Popular Post Lacessit Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 Like quite a few others, I have provided for my Thai GF in my will. One Thai will, one Australian will, both saying the same thing. Let's say I have the obligatory 800K in a bank account, plus other funds in a different account for living expenses and self-insurance of a black swan medical event. How long will it take my Thai GF to get her hands on the money after I cark it, what obstacles might she encounter, and how can I expedite the process? She is named as the executor of my Thai will. I'm concerned the funds she is rightfully entitled to may be tied up by Thai bureaucracy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Good thing you have a will. I have been told around 6 months, give or take. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, Lacessit said: Like quite a few others Are you okay? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UbonThani Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 Easy fix - move $ to her account now. Unless you dont trust her. If you dont trust her she shouldnt be in the will. 1 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, UbonThani said: Easy fix - move $ to her account now. Unless you dont trust her. If you dont trust her she shouldnt be in the will. Utter nonsense. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonThani Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said: Utter nonsense. How so??????? Common sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonThani Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Why would you make her wait 6 months? Either you trust her or you dont. Common sense not very common sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, UbonThani said: How so??????? Common sense It should have stopped you. You are off your head. But..rather then pursue a self evident line of reasoning I would prefer to know whether the poster (we have had some clashes in the past) is okay..as he is getting on in years and not in the best of physical health.. Edited February 28, 2020 by Odysseus123 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonThani Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Odysseus123 said: It should have stopped you. You are off your head, Your posts make no sense. Obviously a bargirl deal for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted February 28, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said: Are you okay? I'm OK, I like to plan ahead. Thanks. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonThani Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Well he could use net banking if in hospital. At least move some if a few weeks off carking it. Some people drop dead in 1 hour though. The other option is give her your passwords. Up to you. Depends if this is some fling or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanuk711 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Allow her to have signing rights on the 800K account (not name ---because of Immigration) also the PIN number of your card for that account. that should tie her over until she has waded Thai through paper mountain--to access all the accounts you left her. I have everything (most things) in wife's name---but we are both pensioners now, lots of history, so I appreciate that might not be a comfortable situation with all couples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, UbonThani said: Your posts make no sense. Obviously a bargirl deal for you. They make a great deal of sense, thank you. Bar girl deal.huh?Well that's senselessness... The poster has responded,is an intelligent man, and no doubt will get on doing whatever he is doing. I made it a Golden Rule in Thailand to NEVER listen to another expat-under any circumstances whatsoever. Edited February 28, 2020 by Odysseus123 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, UbonThani said: Easy fix - move $ to her account now. Unless you dont trust her. If you dont trust her she shouldnt be in the will. Lacessit : Does your girlfriend live in Udon thani ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 as long as the lawyers think they can drag it out and keep the money coming in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 53 minutes ago, surangw said: as long as the lawyers think they can drag it out and keep the money coming in Is the involvement of a lawyer necessary when an executor is named in the will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Puccini said: Is the involvement of a lawyer necessary when an executor is named in the will? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 12 hours ago, UbonThani said: Well he could use net banking if in hospital. At least move some if a few weeks off carking it. Some people drop dead in 1 hour though. The other option is give her your passwords. Up to you. Depends if this is some fling or more. Seven years is a fairly long fling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 12 hours ago, sanemax said: Lacessit : Does your girlfriend live in Udon thani ? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 16 hours ago, Odysseus123 said: I made it a Golden Rule in Thailand to NEVER listen to another expat-under any circumstances whatsoever. not even Rumak ? lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Also, by the Commercial Code of Thailand, the will must be given to the court and checks completed, then there's a period of time (by law) which must pass before any action to grant probate by the court can occur, to allow time for other people to lodge any objections to the will. E.g. one person holding a will dated 1 Jan 2020 and this is the will presented to the court for probate, but in fact there's another more recent will completed 2 Jan 2020 all properly completed but held by a different person. Clearly the more recent will totally overrides / totally cancels any earlier will. I think (repeat think) the waiting period is 90 days but this needs checking. About 12 months ago I made a new will here in LOS, and my adult Thai son also, the well experienced Thai lawyer mentioned the above. My understanding is that the law on this subject is the same in 99% / maybe 100% of countries worldwide (but of course the actual waiting time may be different). