gamble, although the bookmakers have him down for a majority ... but that will depend on getting traditional Labour voters in the North of England voting for him to make up for losses in Scotland to SNP and in England to the Lib Dem’s. 

 

I think the bookies are wrong ... we’re heading for a hung parliament followed by a second referendum. Still life in the old Brexit dog yet!

Losses to the SNP? Last time around, the 'Popular Movement for the Liberation of Scotland' LOST 21 seats, notably dumping former First Pontificater Minister Salmond out on his Westminster butt along with Angus Robertson, their House Leader, while the Conservatives gained 12 seats. Even the hapless Scottish Labour somehow grabbed 6 seats.

 

Lib Dems?... mehhh

[JonnyF]

The plug has been pulled and they're disappearing down the hole already. Heidi Allen who was elected as a Conservative on a manifesto to Leave and then changed parties to join Remainiacs Change UK and then the Lib Dems (without a by-election) has resigned and is now playing the victim and complaining that everyone has been so "nasty" to her.

 

Who'd have thought people would be upset by such a betrayal of their vote. Poor Heidi.