17 hours ago, khunjeff said:

"Soon the biometrics system flagged up the fact that they were travelling on fake Turkish passports and were not a couple."

 

Biometrics cannot identify a fake passport, or the relationship status of a man and woman. The only way biometrics could possibly have helped would be if the fingerprints were found to be a match for people who had entered Thailand on different passports and claiming different spouses.

 

Yes, biometrics systems can very well identify a fake or spurious passport. There is a chip on a biometric passport with encrypted data stored on it which coincides with those on the passport's MRZ and the passport holder's fingerprints and facial scan. 

 

If both Basic Access Control (BAC) and Extended Access Control (EAC) authentication on the chip fails verification on the immigration system's chip scanner (in other words, if the chip can't be read) this is an indication that the passport could be fake.    

Edited January 11, 20206 yr by mvdf

I think it would be actually a lot worse then we realise.

 

Anyone who has worked in an office environment would have experienced just to organise a meeting is not straight forward. Let alone a press conference.

 

Just booking rooms, setting time, organising attendees blah, blah... uhmm working out purpose and structure of presentation, its aim, message. Okay let's not go that far.

 

Then to present what? Seriously.

On 1/10/2020 at 12:10 PM, Misterwhisper said:

After plenty of swining around in 2019, we are probably looking forward to a lot of ratting out in 2020.

I stand ready and willing to oblige sir.

A barstool expert told me recently that immigration are paying people who successfully supply them with tip-offs on the 1178 hotline.

 

I just don't know how true that is likely to be, but going on other government initiatives paying people who photograph motorcyclists riding on the pavement and get a share of the fine, perhaps it might be correct?

Laughable. Most were caught "leaving" Thailand?? So no one caught them coming in? Why would Thailand care if they were leaving? The other stories had nothing to do with the biometric system. They would have been caught anyway.

Good job again by immigration. Credit where credit is due. 

14 minutes ago, balo said:

Good job again by immigration. Credit where credit is due. 

My goodness.....

On 1/10/2020 at 10:40 AM, webfact said:

in which they praised their biometrics system and dismissed criticism from IB predecessor Lt-Gen Surachate "Big Joke" Hakparn. 

No mention of the incident involving said predecessor, guns and a massage parlour then? 

Very unflattering to show a photo of police under a headline Year of the Pig.  Is Year of the Rat going to belong to Big Joke?

In the next case on Boxing Day an Iranian travelling with his family was stopped using a fake French passport trying to enter Thailand. He admitted paying $5,000 for it (around 150,000 baht) and was attempting to go to Canada.

 

  I've met a foreigner who's dressed as a monkey and looked like onem with two fake passports from the bureau.

 

He wanted to fly to Canada but I've called the magic number and had Pinocchio on the phone! 

 

Now he looks like a pig to me, but the ones behind him even more. 

 

But I promise that I'll "take care of his girl friend", she' so cute. ( Please see photo, our honeymoon) 

 

   

The year of the pig. 

 

 

     

Edited January 12, 20206 yr by Isaanbiker

The biggest abuser of plastic ( Vinyl ) must be the immigration and RTP

19 hours ago, Toadie said:

I think it would be actually a lot worse then we realise.

 

Anyone who has worked in an office environment would have experienced just to organise a meeting is not straight forward. Let alone a press conference.

 

Just booking rooms, setting time, organising attendees blah, blah... uhmm working out purpose and structure of presentation, its aim, message. Okay let's not go that far.

 

Then to present what? Seriously.

Garibaldis or funny flavoured kitkat for the break isn't easy to get right either.

Edited January 12, 20206 yr by overherebc

It's indeed the year of the pig(s).

 

  I've just received the right amount of money by calling the number reporting an overstaying Farang to be able to pay for my overstay.

 

Does that make sense? Even if it doesn't, who cares? TIT !!! 

 

  Happy New Year 2020 !

On 1/10/2020 at 11:05 AM, Somtamnication said:

With the guy on the left, now I know where some of that revenue is feeding.

Ain't nothin' wrong with livin' high off the hog, John-boy!

On 1/10/2020 at 7:17 PM, Yadon Toploy said:

Continuously trying to justify why billions were spent on catching petty criminals so they could all get their little piggy snouts in the trough.

 

Meanwhile, in other news, alleged corruption in procurement of the biometric system seems to be taking a back stage... wonder why?

 

It's like absolutely everything here, mired in greed and corruption and devoid of ethics and morality. 

 

The statistic that never gets reported is the number of bad guys who chose not to come to Thailand in the first place- aware of the new biometric system, increasing their odds of being caught out.

 

Corruption at the government level always takes back stage.  Get over it, or you'll be miserable in SEA.

 

Edit:  I'd add that, compared to back home, Thai politicians are amateurs when it comes to fleecing the taxpayers.  The big difference is that they've legalized it back home.  Even protected under the 1st amendment in the USA.  You know- corporations are people, too...

