Heard there will be a sale on in Food hall. That would please many in here I assume

1 hour ago, Yadon Toploy said:

His beefs are fairly obvious given the disparity in wealth and level of corruption, and are well documented on his Facebook account prior to and during his rampage. He felt helpless.

 

Looking further, the difficult and worsening economic situation, the political situation, seperatist movement in the South... a lot of people under pressure, feeling helpless with no way out... it's going to get worse.

 

Thailand is a powderkeg at the moment.

 

Don't hold your breath but this might be a catalyst for real change. Many Thais are completely shocked by this and there's growing dissatisfaction with this sham of a government.

None of the above. Guy got ripped off in a land deal, his boss and others took him for 50k baht. Went out for revenge and flipped. No SJW here.

 

Some mitigation is that soldiers are trained to kill and are fired up for it. If they don't see real action, they tend to find it elsewhere. Just acting out his brainwashing training.

 

 

Edited February 9, 20206 yr by DannyCarlton

7 minutes ago, neeray said:

Steven100, I am well aware of your fondness of this army government. I am a strong believer in anecdotes and what I'm hearing is many Thais are saying things like "what has happened to Thailand since Prayut took charge in 2014?".

Don't ask for a link. This is anecdotal. It is directly from the mouth of Thais. Perhaps you are in the elite crowd who see it differently.

oh yes ....  the government caused Coronavirus, the government caused the mass shooting in Korat, the government caused everything you don't like about thailand. 

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1 minute ago, steven100 said:

oh yes ....  the government caused Coronavirus, the government caused the mass shooting in Korat, the government caused everything you don't like about thailand. 

You're right, the government didn't cause any of those problems....they just made them a whole lot worse.

3 minutes ago, fourpack said:

Erm Face book is social media

So who's missing the point. Maybe you dont get Thai feeds on yours?

for the final time ... please show me where on FB or social media where everyone is blaming the government. 

49 minutes ago, steven100 said:

oh yes ....  the government caused Coronavirus, the government caused the mass shooting in Korat, the government caused everything you don't like about thailand. 

We are discussing a mass slaughter by big army guns, not coronavirus.

There isn't much I don't like about Thailand. But I do have a problem with self-appointed (and anointed) "governments" who take control with tanks and guns under the auspices of peace and then illegitimately elect themselves to run the country.

16 hours ago, YetAnother said:

bbc has to report this first ?

Thats where I read it first !! Where was ThaiVisa ??

Behind the smiles there a many angry Thais being

ripped off and barely surviving.

7 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

Behind the smiles there a many angry Thais being

ripped off and barely surviving.

Correct; and many of the Thai's i used to see smiling don't do it as often as they used to.  Just quote to any of them what Prayut said ..''I want to return happiness to the people''  and see what they say ?   I can tell you it's not very complimentary !

How social and mainstream media failed us during the Korat mass shooting

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The digital age  

Within minutes of the massacre, multiple live-streams were broadcast – from official news channels to unofficial live-streams from within and outside of the mall. Hundreds of thousands of people tuned in to watch. News broke – across Twitter, of course – that the shooter was using a hostage’s phone to watch the live-streams and track the movements of the authorities and other bystanders in the mall.

The revolution will not be televised, but the massacre will be live-streamed.

 

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/7609/how-social-and-mainstream-media-failed-us-during-the-korat-mass-shooting/

very good read

Edited February 9, 20206 yr by phuketrichard

2 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

None of the above. Guy got ripped off in a land deal, his boss and others took him for 50k baht. Went out for revenge and flipped. No SJW here.

 

Some mitigation is that soldiers are trained to kill and are fired up for it. If they don't see real action, they tend to find it elsewhere. Just acting out his brainwashing training.

 

 

He expressed extreme anger towards the wealthy in general before launching an attack on a shopping mall which attracts many middle and upper income customers. He also live streamed his killing spree in a manner similar to the NZ mosque shooter who was  politically motivated. There may have been an event which triggered his rampage, but I think there's unmistakable political elements to his actions.

8 minutes ago, phuketrichard said:

How social and mainstream media failed us during the Korat mass shooting

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/7609/how-social-and-mainstream-media-failed-us-during-the-korat-mass-shooting/

very good read

An interesting article, but I did find the like and share banners at the end a little ironic

 

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

for the final time ... please show me where on FB or social media where everyone is blaming the government. 

For the final time open your eyes and read post from real Thai's And there feelings Twd's him. You are obviously blind to all who point you in the direction to read. As has been said maybe your Thai counterparts are loyal government lackies.

But I you are really saying you don't see or hear the tunneling of the masses then there's not much point in trying to point you Ted's it is there.

 

6 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

He expressed extreme anger towards the wealthy in general before launching an attack on a shopping mall which attracts many middle and upper income customers. He also live streamed his killing spree in a manner similar to the NZ mosque shooter who was  politically motivated. There may have been an event which triggered his rampage, but I think there's unmistakable political elements to his actions.

He posted his anger towards the wealthy who had ripped him off, not the wealthy in general. He also didnt live stream the actual killing like the NZ shooting, he posted and live streamed selfies and comments.

 

 

"but he did not say for what.

 

'IT APPEARS HE WENT MAD'

 

"We don't know why he did this. It appears he went mad," Defence Ministry spokesman Kongcheep Tantrawanit told Reuters."

