90 day reporting - from date into BKk or date of visa extension?

[Andyfez]

I flew into Suvarnabhumi 24 october. But then extended my 'retirement' visa a month later.

Which date should I use for 90 day reporting?

Thanks

[jacko45k]

24th October. 

Only the first Extension is regarded as a 90 day report. 

[Andyfez]

Thanks Jacko

[tgeezer]

Many people see a report to Immigration as a report but Immigration don’t see it that way. I did and it cost me 2000THB one year, when I reported 90 days after extending which was 98 days after entering
What jacko45k says is logical if it is your first extension but there is room for interpretation in your post. 

 

[couchpotato]

31 minutes ago, tgeezer said:

Many people see a report to Immigration as a report but Immigration don’t see it that way. I did and it cost me 2000THB one year, when I reported 90 days after extending which was 98 days after entering
What jacko45k says is logical if it is your first extension but there is room for interpretation in your post. 

 

There is no room for interpretation!

Entry into the country is used for 90 day reporting, not extension of visa.

They are separate.

 

And in this case he was extending his Ret Visa (ie: he was already on a Ret Visa), so nothing to do with first extensions.

 

Jacko45k: you are also wrong I believe.  No extension is classified as a 90 day report, even for first extension. All 90 day reports are from last entry.

For example: I haven't been outside Thailand for 4 years, so had 3 extensions in that time, but my 90 days reporting still stems from my last entry 4 years ago.

 

When you get these rules messed up, that's when you have problems.

[tgeezer]

The room for interpretation is what was written in the post and only refers to my interpretation. “....extended my ‘retirement’ visa a month later”.   Calling an existing extension a visa is confusing on the other hand extending a visa for the first time after only one month of the permitted stay is unusual and so confusing. 

 

 The initial extension was always counted in the past as your landing date which I think is logical because some people are issued O visas in Thailand. 

[tinca tinca]

1 hour ago, tgeezer said:

Many people see a report to Immigration as a report but Immigration don’t see it that way. I did and it cost me 2000THB one year, when I reported 90 days after extending which was 98 days after entering
What jacko45k says is logical if it is your first extension but there is room for interpretation in your post. 

 

90 days starts from arrival date back into the country.....

[Mr Smithy]

Some immigration offices reset the 90 day report at the time of renewing an extension. My next report is due in Feb on the day my extension expires - less than 90 days! 

[SEtonal]

2 hours ago, couchpotato said:

Jacko45k: you are also wrong I believe.  No extension is classified as a 90 day report, even for first extension. All 90 day reports are from last entry.

He isn't the only one saying that.

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1142238-90-day-report-cw/?tab=comments#comment-14935252

[ubonjoe]

14 minutes ago, SEtonal said:

He isn't the only one saying that.

This from the immigration website. https://www.immigration.go.th/content/sv_90day

"5. The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days."

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, couchpotato said:

Jacko45k: you are also wrong I believe.  No extension is classified as a 90 day report,

And I believe not... but there is no harm trying to submit a 90 day report when one believes it is due. I will go further to say if one changes the reason for the extension, from say previously retirement to married to a Thai, that would be considered a new extension, and also be considered as a 90 day report.

See here  https://www.immigration.go.th/content/sv_90day

Check Item 5.

The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days.

 

[tgeezer]

59 minutes ago, Mr Smithy said:

Some immigration offices reset the 90 day report at the time of renewing an extension. My next report is due in Feb on the day my extension expires - less than 90 days! 

If your extension became a 90 day report how does that change the interval between reports to less than 90 days?   
I think it a good idea to count an extension as a report but only if people can understand that it only resets the clock and they are capable of keeping track of the process. I believe that Immigration have experience of people being incapable of doing that so to cater for them, there is a specific 90 day section. 

[Mr Smithy]

5 hours ago, tgeezer said:

If your extension became a 90 day report how does that change the interval between reports to less than 90 days?

An extension does not 'become' a 90 day report but in my case the period between my last report and the expiry of my extension is less that 90 days - and the reporting date reflects that fact.

[tgeezer]

7 hours ago, Mr Smithy said:

Some immigration offices reset the 90 day report at the time of renewing an extension. My next report is due in Feb on the day my extension expires - less than 90 days! 

I took this to mean that the office you report to ‘reset’ the 90 day report when you extended 365 days before the next extension you refer to.  That means that successive 90 day reports would occur at 90-180-270 and 360 days. I suppose that you are taking the dates that Immigration gave you and trying to rationalize them, this is a mistake. 

19 minutes ago, Mr Smithy said:

An extension does not 'become' a 90 day report but in my case the period between my last report and the expiry of my extension is less that 90 days - and the reporting date reflects that fact.

A 90 day report resets the report date in the same way as yours has been reset by the extension so they are effectively the same.

[steve187]

9 hours ago, couchpotato said:

There is no room for interpretation!

Entry into the country is used for 90 day reporting, not extension of visa.

They are separate.

 

And in this case he was extending his Ret Visa (ie: he was already on a Ret Visa), so nothing to do with first extensions.

 

Jacko45k: you are also wrong I believe.  No extension is classified as a 90 day report, even for first extension. All 90 day reports are from last entry.

For example: I haven't been outside Thailand for 4 years, so had 3 extensions in that time, but my 90 days reporting still stems from my last entry 4 years ago.

 

When you get these rules messed up, that's when you have problems.

first extension is classed as a 90 day report, mine was in Dec given a report date of Feb, my last entry was early Sept