Thailand’s Supreme Court upholds Spaniard’s death sentence for murder

[Thomas J]

3 hours ago, ExpatLife said:

The vast majority of countries that use capital punishment have high murder snd crime rates, including the US.

Singapore has capital punishment and a very low rate. They use the tried and true method that criminals have a reasonable certainty of being apprehended, the punishment for crimes is severe, and carried out expeditiously.  The US has capital punishment in only 29 states.  Its effectiveness is muted because of lengthy appeals that often have those on death row dying of old age rather than execution. Last year in the USA only 25 people were executed.  

[Isaanbiker]

Will the POPE save him in the last minute?  ????

 

   

[Tarteso]

Pope first should save his Church

[Tony125]

4 hours ago, ExpatLife said:

Because as a nation they do not believe in capital punishment, which clearly is not a deterrent or beneficial to society as a whole. The vast majority of countries that use capital punishment have high murder snd crime rates, including the US. Nations that do not agree with it see lower murder and crime rates. I assume the Spanish officials do not agree with another country slaughtering one of their nationals, as it doesn't comply with their ideology and laws 

To all you anti death penalty advocates I say this, I don't care if it deters one single person from committing muder . I am just satisfied that this particular person who has caused painful and crule death will never get the satisfaction of killing anyone else.

[Docno]

5 hours ago, ExpatLife said:

... The vast majority of countries that use capital punishment have high murder snd crime rates, including the US. Nations that do not agree with it see lower murder and crime rates. ... 

Not sure what you're saying here, but I hope it's not that abolishing capital punishment leads to lower murder and crime rates. That wouldn't make sense. I'm curious about your source for this statement. The countries with the highest rates of execution are Iran, China, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Vietnam, and Singapore (relative to population). There are many nations in the world (in Africa and Latin America) with much higher murder rates than these, most of which don't execute people. China, Saudi Arabia, and Vietnam all have murder rates lower than Canada and France (for example). Singapore's murder rate is especially low, and it has been named (by Amnesty International) as the nation with the highest execution rate in the world (per population)… with a man to be executed there tomorrow at dawn. p.s. I'm personally opposed to capital punishment

[dotpoom]

8 hours ago, leeneeds said:

 

Circumstantial that was conclusive, 

this piece of garbage should have the ability to breath removed,

It does not equate to any justice for the victim. PERIOD!

When you're dead...no justice of any kind...can equate to that?

[Enki]

2 hours ago, Thomas J said:

Singapore has capital punishment and a very low rate. They use the tried and true method that criminals have a reasonable certainty of being apprehended, the punishment for crimes is severe, and carried out expeditiously.  The US has capital punishment in only 29 states.  Its effectiveness is muted because of lengthy appeals that often have those on death row dying of old age rather than execution. Last year in the USA only 25 people were executed.  

And every year about 5 or more are executed unjust. Which is often already known and made public by some truth hunters, but the "regime" kills them anyway, until a few years later a court decides: it was unjust, but the victim is already dead. No idea why you want to uphold the american <deleted> justice system.

 

[Catoni]

6 hours ago, ExpatLife said:

Because as a nation they do not believe in capital punishment, which clearly is not a deterrent or beneficial to society as a whole. The vast majority of countries that use capital punishment have high murder snd crime rates, including the US. Nations that do not agree with it see lower murder and crime rates. I assume the Spanish officials do not agree with another country slaughtering one of their nationals, as it doesn't comply with their ideology and laws 

Capital punishment WILL certainly deter the killer from ever killing again.

    I’ve yet to read about an executed killer who went on to kill again. Perhaps you know of a few who were not deterred by their execution.

     But over the years, I’ve read all kinds of cases where killers who were NOT executed went on to kill again. The most sickening were those who went on to murder little children. 

     The judges, juries and parole boards responsible for the monsters walking the streets should themselves face twenty years in prison. In general population. 

   

[Harveyg]

Just wondering.   Was any reason given for the murder?

[leeneeds]

3 hours ago, car720 said:

What you say is all true.  My question is who will decide who lives or dies?  You?

Far from it, I would not like to be a part of such a decision, it would have to be some independent body to consider all the facts and circumstances, but if no consensus could be reached then life without parole is a must no question.

[mogandave]

9 hours ago, ExpatLife said:

Because as a nation they do not believe in capital punishment, which clearly is not a deterrent or beneficial to society as a whole. The vast majority of countries that use capital punishment have high murder snd crime rates, including the US. Nations that do not agree with it see lower murder and crime rates. I assume the Spanish officials do not agree with another country slaughtering one of their nationals, as it doesn't comply with their ideology and laws 

Wow, wrong on about everything. 
 

it is absolutely a deterrent and as such it benefits society. 

