Democrats demand probe of Trump role in Stone case; Republicans unmoved

[Chiphigh]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Right, so the US AG routinely reviews and approves prosecutor sentencing recommendations in individual cases?!

 

Of course he does not.

 

He responded to Trump’s tweet like the good lapdog he is.

If you are paying attention, the doj was not agreeing with the harsh sentencing a WEEK before any comments made by the potus. These out of control prosecutors are the biased and political. 

[Chiphigh]

4 hours ago, Mavideol said:

Putin is fighting hard trying to change Russia's constitution to be president/dictator for life, he's following Chinese Xi Ji Ping steps and Trumps is trying to copy both of them

More emotional rants. 

[Chiphigh]

3 hours ago, Opl said:

Trump followers would actually prefer to live under an authoritarian regime ( Trump - elected by a minority : " I have absolute right to do what I want with D.O.J" 12/29/2017)

More dramatics and emotional rants based on nothing. 

[Chiphigh]

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why don't you mention any details?

The Stone case is all over the press and it's obvious that something very bad is happening there.

If you think there are other cases which are important just publish them.

 

I know one of those cases the GOP always brings up is Hunter Biden. I don't know if he is guilty or not and if he is guilty then he should obviously be prosecuted and punished. It seems the GOP speak about him at least since a year. So I would guess they would have investigated him and his actions at least since a year. So what did they find? If he is guilty why is there no court case going on against him? 

And why is Hunter important? Is he running for president or any other public job? Or should all the relatives from all politicians be scrutinized?

You can pretend that McCabe didn't lie to congress, you can pretend Brennan didn't lie to congress, you can pretend comey didn't lie to congress. 

 

But they did. On Camera. And yet they walk free. 

 

Partisan targeted prosecution seems to be only appropriate for the left. 

 

It is going to backfire in spectacular fashion. 

[Tug]

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think the worst thing about all this is not really Trump. There are idiots in every country.

But how it is possible that people still support that guy? And lots of those people want that he will be reelected to do more damage in the following 4 years.

 

What kind of people would want to have a leader like that?

 

And this is not about politics. The GOP could easily have a healthy and competent candidate for the presidential election this year. People could have the choice between presidential candidates from different parties who all follow the law and who don't behave like crazy. GOP politicians could change this, right now. If they don't do anything and let the orange one continue like this then Trump is not really to blame. The masses who support him are the problem.

Imo it’s the way trump relies on partisanship and his info lying news bs he Pitts us against each other and relying on raw emotional support many Americans don’t think through how they are beeing used and quite frankly some are to stupid to know the difference as a side note some posters imo are possibly payed some stripend to post negative things and creat the illusion trump is right 

[OneMoreFarang]

18 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

You can pretend that McCabe didn't lie to congress, you can pretend Brennan didn't lie to congress, you can pretend comey didn't lie to congress. 

 

But they did. On Camera. And yet they walk free. 

 

Partisan targeted prosecution seems to be only appropriate for the left. 

 

It is going to backfire in spectacular fashion. 

Come on, bring some details.

It's pretty obvious about what Trump and his cronies lied.

Maybe the people which you mention lied as well, I don't know, I didn't read anything about them.

But I am willing to read and learn if you want to post a link from a reputable source.

If there is evidence then why are they not investigated and prosecuted?

Is Attorney General William Barr to shy to do something or what's the problem? 

[hugocnx]

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You are in a run of ill informed arguments this morning.

 

You seem to have missed the fact that this is a discussion forum where we get to share our opinions.

OMG, really? Well, my personal opinion is that too many (mostly Trump haters) on this discussion forum are bullies with respect to opinions of others and especially to the pro Trumpers. Of course I don't mean you (TIC). "How dare you"

[OneMoreFarang]

12 minutes ago, hugocnx said:

OMG, really? Well, my personal opinion is that too many (mostly Trump haters) on this discussion forum are bullies with respect to opinions of others and especially to the pro Trumpers. Of course I don't mean you (TIC). "How dare you"

Respect for pro Trumpers? Wow!

That reminds me of the mafia. You just have to respect the boss. Otherwise bad things will happen to you.

Why should we respect people who support a [inset all the parts which would be censored] person? 

