For newborn, is 15 day Visa on Arrival conversion to dependent extension of stay possible?

[mirtl]

All advice welcome. 

Newborn infant born outside Thailand, and national of one of  Visa on Arrival (not visa exempt) countries with fresh passport, but no Thai visa.  Parents non-Thai, father on retirement extension of stay, mother on dependent extension of stay tied to father.

Or is it only possible to apply for a single 90 day non-imm O dependent for infant in home country, and then convert to extension of stay before end of 90 days. 

Thank you for any suggestions.

[ubonjoe]

Immigration does not do a change to or issue a non immigrant visa (category O) for family members of those on extensions based upon retirement. Also if they did it would not be done for a a 15 dav visa on arrival.

The baby would need to have a single entry non-o visa issued by a embassy or consulate to apply for the extension. It would not have to be applied for in their home country unless it is on the list of restricted countries.

Children under the age of 15 are not fined for an overstay if more time was needed before going out for a non-o visa.

 

[NicoBKK]

As usual, Ubonjoe is correct. New born does not require visa or passport, however should they travel abroad, they will need from the specified Country Embassy Non-O visa before flying back into Thailand to transform it as NON IMM. My newborn is Italian so we did it in Italy. Allow a few days for Non -O issuing.

[mirtl]

On 11/16/2019 at 11:17 AM, ubonjoe said:

Immigration does not do a change to or issue a non immigrant visa (category O) for family members of those on extensions based upon retirement. Also if they did it would not be done for a a 15 dav visa on arrival.

The baby would need to have a single entry non-o visa issued by a embassy or consulate to apply for the extension. It would not have to be applied for in their home country unless it is on the list of restricted countries.

Children under the age of 15 are not fined for an overstay if more time was needed before going out for a non-o visa.

 

Thank you for the very clear explanation.

Alternatively, if the infant were on a tourist visa, could it be converted to Non-Imm O within Thailand, and then extended?

If father got job, work permit, visa etc, and baby was tied to that, would it make any difference?

Sorry for the slightly complicated clarifications.

[ubonjoe]

10 minutes ago, mirtl said:

Alternatively, if the infant were on a tourist visa, could it be converted to Non-Imm O within Thailand, and then extended?

Not if you are an extension based upon retirement.

It should not be a problem to get a single entry non-o visa at a embassy or consulate.

13 minutes ago, mirtl said:

If father got job, work permit, visa etc, and baby was tied to that, would it make any difference?

The change of visa status could be done if you were on an extension based upon working. But the  baby would need to be on a tourist visa.

[mirtl]

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Not if you are an extension based upon retirement.

It should not be a problem to get a single entry non-o visa at a embassy or consulate.

The change of visa status could be done if you were on an extension based upon working. But the  baby would need to be on a tourist visa.

Thank you very much.

[ctrangles]

Similar but slightly different future situation.  American on work permit, Indian wife on dependent extension with schedule delivery of baby early next year in India.  Could baby enter Thailand on Indian passport with 60 day tourist visa, and then convert to Non Immigrant O, to be extended by 12 months after conversion.  If this is possible, would conversion/extension  be based on father's work permit/extension or on mother Non Imm O dependent status.  Thanks for any guidance.

[ubonjoe]

32 minutes ago, ctrangles said:

Similar but slightly different future situation.  American on work permit, Indian wife on dependent extension with schedule delivery of baby early next year in India.  Could baby enter Thailand on Indian passport with 60 day tourist visa, and then convert to Non Immigrant O, to be extended by 12 months after conversion.  If this is possible, would conversion/extension  be based on father's work permit/extension or on mother Non Imm O dependent status.  Thanks for any guidance.

A change of visa status to get a 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) could be done at immigration if the baby was on a tourist visa. But is would be best to get the non-o visa in India to save the time and etc to get it done at immigration.

It would be based upon the fathers extension of stay based upon working. The extension would be done to the date the fathers extension ends.