Popular Post Brightly Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 It’s worth it to stay home if you’re over 60. Even if you’re healthy, consider staying home, letting others shop, wiping down the packages when they arrive. Hand washing, hand washing, hand washing... learn how to do it right... You think you know, but DO YOU?? Learn proper hand washing. This virus is bad, but will likely pass. Now is the time to stay at home, observe hand washing , don’t allow others in your home at this time, avoid going out, and essentially stay put. Let the virus pass. Will this save your life? Maybe, hopefully so, but it will also save others. Stay put, keep others out of your home. Keep at home, contain contacts, and you will help save lives. Remember a 1:10 bleach solution kills most stuff if you let it dry for at least 30 minutes. Stay home, keep a modicum of clean, avoid contacts—and you will save lives. This virus will pass. But the time to stay diligent is now. 7 5 4 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 Brightly, make sure you stay home and wash your hands, ok! 6 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brightly Posted March 13, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 PatOngo, This is exactly what I plan to do. If some super-virus comes along, killing everything in its path, well..then all bets are off. But until then, let’s attempt to manage what seems manageable. Things could change on a dime, but for now, social distancing and basic hygiene-plus seem like stellar tools. I have a lifelong background in healthcare, so I’m not just screaming up a tree: Everything I put forth is reasonable and doable. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puchaiyank Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just got back from buying building materials...store was not crowded. Then stopped by a new restaurant on the way home...half full...never saw a face mask... This could be my last posting...???? I know the ones already who hope so! ???? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Salerno Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Brightly said: I have a lifelong background in healthcare, so I’m not just screaming up a tree: Swinging from a lamp shade perhaps? 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shdmn Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) I went and bought groceries today and somehow survived. Never managed to find any toilet paper though. I can always do it the Thai way and use my hands. I am going to the gym next. Pray for me!!! ???? Edited March 13, 2020 by shdmn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UbonThani Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 Living in fear No life at all 9 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonThani Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1153375-103-year-old-woman-beats-coronavirus-in-6-days-in-wuhan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonThani Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Are people going to stay home for 6 months? Just not realistic. Or 12 months? Its going to be around a while. Go out and just be careful. Take zinc and fast. Go for walks. Make yourself stronger. Someone sitting around in fear is making themselves weaker so if you go out in 6 mths and get it you are more likely to die. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) The current tactics involve spreading out and delaying the inevitable outbreak so that those suffering severe respiratory symptoms don’t overwhelm the health care facilities. Ultimately, just like Influenza, most people will contract Covid-19 at some point within the next couple of years, making best efforts to control the spread rate means health facilities are not overwhelmed at the same time. Additionally, if area’s are successful in delaying the spread of Covid-19 for a sufficient amount of time vaccinations can be issued and the impact of any subsequent outbreak is minimised. All tactics employed so far are not some much about preventing the spread, the aim seems to be ‘delaying’ the spread so that medical facilities are not overwhelmed and there is time to generate a vaccine. Of course, an additional facet of the Covid-19 outbreak is that is has significantly greater impact on those older than 60 yrs. The majority of those in positions of decision making power are older than 60 yrs (i.e. Politicians, CEO’s of major companies etc) - they are becoming very effective in ’shutting down’ the world once the true potential is being realised. Edited March 13, 2020 by richard_smith237 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, UbonThani said: Living in fear No life at all Indeed. OP: load of bollllox. This thing, in the great scheme of things, is so minuscule as to be irrelevant really. You, and most other folk focusing on media, are going way over the top as to treat it as the apocalypse. Wash your hands all you want, isolate for 12 months etc, after which you'll get royally bitten on the bottom. Going forward, most logical option would be for all to be exposed with a little bit to fire the immune system. Edited March 13, 2020 by daveAustin 5 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, UbonThani said: Are people going to stay home for 6 months? Just not realistic. Or 12 months? Its going to be around a while. Go out and just be careful. Take zinc and fast. Go for walks. Make yourself stronger. Someone sitting around in fear is making themselves weaker so if you go out in 6 mths and get it you are more likely to die. