Biden courts Sanders voters with student loan, healthcare policies

[Cryingdick]

33 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

I predict Republicans tamp down support from the Bernie wing by educating them on Biden's (aka "The Senator from MBNA") decades-long screwing consumers to pay off his campaign contributions from banksters.

They have already alienated a good amount of Bernie supporters permanently. They can cry they didn't cheat Bernie and that's fine. The problem there is many Bernie supporters don't believe that.

 

Obama won't endorse Biden it seems and Bernie stays on the ballot. This is not the face of a united party. 

[Watchful]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

I sense desperation in the trump supporters lol he will pick the best female candidate that fits his agenda kamala Harris or Amy imo each one would be fine and don’t think for a minute the women folk are happy with trump trying to take away their hard earned rights the lady’s are half the vote and they aren’t happy trump is history come November just look what’s happening on his watch approaching 20%unemployment people dying in droves due to his bungled response economy tanked deficit exploding all on his watch nope I don’t buy it he’s toast

Tug, as a Republican I pray Biden will pick Harris. Besides being dumb, she is hated in her own state. In the California primary she got less than 4% of the Democratic votes. 

 

Then if you think unemployment stats will hurt Trump, you are dreaming. Trump drove unemployment to the lowest level in 50 years. Then for African Americans the level was the lowest ever recorded.

 

As for the pandemic, think again. You have the Democratic governors of NY, California and Washington all praising Trump! You had better get the party faithful together and start putting some leashes on these governors.    

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, Watchful said:

Tug, as a Republican I pray Biden will pick Harris. Besides being dumb, she is hated in her own state. In the California primary she got less than 4% of the Democratic votes. 

 

Then if you think unemployment stats will hurt Trump, you are dreaming. Trump drove unemployment to the lowest level in 50 years. Then for African Americans the level was the lowest ever recorded.

 

As for the pandemic, think again. You have the Democratic governors of NY, California and Washington all praising Trump! You had better get the party faithful together and start putting some leashes on these governors.    

 

Trumps numbers have actually gone up during all of this.

[Crazy Alex]

22 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

They have already alienated a good amount of Bernie supporters permanently. They can cry they didn't cheat Bernie and that's fine. The problem there is many Bernie supporters don't believe that.

 

Obama won't endorse Biden it seems and Bernie stays on the ballot. This is not the face of a united party. 

Obama: "You don't have to do this, Joe"

 

Translation: Joe, don't do this, you <deleted> moron.

[Tug]

18 minutes ago, Watchful said:

Tug, as a Republican I pray Biden will pick Harris. Besides being dumb, she is hated in her own state. In the California primary she got less than 4% of the Democratic votes. 

 

Then if you think unemployment stats will hurt Trump, you are dreaming. Trump drove unemployment to the lowest level in 50 years. Then for African Americans the level was the lowest ever recorded.

 

As for the pandemic, think again. You have the Democratic governors of NY, California and Washington all praising Trump! You had better get the party faithful together and start putting some leashes on these governors.    

Oh I donno lol I’m a native Californian we’re kinda fond of kamala you know putting the perps in jail and smart to lol hey trump almost caught up to Obama on the jobs but no he dident and of course they have to speak nice or people die trump won’t help unless you grovel they know that and I wouldent dream of putting a leash on anyone that’s a trump thing kinda like the cartels don’t suck up he’ll wreck your life not the kind of guy I admire or support 

[Nigel Garvie]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

I sense desperation in the trump supporters lol he will pick the best female candidate that fits his agenda kamala Harris or Amy imo each one would be fine and don’t think for a minute the women folk are happy with trump trying to take away their hard earned rights the lady’s are half the vote and they aren’t happy trump is history come November just look what’s happening on his watch approaching 20%unemployment people dying in droves due to his bungled response economy tanked deficit exploding all on his watch nope I don’t buy it he’s toast

Your senses appear to be working just fine, indeed you can almost smell the Trumsters fear, post after post of reality denial.