 

In his Facebook page he said clearly why he's doing this. Because of corruption and he mentioned "they can't spend their money in hell"

 

But what I don't understand if he make a statement, why to shoot innocent people who he doesn't know at all.

I thought after he shot first one at army base he went kind of shock and maniac state. 

 

I feel very sad for the dead and their families, I pray strength for the families and friends whom lost their loved ones. 

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5 hours ago, metisdead said:

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Apologies. Wasn't aware about the policy re BKK Post as its been 15 years since I returned to contribute. Will keep this in mind for future contributions. Thanks for the heads up.

4 hours ago, Yadon Toploy said:

His beefs are fairly obvious given the disparity in wealth and level of corruption, and are well documented on his Facebook account prior to and during his rampage. He felt helpless.

 

Looking further, the difficult and worsening economic situation, the political situation, seperatist movement in the South... a lot of people under pressure, feeling helpless with no way out... it's going to get worse.

 

Thailand is a powderkeg at the moment.

 

Don't hold your breath but this might be a catalyst for real change. Many Thais are completely shocked by this and there's growing dissatisfaction with this sham of a government.

I agree with your assessment that rural Thailand is a powderkeg right now and the pressure is coming from almost every angle.

 

Chain stores and big box retailers are severely undercutting mom and pop retailers. Mechanization is cutting into the demand for farm labor. Farm incomes are being decimated by drought, ground water shortages, and invasive farm pests like the fall army worm. Personal incomes have not kept up with rising food costs.

 

In good times, the labor markets in the agricultural and tourism sectors compliment one another as farm labor could supplement their farm incomes during the winter months by finding employment in tourist areas. But right now not only are farm incomes down, but seasonal employment opportunities in tourism are down as well.

 

The government has done little if anything to improve the public rural education system so opportunities to escape rural hardship through educational advancement are few and far between. Many young men in rural Thailand not only feel very few opportunities are open to them, but they are also struggling to form households and provide for their families. In many areas, women are more apt to move to urban areas in search of educational and job opportunities, leaving young rural men struggling to find a girlfriend or a wife.

 

Last, but by no means least, the government's efforts to stigmatize Thailand's red light entertainment industry has resulted in lower incomes, lower overseas remittances and capital investments by foreign men who became romantically involved with Thai women, and fewer opportunities to move and live abroad. Regardless of how you may feel about Thailand's entertainment industry, the socioeconomic impact on rural Thailand of these government policies is undeniable.

 

When you add all these changes up, you are indeed talking about a powderkeg.

 

I would say he was in debt as many are and his commander shafting him of 50,000 baht broker fee tipped the scales and he went ' off the rails ' so to speak. 

nothing more nothing less  .....

it's got absolutely nothing to do with the US or the thai government so any connection is nonsense.

He went berserk and that's that.  imo

18 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

You can see that all our senior officers of the government have been assigned here," Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul told reporters....

Then why are there no photographs of the Prime Minister and his Watchkeeper?

7 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Even the TAT will have a hard job spinning this. Whatever chance the Thai tourism had this year, that's the last nail in the coffin

Does not scare me...

 

This could have happened almost any country in the world, most people in the shopping mall got out alive, of the fatalities how many were shoot in the mall excluding security forces? and how many thousands would have been in the mall at 18:00 on a Saturday afternoon?

 

So where would you recommend that would be safer??? USA???

Just now, Basil B said:

Does not scare me...

 

This could have happened almost any country in the world, most people in the shopping mall got out alive, of the fatalities how many were shoot in the mall excluding security forces? and how many thousands would have been in the mall at 18:00 on a Saturday afternoon?

 

So where would you recommend that would be safer??? USA???

Won’t stop me either. As you have stated, it’s a unfortunate incident that unfortunately could happen anywhere. Time to heal now. 

14 hours ago, Brewster67 said:

Wife's cousin has now been freed by special forces after a 7 hour ordeal she will likely be haunted by for the rest of her days.

 

Up to now the death tally is 21, you really have to gasp at the irony it happened in a shopping mall called 'Terminal 21'.

 

RIP.

I hope the wife's cousin is ok after such a terrifying ordeal. She will have to try to put this horrible experience behind her and move on. I hope everyone else in your family is good and not near the mall.

23 minutes ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Then why are there no photographs of the Prime Minister and his Watchkeeper?

It has been stated on the BBC the PM has been visiting the injured in hospital...

 

 

52 minutes ago, Basil B said:

It has been stated on the BBC the PM has been visiting the injured in hospital...

 

 

As I personally have never met anyone that actually voted for him, I wouldnt imagine they would be too pleased to see him !

8 minutes ago, les Dennis said:

As I personally have never met anyone that actually voted for him, I wouldnt imagine they would be too pleased to see him !

I do not care what ever people think about him, he is representing a country that is feeling for them...

Edited February 9, 20206 yr by Basil B

7 minutes ago, les Dennis said:

1 hour ago, Basil B said:

It has been stated on the BBC the PM has been visiting the injured in hospital...

 

 

As I personally have never met anyone that actually voted for him, I wouldnt imagine they would be too pleased to see him !

Ok, so he would be wrong not to visit the injured, but he's wrong if he does. Got it

6 minutes ago, les Dennis said:

As I personally have never met anyone that actually voted for him, I wouldnt imagine they would be too pleased to see him !

Don't know where you come from, but I bet you NEVER voted a PM into office!

Or for that matter, a government.

Or any minister.

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