14 minutes ago, stevenl said:

See fbi, cia, Muller, senate and Congress committees.

Proven that Russia influenced the election.

 

And please refrain from changing the argument.

Again, you can't say how, where or why it effected the election results in any meaningful way with anything other than "they influenced the election" 

 

Russia has been trying to influence elections for decades, why is it all about just this one? Because you don't like the results? 

 

You have to do better than this. Or you could just keep up the fantasy to keep the narrative going. 

1 hour ago, Chiphigh said:

Well now, there is certainly a lot of vitriol there. 

 

Mike lacks one important thing, a personality that people can get behind and a clear list of policies that have actually worked. 

 

Now que the TDS symphony for the next round of insults...... 

Oh yes, that TDS thing. TDS. Trump (consistently) deceives his supporters.

3 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

1. Russia has been trying to influence elections before, what makes this past one any different? Are you insinuating the election is not legitimate? Yes or no? 

 

2.it is likely? What Kind of factual reference is that? "it can't be calculated" is the same as it is not a valid point. And it isn't 

 

3 Mueller report specifically stated there was no collusion, in fact he stated that the trump team refused to on several occasions. THAT IS A FACT. 

https://apnews.com/7b7d698b9a660997f5e755d92b775d98

1. So It's not a hoax, there was interference, right? How do you know it was at the same level before? Sources?

2. It's likely as Clinton's poll scores declined after that. I will not argue much about it because, as I said, It's impossible to calculate it.

3. You are not well informed

https://www.politico.eu/article/mueller-refutes-trumps-no-collusion-no-obstruction-line/

29 minutes ago, Muzarella said:

Bloomberg is the best Democratic candidate the party had since Obama, even better, specially for the USA´s economy. Just because he do not need the Presidency to get rich. I hope this time Americans will chose with common sense, because our World is going to a destruction in every way possible. All the evidences did shows that Trump´s fortune in 2016 was not more than 1 billion....with the same in debts. It was also probed that Trump did not used his own money for the campaign. If now his fortune is estimated in 3 billions, guess what was Trump´s interest in becoming the President of the richest country in the world.

Can you please provide factual reference to the claims you have made here? 

 

Gonna need more than "it has been probed" 

9 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

1. Russia has been trying to influence elections before, what makes this past one any different? Are you insinuating the election is not legitimate? Yes or no? 

 

2.it is likely? What Kind of factual reference is that? "it can't be calculated" is the same as it is not a valid point. And it isn't 

 

3 Mueller report specifically stated there was no collusion, in fact he stated that the trump team refused to on several occasions. THAT IS A FACT. 

https://apnews.com/7b7d698b9a660997f5e755d92b775d98

Your source is a Washington Times right wing hit piece. You call that fact? Too funny. 

10 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

1. Russia has been trying to influence elections before, what makes this past one any different? Are you insinuating the election is not legitimate? Yes or no? 

 

2.it is likely? What Kind of factual reference is that? "it can't be calculated" is the same as it is not a valid point. And it isn't 

 

3 Mueller report specifically stated there was no collusion, in fact he stated that the trump team refused to on several occasions. THAT IS A FACT. 

https://apnews.com/7b7d698b9a660997f5e755d92b775d98

If you want to link to the Muller report please do so. Yours is a link to an interpretation of the report.

8 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

Again, you can't say how, where or why it effected the election results in any meaningful way with anything other than "they influenced the election" 

 

Russia has been trying to influence elections for decades, why is it all about just this one? Because you don't like the results? 

 

You have to do better than this. Or you could just keep up the fantasy to keep the narrative going. 

Feel free to disagree with fbi, cia, Muller, Senate and Congress committees.

5 minutes ago, candide said:

1. So It's not a hoax, there was interference, right? How do you know it was at the same level before? Sources?

2. It's likely as Clinton's poll scores declined after that. I will not argue much about it because, as I said, It's impossible to calculate it.

3. You are not well informed

https://www.politico.eu/article/mueller-refutes-trumps-no-collusion-no-obstruction-line/

The hoax Comes from ridiculous assertions that it effected the outcome or that he was fostering it. 

 

There was no collusion, in fact there was push back, that is in the Mueller report. 

 

You can deny it until the end of time. After a reelection what will you do with this level of denial? 

 

I'll wager you will also claim that the Russians made it happen. Either way, you are entitled to your opinions. It just seems counterproductive. 

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

If you want to link to the Muller report please do so. Yours is a link to an interpretation of the report.

Also it was deceptive. Washington Times is the Fox news of DC newspapers. Not everyone knows that. Many people see the name Washington and connect that with something of substance. 

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Feel free to disagree with fbi, cia, Muller, Senate and Congress committees.

Again, not one of those sources can quantify any actual influence on the vote. So if you want to believe that he was elected unfairly, you will. Even though you can't provide any data to back it up. 

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Also it was deceptive. Washington Times is the Fox news of DC newspapers. Not everyone knows that. Many people see the name Washington and connect that with something of substance. 