3 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Yes, we are all well aware Joe Biden has committed to engage in sexual discrimination. And leftists celebrate it!

 

Downright surreal. And hilarious.

 

I may be wrong - It's got to happen eventually -  but the explanation appears so simple I'm surprised that a stushie is being made out of it. Biden probably had a number of people in mind for VP, as it happens they were all women, therefore he said he was going to choose a woman. The nominee choses his/her running mate, it is not a job application for CEO or whatever. 

 

Millions of American women all over the US are lining up to give Donald Trump (Famous for saying "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.")*   a taste of his own medicine. I can't see his religious nutter of a VP changing any of their minds.  

 

* Commentators and lawyers have described such an action as sexual assault.

Edited April 12, 2020 by Nigel Garvie
request

[Cryingdick]

6 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Your senses appear to be working just fine, indeed you can almost smell the Trumsters fear, post after post of reality denial.

 

I may be wrong - It's got to happen eventually -  but the explanation appears so simple I'm surprised that a stushie is being made out of it. Biden probably had a number of people in mind for VP, as it happens they were all women, therefore he said he was going to choose a woman. The nominee choses his/her running mate, it is not a job application for CEO or whatever. 

 

Millions of American women all over the US are lining up to give mr "Grab them by the fanny" a taste of his own medicine. I can't see his religious nutter of a VP changing any of their minds.  

 

You should edit your post and spell Trump's name the right way. I won't bother to report it but we do have some standards I would hope. It seems like a typo. Otherwise Trump becomes Tramp Drumpf, Clinton becomes C*nten. Let's all agree to use an adjective and then the real name. 

Edited April 12, 2020 by Cryingdick

[Nigel Garvie]

21 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

You should edit your post and spell Trump's name the right way. I won't bother to report it but we do have some standards I would hope. It seems like a typo. Otherwise Trump becomes Tramp Drumpf, Clinton becomes C*nten. Let's all agree to use an adjective and then the real name. 

I have edited as requested, I agree that giving mocking nicknames is not a good idea. The original quote still stands, it is widely recognised, and apposite to the subject of women voting for a new president.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I have edited as requested, I agree that giving mocking nicknames is not a good idea. The original quote still stands, it is widely recognised, and apposite to the subject of women voting for a new president.

 

It can get nasty at times and I am as guilty as the next guy. So thanks for taking the suggestion in the spirit of which it was offered.

[metisdead]

Some posts have been removed as the quoted content was the original context prior to the member editing the post to remove the mocking nicknames. 

[Monomial]

On 4/10/2020 at 7:40 AM, ehs818 said:

The choice is simple, and I hope you can see it:

If you DON'T vote for Biden, you get 4 more years (or more) with Trump. Is that what you want?

If you DO vote for Biden, you get a decent man, well intentioned, intelligent and caring for all US citizens.

Your Choice!!

 

 

You forget why Trump won in the first place. People don't want what Biden is offering.  They don't want someone who supports the status quo of more corporate welfare as a bribe to support the government's social programs. They are sick and tired of the modern agenda pushed by both sides of the political aisle.

 

Trump won because he promised something genuinely different. Less cooperation internationally. More concentration on domestic issues that matter. America first. The question now is whether or not, when push comes to shove, people are going to be willing to accept that Trump was not the answer to their prayers. That doesn't mean Biden is a good thing. He may be a good man, but he is most definitely not what Americans want as a president.

 

Biden as a candidate means that Trump is basically running unopposed in this race. He only has himself to beat. A few weeks ago I would have said this means 4 more years. This virus has thrown a wrench into everything though. Trump's bungling of this may be his undoing, but it remains to be seen which option Americans think is less palatable.

 

[Watchful]

5 hours ago, Monomial said:

 

Biden as a candidate means that Trump is basically running unopposed in this race. He only has himself to beat. A few weeks ago I would have said this means 4 more years. This virus has thrown a wrench into everything though. Trump's bungling of this may be his undoing, but it remains to be seen which option Americans think is less palatable.