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, rumak said: not even Rumak ? lol I listen when you post photos of gorgeous chicks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 18 hours ago, sanuk711 said: Allow her to have signing rights on the 800K account (not name ---because of Immigration) also the PIN number of your card for that account. don't somebody have to report to your bank you are dead, aka, account frozen ? pin number, good idea ... and one day, you break up or have to go to immigration and you find out you have 0 baht on the account left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, Lacessit said: I listen when you post photos of gorgeous chicks. the one that drove you crazy i can't find anymore ! she was so hot i guess the hard drive just got too hard and shattered. back on topic. i always thought pro bait was referring to the professionals that could steal a man's heart in two weeks or less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanuk711 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, justin case said: don't somebody have to report to your bank you are dead, aka, account frozen ? pin number, good idea ... and one day, you break up or have to go to immigration and you find out you have 0 baht on the account left No your under no obligation to report to a bank. The account can sit there with 100 baht in it until they close it for inactivity. Also it is her account (or will be re the will) Re the PIN number That is the card to the same bank account ---the OP states that he has other accounts but just wants her to have money until she can sort those accounts out. . if you feel that you are the sort of relationship....where you may wake up one morning and all your clothes are gone-------then this solution isn't for you.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloR Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I recently went through this process of probate in Phuket. 1. You need a lawyer 2. Death certificate, will, plus any other documents (bank book chanotes etc.) 3. Appear in court before a judge who will verify everything and ask lots of questions; then grant interim probate if he/she is satisfied. 4. Wait for statuary period for full probate to be granted - this can vary, I was told, but in my case was 1 month. I did not inform the bank or any legal body in Thailand and continued to draw funds on behalf of the will's beneficiary during this period. In total 6 weeks start to finish. I am told that having the will witnessed by and lodged with a lawyer helps speed the process. PM me if you wish to have the contact details of the efficient and honest lawyer I used in Phuket (it took me a long time and some bad experiences before I found him!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, PaoloR said: I recently went through this process of probate in Phuket. 1. You need a lawyer 2. Death certificate, will, plus any other documents (bank book chanotes etc.) 3. Appear in court before a judge who will verify everything and ask lots of questions; then grant interim probate if he/she is satisfied. 4. Wait for statuary period for full probate to be granted - this can vary, I was told, but in my case was 1 month. I did not inform the bank or any legal body in Thailand and continued to draw funds on behalf of the will's beneficiary during this period. In total 6 weeks start to finish. I am told that having the will witnessed by and lodged with a lawyer helps speed the process. PM me if you wish to have the contact details of the efficient and honest lawyer I used in Phuket (it took me a long time and some bad experiences before I found him!) The will has been witnessed by my GF's lawyer, translated into English as well. About 5000 baht if I remember correctly. We're in the Chiang Rai area. Thanks for your input. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Lacessit said: Seven years is a fairly long fling. Missed your latest post so no problems. (A beneficiary cannot witness the will, I am told.) Edited February 29, 2020 by GreasyFingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alacrity Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 If the will is registered with a Thai notary a few days. Otherwise expect up to 3 months and beyond. Depends on when a hearing can be scheduled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saengd Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 5 hours ago, justin case said: don't somebody have to report to your bank you are dead, aka, account frozen ? pin number, good idea ... and one day, you break up or have to go to immigration and you find out you have 0 baht on the account left When you open an account the Terms and Conditions require you to notify the bank if an account holder dies. If a joint account holder drains the account when the other account holder has died that is illegal. The bank is required to abide by the ruling of the Probate Court alone, the bank will not know if a will that is presented to them is the latest will or if taxes are owed by the deceased. My understanding is that the Probate Court requires 90 days, I also understand banks can take a further 90 days before final settlement is made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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