 

Edited January 12, 20206 yr by impulse

On 1/12/2020 at 2:19 AM, scoutman360 said:

Laughable. Most were caught "leaving" Thailand?? So no one caught them coming in? Why would Thailand care if they were leaving? The other stories had nothing to do with the biometric system. They would have been caught anyway.

Arrive on their own genuine passport VOA or VE and fake passport in their hip pocket that may have a fake Thai entry stamp and maybe a fake UK/USA visa already in it. No-one tells them about computer records or Bio' systems. 99.999% of these guys are not criminal master minds, they think Bio' is something to do with washing powder.

Criminal masterminds have, most likely, a couple of other genuine passports.

On 1/10/2020 at 11:39 AM, SueOriginal said:

So, roughly 35 persons per day are turned off because of lack of funds, return ticket or "being too long in Thailand" or suspicion that they work there

You can bet nearly all single men. Take note chancers.

7 hours ago, overherebc said:

Arrive on their own genuine passport VOA or VE and fake passport in their hip pocket that may have a fake Thai entry stamp and maybe a fake UK/USA visa already in it. No-one tells them about computer records or Bio' systems. 99.999% of these guys are not criminal master minds, they think Bio' is something to do with washing powder.

Criminal masterminds have, most likely, a couple of other genuine passports.

One can only have one genuine passport, others are forgeries or anything else if not issued in recognised legal name supported by other leagally recognised documents.
one can have only one legal name at a time. 

5 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

One can only have one genuine passport, others are forgeries or anything else if not issued in recognised legal name supported by other leagally recognised documents.
one can have only one legal name at a time. 

This is a straightforward question:

If someone has dual citizenship and therefore a passport for each country, what happens if they change their name by deed poll in only one country?

Could they then have two passports in different names legally?

7 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

One can only have one genuine passport, others are forgeries or anything else if not issued in recognised legal name supported by other leagally recognised documents.
one can have only one legal name at a time. 

If one has plenty of folding beer tokens ( cash ) one can buy legal citizenship and get oneself a legal passport in many countries. Most of the places that will let one buy citizenship and supply one with a passport will not ask one where one got the money.

????????????

9 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

This is a straightforward question:

If someone has dual citizenship and therefore a passport for each country, what happens if they change their name by deed poll in only one country?

Could they then have two passports in different names legally?

Most places will note in the passport something on the lines of ' previously travelled in the the name xxxx'.

However it's not impossible to get 'good' supporting documents for a passport in a new name.  $$$$ is the key. ????

Edited January 13, 20206 yr by overherebc

10 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Most places will note in the passport something on the lines of ' previously travelled in the the name xxxx'.

However it's not impossible to get 'good' supporting documents for a passport in a new name.  $$$$ is the key. ????

Legal?

21 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Most places will note in the passport something on the lines of ' previously travelled in the the name xxxx'.

However it's not impossible to get 'good' supporting documents for a passport in a new name.  $$$$ is the key. ????

OK.

So I'd assume Michael Caine's passport says 'previously travelled in the name Maurice Miicklewhite', as he changed his name by deed poll. Immigration worldwide wouldn't believe the name he was born with and found it easier to change it to his stage name.

 

Edited January 13, 20206 yr by bluesofa

17 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

OK.

So I'd assume Michael Caine's passport says 'previously travelled in the name Maurice Miicklewhite', as he changed his name by deed poll. Immigration worldwide wouldn't believe the name he was born with and found it easier to change it to his stage name.

 

I would honestly think his passport says Micklewhite same as his birth certicate with Mr Caine added.

Edited January 13, 20206 yr by overherebc

18 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Legal?

Legal or not is debatable. eg is the passport Mr T uses to travel the world legal, can't remember the nationality. His Thai passport was cancelled? so I think the point is the difference between an original passport and a passport knocked up by a forger or a stolen passport with some changes made.

Year of the Pig doesn't end for another twelve days.

 

Surprised no-one here picked up on that for a Thai  bash opportunity.

Good if it works. How about cleaning up the streets of Thailand of all the tatooed trouble makers, outlaw biker mafia criminals and the other scammers or drug peddlars who are openly mocking the Police and Thai society ?

6 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

Good if it works. How about cleaning up the streets of Thailand of all the tatooed trouble makers, outlaw biker mafia criminals and the other scammers or drug peddlars who are openly mocking the Police and Thai society ?

How about flying to the moon on a 500baht budget. ????????????

3 minutes ago, overherebc said:

How about flying to the moon on a 500baht budget. ????????????

Only if it's in business class????

15 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

Good if it works. How about cleaning up the streets of Thailand of all the tatooed trouble makers, outlaw biker mafia criminals and the other scammers or drug peddlars who are openly mocking the Police and Thai society ?

That would result in TVF closing down then.