Popular Post webfact Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 Former CIA Director Brennan: Votes were swayed by Russian influence operation By Raphael Satter FILE PHOTO: Former CIA director John Brennan speaks during a forum on election security titled, “2020 Vision: Intelligence and the U.S. Presidential Election” at the National Press Club in Washington, U.S., October 30, 2019. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts/File Photo WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former CIA Director John Brennan said on Wednesday that at least some American voters were swayed as a result of Russia's 2016 election interference operation, a statement that went further than the official assessments of U.S. intelligence agencies and lawmakers. Speaking alongside other former intelligence figures at the National Press Club in Washington, Brennan said he was “sure, personally, that those Russian efforts changed the mind of at least one voter.” “Whether it was one voter or a million voters, I don’t know," he added. Brennan, who led the CIA from 2013 to 2017 during Democratic President Barack Obama's administration, said he was speaking on his own behalf, noting that the impact on the vote was something the CIA “did not assess.” But he said there was no question there was some effect – possibly affecting the final result itself, which brought Republican Donald Trump to the presidency. “How many, in which states, I don’t know. Whether it changed the outcome, I don’t know,” Brennan said. Brennan has been a sharp critic of Trump. Last year, the president revoked Brennan’s security clearance for making what he called “unfounded and outrageous allegations” about his administration. Brennan's comments on Wednesday contrasted with conclusions published after a series of official investigations into the hacking, leaks and social media influence campaign carried out by Russian hackers in the run-up to the 2016 presidential contest. Moscow has denied interfering in the election. U.S. officials have generally been careful not to make any public judgment on whether voters had their minds changed by Russian actions. Last year, lawmakers said in a report there was “no evidence of changed votes,” although they were referring to voting machines and digital tallies. (Reporting by Raphael Satter; Editing by Peter Cooney) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-10-31 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 He is absolutely correct, of course there were voters who were swayed. How many??? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 Trump eked out a win with 70,000 votes across 3 states to win the electoral college that’s not much perhaps they did swing the election and bring this disaster on the USA and the rest of the world 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LiamB80 Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) I voted for Trump and what influenced me to do that was Hillary was a terrible candidate. Her health was also a major factor in my voting. I thought to myself, how’s it gonna look when she flops on the floor from a seizure and pees her pants in important overseas meetings. Russia had zero influence. Edited October 31, 2019 by LiamB80 13 2 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, LiamB80 said: I voted for Trump and what influenced me to do that was Hillary was a terrible candidate. Her health was also a major factor in my voting. I thought to myself, how’s it gonna look when she flops on the floor from a seizure and pees her pant in important overseas meetings. Russia had zero influence. You really have no idea how opinions are influenced. You say you were not influenced by Russia, and claim as well that her health was a major factor. On top of that, even if for you it had zero influence, which I don't believe, there were 60 million other Trump voters. 5 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, LiamB80 said: I voted for Trump and what influenced me to do that was Hillary was a terrible candidate. Her health was also a major factor in my voting. I thought to myself, how’s it gonna look when she flops on the floor from a seizure and pees her pants in important overseas meetings. Russia had zero influence. A big part of the Russia influence campaign was to attack Hillary Clinton, including her health, candidacy, etc. So it looks like you were influenced by the Russians. 5 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LiamB80 Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Berkshire said: A big part of the Russia influence campaign was to attack Hillary Clinton, including her health, candidacy, etc. So it looks like you were influenced by the Russians. Did Russia make her have a seizure that was recorded on video? Did Russia make her get thrown in a van like a slab of meat by secret service agents because she was wobbly and on the verge of passing out? Did Russia put those syphilis lesions on her tongue? Did Russia make her use a catheter because she can’t hold her bladder in public? The msm tried to hide these incidents. The voting public has a right to know. Russia made you believe they had influence when they really didn’t. That’s the real power. People like you believed it and were suckered into thinking that. 8 3 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, stevenl said: He is absolutely correct, of course there were voters who were swayed. How many??? 1 is 1 too many. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, LiamB80 said: Did Russia make her have a seizure that was recorded on video? Did Russia make her get thrown in a van like a slab of meat by secret service agents because she was wobbly and on the verge of passing out? Did Russia put those syphilis lesions on her tongue? Did Russia make her use a catheter because she can’t hold her bladder in public? The msm tried to hide these incidents. The voting public has a right to know. Russia made you believe they had influence when they really didn’t. That’s the real power. People like you believed it and were suckered into thinking that. And you double down by posting more of the Russian anti Clinton Propaganda. 