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1 minute ago, glennb6 said:

a surgical mask is meant to keep surgeons, nurses, etc from spreading any germs OUT of their mouth onto susceptible patients - not to prevent intake of germs. an n95 grade mask that seals around the mouth and nose (similar to a snorkel fitting) would be considered effective. however most people have a habit of rubbing their eyes, picking their nose, putting their fingers on their lips and in their month and if they've touched an infected surface, well...

 

but a standard face mask you see people wearing all the time will make most people FEEL they are ok.

Also a reminder to be careful about hand to mouth/nose contact when out and about. Washing hands carefully when you can and avoiding the hand/mouth contact until you are back home with a good scrub is good practice. 

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In this sense, nCoV-2019 is novel — and possibly even more dangerous to humans than the other coronaviruses. I say “possibly” because so far, not only do we not know how dangerous it is, we can’t know. 

 

We are faced with two mortal challenges, in the short term and the long term. Short term: We must do everything we can, with intelligence, calm and a full commitment of resources, to contain and extinguish this nCoV-2019 outbreak before it becomes, as it could, a devastating global pandemic. Long term: We must remember, when the dust settles, that nCoV-2019 was not a novel event or a misfortune that befell us. It was — it is — part of a pattern of choices that we humans are making.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/28/opinion/coronavirus-china.html

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4 hours ago, webfact said:

As things stand, the main symptoms are fever and respiratory signs such as coughing or shortness of breath.

Given that most of Thailand is a retched smog covered mess at the moment will anyone really be able to identify the Corona-Virus from anyone else struggling to breath around here?

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3 hours ago, CLW said:

I heard western experts opposing to point #6.

 

The virus can be already spread from persons with non-symptomatic signs e.g. during the incubation period.

 

Anyone else? 

Absolutely

It is confirmed from Webasto, a German Company and from the German Health authorities that the 33y old guy got the virus from a Chinese woman which was the leader of a training event in the Webasto facility in Germany. That is new as the woman did not show any symptoms. Just when she fly back she developed symptoms during the flight.

The disturbing fact is that every report I read stated that "it is not proved yet whether the virus can be transmitted from people without symptoms"

So the hospital which posted that FAQ knows it better. (point no.: 6)- Everything under control of course. But the German case teach us otherwise.

 

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7 hours ago, glennb6 said:

a surgical mask is meant to keep surgeons, nurses, etc from spreading any germs OUT of their mouth onto susceptible patients - not to prevent intake of germs. an n95 grade mask that seals around the mouth and nose (similar to a snorkel fitting) would be considered effective. however most people have a habit of rubbing their eyes, picking their nose, putting their fingers on their lips and in their month and if they've touched an infected surface, well...

 

but a standard face mask you see people wearing all the time will make most people FEEL they are ok.

didn't say surgical mask, did I ???? I said the same that will give you some protection from flu viruses, cos this is the same - it is from the same family 

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7 hours ago, glennb6 said:

a surgical mask is meant to keep surgeons, nurses, etc from spreading any germs OUT of their mouth onto susceptible patients - not to prevent intake of germs. an n95 grade mask that seals around the mouth and nose (similar to a snorkel fitting) would be considered effective. however most people have a habit of rubbing their eyes, picking their nose, putting their fingers on their lips and in their month and if they've touched an infected surface, well...

 

but a standard face mask you see people wearing all the time will make most people FEEL they are ok.

If reusing an n95 mask, it might become a source of infection in itself. I think it's difficult, if not impossible to clean or disinfect it. And a new mask every day might cost a bit to much...

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11 hours ago, webfact said:

As it stands, a non-symptomatic person cannot transmit the virus.

 Dunno when the OP was written. But recent research developments have clearly shown the above quoted statement is, and never was, correct.

 

Medical authorities now say the virus CAN be contagious during the incubation period prior to symptoms surfacing.

 

The hospital needs to correct/update their document!'

 

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11 hours ago, webfact said:

To date, no specific treatment has been identified for this new coronavirus, treatment is symptomatic. 

 

This also isn't exactly correct, depending on how you interpret the meaning.

 

AFAIK, the Chinese and others are currently using and researching the use of a couple of anti-HIV medications made by Abbvie as treatments / potential treatments. So yes, specific treatments HAVE been identified. Just how effective they're going to be, only time will tell.

 

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2 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

If reusing an n95 mask, it might become a source of infection in itself. I think it's difficult, if not impossible to clean or disinfect it. And a new mask every day might cost a bit to much...

 

The typical N95 masks are meant to be temporary use and disposable, then replaced by a new mask. The disposable ones you don't clean or disinfect.

 

And, the protocol for using the masks correctly, which hopefully wearers have educated themselves about, is that you're not supposed to touch the outside of the mask with your hands. And you are supposed to wash/clean your hands thoroughly after any potential exposure via a worn mask or anything else.

 

One problem for Thailand right now, which the government has been typically silent on, is that N95 masks are in very short supply AKA almost impossible to find and buy. So depending on how long this virus episode goes on for, people may start running out of their mask supplies at home and be unable to resupply them.

 

It's not just Thailand in that regard, though. In checking yesterday, N95 masks from legitimate vendors (as opposed to unknown vendors selling potential counterfeits) were hard to find on Amazon U.S. and several U.S. safety equipment suppliers I checked that are authorized vendors for 3M also were back-ordered on a variety of N95 mask versions.

 

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7 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 Dunno when the OP was written. But recent research developments have clearly shown the above quoted statement is, and never was, correct.

 

Medical authorities now say the virus CAN be contagious during the incubation period prior to symptoms surfacing.

 

The hospital needs to correct/update their document!'

 

Medical authorities often use "can" in a theoretical way and for legal reasons they speak broadly and ultra-conservative.

 

Whereas an infectious disease specialist may tell you "it theoretically can, but it actually does not."

 

It is probably to early to know now.

 

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19 hours ago, Haecksler said:

Samitivej Hospital

Absolutely

It is confirmed from Webasto, a German Company and from the German Health authorities that the 33y old guy got the virus from a Chinese woman which was the leader of a training event in the Webasto facility in Germany. That is new as the woman did not show any symptoms. Just when she fly back she developed symptoms during the flight.

The disturbing fact is that every report I read stated that "it is not proved yet whether the virus can be transmitted from people without symptoms"

So the hospital which posted that FAQ knows it better. (point no.: 6)- Everything under control of course. But the German case teach us otherwise.

 

Just heard in the news that this company is doing a logical step and closing down their facilities for a certain period of time until it is clear if anyone else has been infected.

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