[wwest5829]

10 hours ago, nev said:

Just let the man do his job he was elected to do.

The Dems dont really understand the democratic proccess and will go to any lengths to try to dicredit Trump.

I will just add i am not American just an outsiders view.

And I will add I am an American and The Donald is enabled to do anything, including over ridding citizen Grand Jury decisions and Trial Jury decisions ...

[wwest5829]

10 hours ago, nev said:

Just let the man do his job he was elected to do.

The Dems dont really understand the democratic proccess and will go to any lengths to try to dicredit Trump.

I will just add i am not American just an outsiders view.

You have your view. But we understand the democratic process just fine. The Donald is an aberration and will thus be recorded in history. I do add I understand how this aberration came about and hold both the adromaratic  and Republican Party responsible.

[wwest5829]

9 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

Im sure it will cripple him in the next election ????

Impeach this (again):

 

Gallup: 60% of Americans say they are better off now than when Trump took office compared to just 36% who say they are not. That is higher than during the reelection campaigns of Obama, W, Clinton, or HW Bush. 60% of independents say they're better off than three years ago.

And yet, his approval rating remains where?

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

You can pretend that McCabe didn't lie to congress, you can pretend Brennan didn't lie to congress, you can pretend comey didn't lie to congress. 

 

But they did. On Camera. And yet they walk free. 

 

Partisan targeted prosecution seems to be only appropriate for the left. 

 

It is going to backfire in spectacular fashion. 

Then you really must hate trump for not prosecuting them.

 

What do you say about that.

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

If you are paying attention, the doj was not agreeing with the harsh sentencing a WEEK before any comments made by the potus. These out of control prosecutors are the biased and political. 

If you know facts, hard for a trump supporter, the prosecutors gave the sentencing submission then 16 hours later the doj decided they didnt like it.

 

But the judge doesnt need to to agree.

[Tippaporn]

24 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Excellent he was the only Republican? So, the Democrat vote overwhelmed him. Thank you for supporting my point that he is not popular... or that there are fewer Republicans voting ...

Yes, it's a completely meaningless data point.  Keep telling yourself that.  Over and over and over.  The repetition works wonders.

[JHolmesJr]

Barr has done nothing he isn't entitled to.

Im looking forward to his testimony in Nadlers

clown show in March. I love the way he swats these 

idiot Dems away like flies.

[JHolmesJr]

The key to getting stone's conviction overturned is understanding the role played

by an openly based jury forewoman that the defence had asked to be disallowed.

But  judge Jackson overruled them.

 

Now it's turning out that this lady Tomeka Hart has written all kinds of anti trump

nonsense about russia collusion, his associates etc...and run for office as a democrat.

how she could ever be allowed on a jury like this one is befuddling.....a judge with very

poor judgement? Judge has some serious 'splaining to do.

 

This is turning out to be a case of official corruption or rank incompetence.

 

Glad Barr took the reins on this one.

[candide]

5 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

The key to getting stone's conviction overturned is understanding the role played

by an openly based jury forewoman that the defence had asked to be disallowed.

But  judge Jackson overruled them.

 

Now it's turning out that this lady Tomeka Hart has written all kinds of anti trump

nonsense about russia collusion, his associates etc...and run for office as a democrat.

how she could ever be allowed on a jury like this one is befuddling.....a judge with very

poor judgement? Judge has some serious 'splaining to do.

 

This is turning out to be a case of official corruption or rank incompetence.

 

Glad Barr took the reins on this one.

So what? This juror was vetted during the jury selection process & was seated.

On top of it, there's not much doubt about what Stone did. He did lie, It's easy to check. He did threaten a witness, there's no doubt about it either.

How many years in jail is it worth? It can be discussed, if you want. But there is absolutely no ambiguity about what he did. It's all recorded or written.

So It's another ..... argument, as usual.

[Chiphigh]

13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Respect for pro Trumpers? Wow!

That reminds me of the mafia. You just have to respect the boss. Otherwise bad things will happen to you.

Why should we respect people who support a [inset all the parts which would be censored] person? 

Thank you for clearly demonstrating the emotional irrational nature of the squad of outraged anti trump tvf posters. 

[Chiphigh]

5 hours ago, candide said:

So what? This juror was vetted during the jury selection process & was seated.