5 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LiamB80 Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: And you double down by posting more of the Russian anti Clinton Propaganda. I saw this with my own eyes. Unless Russia is somehow in my retina and manipulating what I see, they didn’t influence anything. $100k worth of facebook adds was discovered. That’s a very small amount of influence. In the age of the internet, it’s hard to stop that. Did Russia make Hillary not even once go to battleground states and campaign in the Midwest where she lost? So many excuses from the left. Own up to it, she was a terrible candidate. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 27 minutes ago, LiamB80 said: I saw this with my own eyes. Unless Russia is somehow in my retina and manipulating what I see, they didn’t influence anything. $100k worth of facebook adds was discovered. That’s a very small amount of influence. In the age of the internet, it’s hard to stop that. Did Russia make Hillary not even once go to battleground states and campaign in the Midwest where she lost? So many excuses from the left. Own up to it, she was a terrible candidate. Yes, she was a terrible candidate. Does that statement have anything to do with proven Russian election meddling, no. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unify Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 It's a very different thing saying, 'no voting machines were compromised in the hacking attempts', and 'no voters were swayed'. From what I can tell, people are easily fooled. If I was looking for a group to con, a group that believes two of every kind of animal fit on a 400 foot boat would be a good place to start. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 A troll post using a trolling representation of Trump's name has been removed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 5 hours ago, LiamB80 said: Did Russia make her have a seizure that was recorded on video? Did Russia make her get thrown in a van like a slab of meat by secret service agents because she was wobbly and on the verge of passing out? Did Russia put those syphilis lesions on her tongue? Did Russia make her use a catheter because she can’t hold her bladder in public? The msm tried to hide these incidents. The voting public has a right to know. Russia made you believe they had influence when they really didn’t. That’s the real power. People like you believed it and were suckered into thinking that. That you believe it was a seizure shows that you were influenced. I remember those ridiculous doctored fake videos of the so-called seizure. Where do you think those doctored videos were coming from? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-seizure-video/ 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, LiamB80 said: I voted for Trump and what influenced me to do that was Hillary was a terrible candidate. Her health was also a major factor in my voting. I thought to myself, how’s it gonna look when she flops on the floor from a seizure and pees her pants in important overseas meetings. Russia had zero influence. Ahhhhh you do know her health was one of the major parts of the russan disinformation campaign don’t you? Edited October 31, 2019 by Tug 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post atyclb Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 6 hours ago, LiamB80 said: 7 hours ago, Berkshire said: A big part of the Russia influence campaign was to attack Hillary Clinton, including her health, candidacy, etc. So it looks like you were influenced by the Russians. Did Russia make her have a seizure that was recorded on video? Did Russia make her get thrown in a van like a slab of meat by secret service agents because she was wobbly and on the verge of passing out? Did Russia put those syphilis lesions on her tongue? Did Russia make her use a catheter because she can’t hold her bladder in public? The msm tried to hide these incidents. The voting public has a right to know. Russia made you believe they had influence when they really didn’t. That’s the real power. People like you believed it and were suckered into thinking that. seems the best bet to win in 2020 is for the democrats to hire the russians to manage their campaign 2 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, atyclb said: seems the best bet to win in 2020 is for the democrats to hire the russians to manage their campaign Well, if they can get Trump elected, then they can get anyone elected. 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, atyclb said: seems the best bet to win in 2020 is for the democrats to hire the russians to manage their campaign Naaa Donald allready hired them after all he is the best asset the russan federation ever had 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LawrenceN Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, bristolboy said: That you believe it was a seizure shows that you were influenced. I remember those ridiculous doctored fake videos of the so-called seizure. Where do you think those doctored videos were coming from? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-seizure-video/ And that's just the tip of the iceberg. "Why isn't she in jail?" the righties like to ask? The answer: because she's never committed a crime. She was the target of a 25-year smear campaign. Whitewater! Benghazi! Husband's <deleted>! Child porn ring in a pizza parlor basement! All repeated ad nauseum, because she was perceived to be such a threat. She proved herself to be a capable senator and competent Secretary of State, and would have been a fine POTUS. Look at the shambles we've got instead. 