So the NY times and the wapo are your only bastions of non biased reporting? 

 

That is convenient for a left of center individual 

Scaramucci belives both Biden and Bloomberg can defeat trump in 2020. Great interview:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/anthony-scaramucci-on-donald-trump-2020-presidential-race-164938605.html

Edited January 24, 20206 yr by earlinclaifornia
grammar

8 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

The hoax Comes from ridiculous assertions that it effected the outcome or that he was fostering it. 

 

There was no collusion, in fact there was push back, that is in the Mueller report. 

 

You can deny it until the end of time. After a reelection what will you do with this level of denial? 

 

I'll wager you will also claim that the Russians made it happen. Either way, you are entitled to your opinions. It just seems counterproductive. 

It may be clear for you, but when Trump uses the word hoax, he also includes Russian interference in it, as his obsession for the Ukrainian Crowdstrike confirms.

About the impact of the interference, as I said, I will not argue about it because it cannot be calculated. Did it affect one voter or one million voters, nobody knows.

 

Mueller never said or wrote there was no collusion, he justbstated he did not find enough evidence of it.

Edited January 24, 20206 yr by candide

4 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

So the NY times and the wapo are your only bastions of non biased reporting? 

 

That is convenient for a left of center individual 

Where do you get your news?  From Trump?  Lordy.  No human being alive lies like Trump.

11 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Where do you get your news?  From Trump?  Lordy.  No human being alive lies like Trump.

Except every Democrat and their slimeball friends at CNN MNSBC NYT WP etc. 

13 hours ago, webfact said:

 

Bloomberg shot back on Twitter: "It shouldn't be this easy to distract the President of the United States."

 

And yet it is. 

9 hours ago, Tug said:

Maybe our him to much money?

This is not my post mine got censored (weird)anyway I’ll try again I find it ironic trump calling mike Bloomberg a clown trump has a comic appearance and personality as well with the exception that in his position as potus it becomes serious he imo indangers every living thing on our planet

13 hours ago, webfact said:

It is unclear why Trump thinks Bloomberg would renege on his pledge to spend heavily to help the Democrats beat Trump in the November presidential election even if Bloomberg is not the eventual candidate.

Because trump chooses what he wants to believe regardless of reality, facts or the truth. 

5 minutes ago, chokrai said:

18 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Where do you get your news?  From Trump?  Lordy.  No human being alive lies like Trump.

Except every Democrat and their slimeball friends at CNN MNSBC NYT WP etc. 

No, there is no "except."  Trump lies more than any human being I've ever seen.

13 hours ago, webfact said:

It is unclear why Trump thinks...

Yup, that just about sums it up.

A conspiracy post has been removed. 

51 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

Again, not one of those sources can quantify any actual influence on the vote. So if you want to believe that he was elected unfairly, you will. Even though you can't provide any data to back it up. 

Which was not your claim, the one I reacted to. You're changing the goal posts during the game.

Trump is only a fraction of the man Bloomberg is-Donny must have gotten picked on wicked bad as a child, so he’s taking it out on people now-man child poster boy 

Edited January 24, 20206 yr by Redline

57 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

The hoax Comes from ridiculous assertions that it effected the outcome or that he was fostering it. 

 

There was no collusion, in fact there was push back, that is in the Mueller report. 

 

You can deny it until the end of time. After a reelection what will you do with this level of denial? 

 

I'll wager you will also claim that the Russians made it happen. Either way, you are entitled to your opinions. It just seems counterproductive. 

No, the trump hoax is that russia meddled. He believes putin over his own agencies.

 

A factually wrong post from a trump supporter. No shock.

 

Mueller found instances of collusion but it did not rise to the level of the crime of conspiracy because don jnr and friends were considered too dumb to know.

Bloomberg:  Tax the poor so they can't afford to buy sugary drinks.

 

 

Trump, who has a propensity for coining derisive nicknames for his political rivals, recently began referring to Bloomberg as "Mini Mike," a reference to the former mayor's height of about 5 feet, 8 inches (1.72 meters). Trump is several inches taller.

 

The President of the United States has the level of a pubescent, 12-year-old schoolyard bully. 

All I have to say is that it is going to be interesting to see if Bloomberg picks up any delegates on super tuesday. That's all that really matters. That, and if there might still any other potential latecomers to the race.

 

 

Winning!!!

 

America's local economy keeps shrinking

 

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Growth slowed for local economies virtually everywhere in the U.S. last year, and is declining again at the start of this year as consumers pare back spending and business growth stalls.

 

13 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Classic bully tactic and quite childish.  One thing I've noticed is that Trump would never insult Putin about his height, even though Putin is even shorter than Bloomberg.  Wonder why that is? 

And I doubt that Putin would stoop so low as to use the tactic of school-yard name calling.

 

The world is watching and must be having a great laugh (at Trump).

11 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Where do you get your news?  From Trump?  Lordy.  No human being alive lies like Trump.

So you are the intellectual standard of where information is deemed to be acceptable? 

That is quite convenient for you