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, daveAustin said: Indeed. OP: load of bollllox. This thing, in the great scheme of things, is so minuscule as to be irrelevant really. You, and most other folk focusing on media, are going way over the top as to treat it as the apocalypse. Wash your hands all you want, isolate for 12 months etc, after which you'll get royally bitten on the bottom. Going forward, most logical option would be for all to be exposed. Highly flawed thinking... Only once a vaccine is created and widely distributed can we not be too concerned about wide spread exposure. Until then the mortality rate is sufficiently high that we would all be impacted in some way or form. Now we are not worried because we (the vast majority) of us do not know anyone who has been impacted by this Virus. However, with a 2% mortality rate the impact would be the same as cancer if most of us were exposed. We all know someone who's life has been impacted by cancer, a friend or a loved one has passed away as a result of cancer, or a few of us have been fortunately enough to survive. Once there is a Vaccine for Covid-19 its impact will be greatly minimised and potentially eradicated, much like Polio, Measles etc or more realistically, its impact will be similar to that of seasonal influenza. But first, there has to be time for a Vaccine to be created, generated and distributed. Until then the ‘First’ outbreak has the potential to impact the lives of everyone on the planet in some way or form (i.e. the loss of a loved one, especially our elders), so no, the most logical option would NOT be for all to be exposed, that is the most deadly option and a rather unintelligent, ill thought out absence of logic. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Oh, Lord, kumbaya (oh, Lord, kumbaya) Someone's cryin', Lord, kumbaya Someone's cryin', Lord, kumbaya Someone's cryin', Lord, kumbaya Oh, Lord, kumbaya (oh, Lord, kumbaya) Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya Oh, Lord, kumbaya (oh, Lord, kumbaya) Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Oh, Lord, kumbaya (oh, Lord, kumbaya) Kumbaya 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, daveAustin said: Indeed. OP: load of bollllox. This thing, in the great scheme of things, is so minuscule as to be irrelevant really. You, and most other folk focusing on media, are going way over the top as to treat it as the apocalypse. Wash your hands all you want, isolate for 12 months etc, after which you'll get royally bitten on the bottom. Going forward, most logical option would be for all to be exposed. Hear Hear You think this is a new thing ? Happens every year - Get Over It ! They said the same for Swine Flu, SARS, MERS ... Y2K ... And what happened - SFA is what happened. Some people get it and die - same same always “We are more often frightened than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination than from reality.” — Seneca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Puchaiyank said: Just got back from buying building materials...store was not crowded. Then stopped by a new restaurant on the way home...half full...never saw a face mask... This could be my last posting...???? I know the ones already who hope so! ???? yes, can imagine the self preservation advantage in hiding behind your Last Post! - maybe the trick really is in the Walking backwards everywhere does this mean you could technically always be like upwind from a direct cough? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 With the exception of medical masks, and antiseptics, hoarding has been at a minimum around Thailand. I'm just glad that the "hysteria" has inspired a bit of hygiene awareness. Sure, there are still plenty of people who will not wash their hands, cover their coughs, or take up other hygienic practices. But, I am thankful for those that have picked up some better habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, ezzra said: Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Oh, Lord, kumbaya (oh, Lord, kumbaya) Someone's cryin', Lord, kumbaya Someone's cryin', Lord, kumbaya Someone's cryin', Lord, kumbaya Oh, Lord, kumbaya (oh, Lord, kumbaya) Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya Someone's singin', Lord, kumbaya Oh, Lord, kumbaya (oh, Lord, kumbaya) Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Oh, Lord, kumbaya (oh, Lord, kumbaya) Kumbaya Well, that sure dates you bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, pdtokyo said: It's all subjective ………..and confusing? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmficc Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Brightly said: It’s worth it to stay home if you’re over 60. Even if you’re healthy, consider staying home, letting others shop, wiping down the packages when they arrive. Hand washing, hand washing, hand washing... learn how to do it right... You think you know, but DO YOU?? Learn proper hand washing. This virus is bad, but will likely pass. Now is the time to stay at home, observe hand washing , don’t allow others in your home at this time, avoid going out, and essentially stay put. Let the virus pass. Will this save your life? Maybe, hopefully so, but it will also save others. Stay put, keep others out of your home. Keep at home, contain contacts, and you will help save lives. Remember a 1:10 bleach solution kills most stuff if you let it dry for at least 30 minutes. Stay home, keep a modicum of clean, avoid contacts—and you will save lives. This virus will pass. But the time to stay diligent is now. Why must we be assaulted with unwanted, simplistic life coaching? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Puchaiyank said: Just got back from buying building materials...store was not crowded. Then stopped by a new restaurant on the way home...half full...never saw a face mask... This could be my last posting...???? I know the ones already who hope so! ???? half full...never saw a face mask... that is because the WHO and public health representatives around the world state that wearing a face mask will have very effect in preventing infection from the virus, indeed wearing a face mask may give people false sense of security. if you are infected a face mask may offer some reduction in infecting other people - but if you're infected you should be self isolating. the consensus is as the OP stated; wash your hands often and for at least 20 seconds and stay away from large gatherings of people, betond that it's up to everyone to do their own risk assessment and act appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I am staying indoors because the pollution is beyond bad I am not that worried about the virus But still, not a good time to be a CM resident 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 8 hours ago, canthai55 said: 8 hours ago, daveAustin said: Indeed. OP: load of bollllox. This thing, in the great scheme of things, is so minuscule as to be irrelevant really. You, and most other folk focusing on media, are going way over the top as to treat it as the apocalypse. Wash your hands all you want, isolate for 12 months etc, after which you'll get royally bitten on the bottom. Going forward, most logical option would be for all to be exposed. Hear Hear You think this is a new thing ? Happens every year - Get Over It ! They said the same for Swine Flu, SARS, MERS ... Y2K ... And what happened - SFA is what happened. Some people get it and die - same same always “We are more often frightened than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination than from reality.” — Seneca MERS had a total of 2492 cases of which 858 people died. An extremely high (34.4%) case fatality rate, fortunately a very low transmission rate. SARS had a Total 8098 cases of which 774 deaths – a high (9.4%) case fatality rate, but again, fortunately a very low transmission rate. Swine Flu - SIV and S-OIV with numerous subtypes (eg H1N1 to H2N3 was contracted by 10-21% of the global population with 150,000-575,000 fatalities. A case fatality rate of between 0.01% to 0.08% As you can see, swine flu was relatively devastating in numbers alone because of its high transmission rate, but its case fatality rate is quite low. It has been reported that Covid-19 has a case fatality rate of ±2%. Italy now has 15113 cases, with 1016 deaths, a very high case fatality rate of 6.7% The concern with Covid-19 is its seemly very high transmission rate, similar to that of influenza (or Swine Flu) If you think of Covid-19 with the same transmission rate as Swine Flu (which may well be the case), then the numbers would be catastrophic if contracted by 10-21% of the global population. The numbers would be between 680,000,000 (680 million) to 1,428,000,000 (1.4 billion) cases. A case fatality rate of 2% would result in between 13.6 million and 28.5 million deaths. A case fatality rate of 6.7% (Italy) would result in between 45.5million and 95.7million deaths. These are real world figures, but will probably still be argued with by people unable to comprehend the risk and prefer to pull the wool over their own eyes and pass comments such as ‘Happens every year, get over it’ !!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 12 hours ago, Brightly said: Remember a 1:10 bleach solution kills most stuff if you let it dry for at least 30 minutes. I just drank a 1:10 bleach solution, how do I let that dry? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinner2020 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, daveAustin said: Indeed. OP: load of bollllox. This thing, in the great scheme of things, is so minuscule as to be irrelevant really. You, and most other folk focusing on media, are going way over the top as to treat it as the apocalypse. Wash your hands all you want, isolate for 12 months etc, after which you'll get royally bitten on the bottom. Going forward, most logical option would be for all to be exposed with a little bit to fire the immune system. Well said! Global panic my @rse. Global loss of perspective, more like, coupled with incompetent regimes' fear of getting sued. We should all be sneezing on lawyers and pollies. Edited March 14, 2020 by spinner2020 corectid spelinge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trujillo Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Guess which all-you-can-eat salad bar this is in Central Festival? I have told them, written to the regional manager, all to no avail. Let'zz all just just contaminate everyone else's food, shall we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: These are real world figures, but will probably still be argued with by idiots unable to comprehend the risk and prefer to pull the wool over their own eyes and pass comments such as ‘Happens every year, get over it’ !!!! I see - I can pull stats of the internet too. I can operate a calculator also. One thing I do not do is call people who have a different opinion than I do Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, canthai55 said: 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: These are real world figures, but will probably still be argued with by idiots unable to comprehend the risk and prefer to pull the wool over their own eyes and pass comments such as ‘Happens every year, get over it’ !!!! I see - I can pull stats of the internet too. I can operate a calculator also. One thing I do not do is call people who have a different opinion than I do Idiots. Apologies, not idiots... they’re just people who are choose not to avail themselves of factual information before drawing an opinion.... why let the facts get in the way of a bit of bravado? I too was of the opinion that this was just 'hysteria driven hysteria’, I based my opinion on selective information and conformation bias. However, in keeping an open mind the more I have educated myself on past outbreaks and compared them to the facts (so far) from this current Covid-19 outbreak I have had to accept that my initial ‘they’re all panicking over nothing’ opinion was wrong. The statistics tell us what is happening, the experts use these statistics to analysis the potential of this virus and the potential is frightening. The video below outlines the exponential growth of this outbreak so far, at the moment do not know at which numbers the growth rate will start to drop off. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex8912 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 11 hours ago, shdmn said: I went and bought groceries today and somehow survived. Never managed to find any toilet paper though. I can always do it the Thai way and use my hands. I am going to the gym next. Pray for me!!! ???? Steal the toilet paper from the gym???? You can thank me later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metempsychotic Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 13 hours ago, PatOngo said: Brightly, make sure you stay home and wash your hands, ok! Did he mention hand washing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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