8 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Becker Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, LawrenceN said: And that's just the tip of the iceberg. "Why isn't she in jail?" the righties like to ask? The answer: because she's never committed a crime. She was the target of a 25-year smear campaign. Whitewater! Benghazi! Husband's <deleted>! Child porn ring in a pizza parlor basement! All repeated ad nauseum, because she was perceived to be such a threat. She proved herself to be a capable senator and competent Secretary of State, and would have been a fine POTUS. Look at the shambles we've got instead. Would be hard to find someone less suited for the job than Trump even if you tried. Edited October 31, 2019 by Becker 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, bristolboy said: 2 hours ago, atyclb said: seems the best bet to win in 2020 is for the democrats to hire the russians to manage their campaign Well, if they can get Trump elected, then they can get anyone elected. agree, therefore their candidate would stand a chance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tug said: 2 hours ago, atyclb said: seems the best bet to win in 2020 is for the democrats to hire the russians to manage their campaign Naaa Donald allready hired them after all he is the best asset the russan federation ever had kazahkstan more capable to meddle in elections anyway (humour post not troll) Edited October 31, 2019 by atyclb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tippaporn Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 9 hours ago, stevenl said: You really have no idea how opinions are influenced. You say you were not influenced by Russia, and claim as well that her health was a major factor. On top of that, even if for you it had zero influence, which I don't believe, there were 60 million other Trump voters. You really have no idea how opinions are influenced. That's rich coming from a Trump hater. No has has influenced you to hate Trump, right? The Russian interference narrative I believe is a complete scam. Brennan: “Whether it was one voter or a million voters, I don’t know." “How many, in which states, I don’t know." "Whether it changed the outcome, I don’t know.” The head of the CIA and he's clueless. But to be sure, it's veeeery real. LOL 3 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 Why didn't the Obama Admin. battle the Russian interference? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 11 hours ago, webfact said: Votes were swayed by Russian influence operation So what? Many countries, organizations, companies, etc. have newspapers, websites, etc. and those speak to or about elections in their own or other countries. Those all influence how people vote. People read and see and hear things, then go vote. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gk10002000 Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 10 hours ago, Berkshire said: A big part of the Russia influence campaign was to attack Hillary Clinton, including her health, candidacy, etc. So it looks like you were influenced by the Russians. How did the Russian influence campaign attack her? In what manner? Cite a publication. Cite an article. Many many people and news stations were against her and some stations were against Trump. She and her husband were their own worse enemies. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chokrai Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 10 hours ago, Berkshire said: A big part of the Russia influence campaign was to attack Hillary Clinton, including her health, candidacy, etc. So it looks like you were influenced by the Russians. Or it could have been seeing her flop around like a drunken hobo. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gk10002000 Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 Votes were swayed by Russian influence operation Swayed which way? Maybe people saw the diatribe and decided it was a poor attack and voted for Clinton! There is no data showing and certainly not proving anything in either direction 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tippaporn said: You really have no idea how opinions are influenced. That's rich coming from a Trump hater. No has has influenced you to hate Trump, right? The Russian interference narrative I believe is a complete scam. Brennan: “Whether it was one voter or a million voters, I don’t know." “How many, in which states, I don’t know." "Whether it changed the outcome, I don’t know.” The head of the CIA and he's clueless. But to be sure, it's veeeery real. LOL Brennan is a political hack! More disinformation by this traitor! They,the IC knew in 2014 according to this politico piece,that the Russians were coming and interfering ! "There was no explicit warning of a threat to U.S. elections, but the official said some diplomats and national security officials in Moscow felt the administration was too quick to dismiss the possibility that the Kremlin incursions could reach the United States". “People have criticized us ... for not coming out more forcefully and saying it,” former CIA Director John Brennan said at the Aspen National Forum in July. “There was no playbook for this.” https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/14/obama-russia-election-interference-241547 So they (brennen ,comey and clapper) didn't tell the Trump administration that,especially when they were doing a counter intel on a incursion in 2016, 2 years later ! IMOP it was a way to delitigitmize the Trump election, while claiming after, the past admin couldn't tell Trump, cause it would look like they were interfering. I suppose that will come out in the criminal investigation that Durham is heading Edited October 31, 2019 by riclag 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tippaporn Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 10 hours ago, bristolboy said: That you believe it was a seizure shows that you were influenced. I remember those ridiculous doctored fake videos of the so-called seizure. Where do you think those doctored videos were coming from? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-seizure-video/ Using Snopes as verification of doctored videos! LOL How would they know? Where is their evidence? Oh, that's right. They don't need to produce any! Another tainted liberal outlet. Wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. There were so many videos of instances where Clinton was obviously having health issues. Everything from what appeared to be seizures to collapses to uncontrollable coughing. It's mind boggling that posters can't bring themselves to believe facts that are wholly apparent with your own eyes. And even more mind boggling that they think they can somehow convince others to deny what they're actually seeing for themselves. The level of denial is astounding. Yeah, where were those "doctored" videos coming from, bristolboy? Where is there the slightest evidence that any of them were produced by the Russians? There is none. It's all made up. There's no truth for it. Just another narrative that fits with what people desperately want to believe. Perhaps you, as well as many others, were influenced by this complete fabrication? 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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