 

If Trump's team is "bungling" the pandemic, you had better share this with the big Democratic governors. They are all giving the administration high marks for the help they are providing state governments.

 

Or is it that the Democratic governors are "bungling" the left's chances of defeating Trump?

  

[Crazy Alex]

12 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Millions of American women all over the US are lining up to give Donald Trump (Famous for saying "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.")*   a taste of his own medicine. I can't see his religious nutter of a VP changing any of their minds.  

 

* Commentators and lawyers have described such an action as sexual assault.

No, you're wrong. As most leftists do, you left out the phrase that makes it clear these hypothetical encounters are consensual and thus obviously NOT sexual assault (emphasis added):

 

“They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy.”

 

Whomever is telling you this constitutes sexual assault is either very dishonest, stupid, lying, or a combination of all three. Please stop spreading lies.

 

PS: Your hatred of Christianity is noted.

[Jingthing]

19 minutes ago, Watchful said:

If Trump's team is "bungling" the pandemic, you had better share this with the big Democratic governors. They are all giving the administration high marks for the help they are providing state governments.

 

Or is it that the Democratic governors are "bungling" the left's chances of defeating Trump?

  

You've got to be joking! They are merely flattering him because as a bizarre narcissist he had made it clear he doesn't even want to answer phone calls from governors that don't praise him. This is a very sick situation. A president is supposed to be president of the entire country, not only states whose leaders suck up to him. This isn't a theory. He basically says this openly. It's hard to imagine a more unfit president for the biggest crisis of multiple generations. 

[Crazy Alex]

Just now, Jingthing said:

You've got to be joking! They are merely flattering him because as a bizarre narcissist he had made it clear he doesn't even want to answer phone calls from governors that don't praise him. This is a very sick situation. A president is supposed to be president of the entire country, not only states whose leaders suck up to him. This isn't a theory. He basically says this openly. It's hard to imagine a more unfit president for the biggest crisis of multiple generations. 

Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support your claim?

[Crazy Alex]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You've got to be joking! They are merely flattering him because as a bizarre narcissist he had made it clear he doesn't even want to answer phone calls from governors that don't praise him. This is a very sick situation. A president is supposed to be president of the entire country, not only states whose leaders suck up to him. This isn't a theory. He basically says this openly. It's hard to imagine a more unfit president for the biggest crisis of multiple generations. 

"The fact is, every time I've called the president, he's quickly gotten on the line."

-- Gavin Newsom (D), governor of California

 

 

 

 

[lannarebirth]

10 hours ago, Monomial said:

 

You forget why Trump won in the first place. People don't want what Biden is offering.  They don't want someone who supports the status quo of more corporate welfare as a bribe to support the government's social programs. They are sick and tired of the modern agenda pushed by both sides of the political aisle.

 

Trump won because he promised something genuinely different. Less cooperation internationally. More concentration on domestic issues that matter. America first. The question now is whether or not, when push comes to shove, people are going to be willing to accept that Trump was not the answer to their prayers. That doesn't mean Biden is a good thing. He may be a good man, but he is most definitely not what Americans want as a president.

 

Biden as a candidate means that Trump is basically running unopposed in this race. He only has himself to beat. A few weeks ago I would have said this means 4 more years. This virus has thrown a wrench into everything though. Trump's bungling of this may be his undoing, but it remains to be seen which option Americans think is less palatable.

 

 

Correct, on all counts. Biden is like a poster boy for the Republican party, and as the old political saying goes, "when the race is between a Republican and a Republican, vote for the Republican".

 

[Tug]

14 hours ago, Monomial said:

 

You forget why Trump won in the first place. People don't want what Biden is offering.  They don't want someone who supports the status quo of more corporate welfare as a bribe to support the government's social programs. They are sick and tired of the modern agenda pushed by both sides of the political aisle.