[Fred white]

4 hours ago, Enki said:

And every year about 5 or more are executed unjust. Which is often already known and made public by some truth hunters, but the "regime" kills them anyway, until a few years later a court decides: it was unjust, but the victim is already dead. No idea why you want to uphold the american <deleted> justice system.

 

And what system is better one with some judges in fancy hats decide or one where a jury decides and then the decision appealed through numerous courts personally I would rather take my chances with a jury

[Destiny1990]

If he simply admits the crime will it then be half of a death sentence?

 

[mogandave]

7 hours ago, Enki said:

And every year about 5 or more are executed unjust. Which is often already known and made public by some truth hunters, but the "regime" kills them anyway, until a few years later a court decides: it was unjust, but the victim is already dead. No idea why you want to uphold the american <deleted> justice system.

 

 

for example? 

[gk10002000]

Interesting that Thailand plans to punish him for a crime against one of his country man.  Why would not Spain be involved, ask to extradite him, then try him

[Just Weird]

On 11/20/2019 at 2:50 PM, Wiggy said:

Testimonies from a saw blade and a freezer? Wow.

DNA testimonies are common and reliable usually.

[kiwikeith]

On 11/20/2019 at 9:00 PM, soalbundy said:

A bible verse from a murderer, he must have undergone a conversion while inside.

He was born converted

[sunnyboy2018]

22 hours ago, nickstav said:

Why would Spain want him back? He murdered a fellow Spaniard and mutilated his body in a gruesome way. The "circumstantial" evidence was quite conclusive. 

It might not want him back but are morally obliged to take him because the Thai penal system is inhuman, the Thai judicial system is not fit for purpose and is corrupt and Thailand is a medieval throw back which still has capital punishnent.

[sunnyboy2018]

7 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

Interesting that Thailand plans to punish him for a crime against one of his country man.  Why would not Spain be involved, ask to extradite him, then try him

When and where in the world has that ever happened? Nowhere,  never.

[Tomahawk21]

15 hours ago, Harveyg said:

Just wondering.   Was any reason given for the murder?

money

[essox essox]

23 hours ago, mike787 said:

LOSER!!!  Remove from gene pool...place him on a thai road at night wait for vehicle to speckle him all over road.

 a thai driver would probably MISS HIM  !!!

[traveller101]

15 hours ago, mogandave said:

Wow, wrong on about everything. 
 

it is absolutely a deterrent and as such it benefits society. 

Wrong again - at least in the US not supported by the cold hard facts on the ground. Quote:  "The murder rate in non-death penalty states has remained consistently lower than the rate in states with the death penalty and the gap has grown since 1990."   Data taken from FBI's Uniform Crime Reports

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/murder-rates/murder-rate-of-death-penalty-states-compared-to-non-death-penalty-stateshttps://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/murder-rates/murder-rate-of-death-penalty-states-compared-to-non-death-penalty-states

[Harveyg]

4 hours ago, Tomahawk21 said:

 

20 hours ago, Harveyg said:

Just wondering.   Was any reason given for the murder?

money

 

Wow.  This guy is way more than a loser.  He went down a very dark road. 

[Fred white]

10 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

It might not want him back but are morally obliged to take him because the Thai penal system is inhuman, the Thai judicial system is not fit for purpose and is corrupt and Thailand is a medieval throw back which still has capital punishnent.

If he committed the crime here then it would be up to Thailand to try him it shouldn't matter who he killed don't commit the crime if you can't do the time

[dcnx]

He should have fled and had a rich family.

[gk10002000]

20 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

When and where in the world has that ever happened? Nowhere,  never.

quite common to extradite a person for prosecution back in their home country.  a casual internet search returns numerous citizens extradited to their home countries, the USA in particular

[tominbkk]

Quality Euro tourist!

[mogandave]

On 11/22/2019 at 9:39 AM, traveller101 said:

Wrong again - at least in the US not supported by the cold hard facts on the ground. Quote:  "The murder rate in non-death penalty states has remained consistently lower than the rate in states with the death penalty and the gap has grown since 1990."   Data taken from FBI's Uniform Crime Reports

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/murder-rates/murder-rate-of-death-penalty-states-compared-to-non-death-penalty-stateshttps://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/murder-rates/murder-rate-of-death-penalty-states-compared-to-non-death-penalty-states

What does that prove? Nothing.

 

You could just as easily show countries that have the death penalty with lower murder rates.