On top of it, there's not much doubt about what Stone did. He did lie, It's easy to check. He did threaten a witness, there's no doubt about it either.

How many years in jail is it worth? It can be discussed, if you want. But there is absolutely no ambiguity about what he did. It's all recorded or written.

So It's another ..... argument, as usual.

So it is ok for the judge to allow a blatantly hyper partisan anti trump Democrat to be the foreman? 

 

This will end in a mistrial. The ridiculous double standards and targeted persecution based on who you support is going to backfire 

[Baerboxer]

On 2/13/2020 at 9:55 AM, Jingthing said:

No American president is elected to be an autocratic dictator. No American president is elected to be above all laws. No American president is elected to corrupt the justice system. He's a rogue and he's permanently damaging American democracy as well as the USA's role in the world. Decent Americans will never stand silent for that!

 

Pity no one told the Clintons that!

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, Chiphigh said:

Thank you for clearly demonstrating the emotional irrational nature of the squad of outraged anti trump tvf posters. 

 

Sadly you sum up where most left liberal supporters are nowadays. They just can't understand why some people might not believe everything they say and even dare to have a different opinion.

 

So they react emotionally and irrationally to it and hiss names such as Nazi, fascist, racist, gangster, mafia, to any they feel aren't politically correct with views they approve of.

 

What's sinister is the way these left wing politicians all now try and subvert the law as a political weapon.

[JHolmesJr]

6 hours ago, candide said:

So what? This juror was vetted during the jury selection process & was seated.

No...the defence objected but judge overruled.

 

In legal terms this will be argued as miscarriage of justice among other things.

Mistrial!

[Sujo]

12 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

The key to getting stone's conviction overturned is understanding the role played

by an openly based jury forewoman that the defence had asked to be disallowed.

But  judge Jackson overruled them.

 

Now it's turning out that this lady Tomeka Hart has written all kinds of anti trump

nonsense about russia collusion, his associates etc...and run for office as a democrat.

how she could ever be allowed on a jury like this one is befuddling.....a judge with very

poor judgement? Judge has some serious 'splaining to do.

 

This is turning out to be a case of official corruption or rank incompetence.

 

Glad Barr took the reins on this one.

Trump wasnt the accused.

 

Barr did nothing about the trial, he only changed the sentencing recommendation.

 

i didnt hear you complain about repubs controlling the trump trial.

[Jingthing]

48 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Pity no one told the Clintons that!

There is no equivalence. Not even close.

[WalkingOrders]

There is an investigation taking place right now by the DOJ, and it's investigating what the Democrats do not want to be investigated, and it's already looking ugly. As is usual, when Democrats want an investigation it's a deflection from what is really going on. This is one more nail in a Democrat coffin nearly nailed shut.

[candide]

1 hour ago, Chiphigh said:

So it is ok for the judge to allow a blatantly hyper partisan anti trump Democrat to be the foreman? 

 

This will end in a mistrial. The ridiculous double standards and targeted persecution based on who you support is going to backfire 

She's been vetted by the defense lawyer, right?

[WalkingOrders]

13 hours ago, Sujo said:

What a strange post.

The post speaks volumes, and if the trend remains through super Tuesday, the panic is going to make for great television!

[Chomper Higgot]

51 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Sadly you sum up where most left liberal supporters are nowadays. They just can't understand why some people might not believe everything they say and even dare to have a different opinion.

 

So they react emotionally and irrationally to it and hiss names such as Nazi, fascist, racist, gangster, mafia, to any they feel aren't politically correct with views they approve of.

 

What's sinister is the way these left wing politicians all now try and subvert the law as a political weapon.

‘subvert the law’ you say!

[WalkingOrders]

On 2/13/2020 at 10:55 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

You’ve got a problem with your accusations, the DoJ’s investigation found the FBI to have acted legally within the law.

This response is incorrect. You need to read the 

FISA report once more. Read it yourself.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

There is an investigation taking place right now by the DOJ, and it's investigating what the Democrats do not want to be investigated, and it's already looking ugly. As is usual, when Democrats want an investigation it's a deflection from what is really going on. This is one more nail in a Democrat coffin nearly nailed shut.

Pure projection.

 

But do tell, how do you know what this ‘investigation’ you refer to is turning up?