 

Trump won because he promised something genuinely different. Less cooperation internationally. More concentration on domestic issues that matter. America first. The question now is whether or not, when push comes to shove, people are going to be willing to accept that Trump was not the answer to their prayers. That doesn't mean Biden is a good thing. He may be a good man, but he is most definitely not what Americans want as a president.

 

Biden as a candidate means that Trump is basically running unopposed in this race. He only has himself to beat. A few weeks ago I would have said this means 4 more years. This virus has thrown a wrench into everything though. Trump's bungling of this may be his undoing, but it remains to be seen which option Americans think is less palatable.

 

And what pray tell was the trump (tax cut ) all about? corporate welfare that’s what his whole spiel is business welfare we see it now he has a track record he’s not working for the people he’s 100% on bord for business at any cost that to me reeks of welfare imo America wants stability and allies trump offers neither and yes he bungled the response to the pandemic big time

[dexterm]

On 4/11/2020 at 10:16 PM, Crazy Alex said:

Can you imagine what government would do to a CEO of a company if he announced he is for sure going to hire a man as CFO? How is Biden promising to choose a woman as a running mate any less sexist? Oops!

In that women are 50% of the US population and yet there has never been a female POTUS or VP, isn't it about time that imbalance were rectified after almost 250 years of independence?

I doubt very much the likes of Agnew, Quayle, Cheney and Pence were the best persons for the job, but were simply chosen because they were male, deliberately discounting any female talent, on the sexist assumption that American voters weren't ready for a female VP.

 

Affirmative action has in other areas played a crucial role in bringing the USA out of the dark ages. I have no problem with Biden's decision.

Edited April 13, 2020 by dexterm

[Jingthing]

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You've got to be joking! They are merely flattering him because as a bizarre narcissist he had made it clear he doesn't even want to answer phone calls from governors that don't praise him. This is a very sick situation. A president is supposed to be president of the entire country, not only states whose leaders suck up to him. This isn't a theory. He basically says this openly. It's hard to imagine a more unfit president for the biggest crisis of multiple generations. 

More on this issue. 

 

As sick and unpresidential as that behavior is I consider attempts at defending this equally sick. The 45 fans enable this moral rot at the top. 

 

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/28/exchange-aid-trump-wants-praise-governors-can-use-campaign-ads/

 

In Exchange for Aid, Trump Wants Praise From Governors He Can Use in Campaign Ads

 

 

AS HE INCREASINGLY tries to shovel blame for the shortage of medical supplies onto the governors of states with densely populated areas that are suffering the most from the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump was asked on Friday what more he wants them to do. It was, he said, “very simple: I want them to be appreciative.”

 

Trump singled out two Democratic governors in particular for criticism: Jay Inslee of Washington and Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan.

 

[lannarebirth]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

More on this issue. 

 

As sick and unpresidential as that behavior is I consider attempts at defending this equally sick. The 45 fans enable this moral rot at the top. 

 

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/28/exchange-aid-trump-wants-praise-governors-can-use-campaign-ads/

 

In Exchange for Aid, Trump Wants Praise From Governors He Can Use in Campaign Ads

 

 

AS HE INCREASINGLY tries to shovel blame for the shortage of medical supplies onto the governors of states with densely populated areas that are suffering the most from the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump was asked on Friday what more he wants them to do. It was, he said, “very simple: I want them to be appreciative.”

 

Trump singled out two Democratic governors in particular for criticism: Jay Inslee of Washington and Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan.

 

 

I agree with all of that. That said, doesn't it bother you that you are being forced to choose a candidate that was not democratically chosen by the electorate and has said that he will step down after one term after choosing a female VP, (none of which I can think of that would be ready to be president, except Klobuchar, whom he won't choose).  Nina Turnerwould be a good choiceif he were going to be there 8 years, but he'll be dead by then.

 

 

[earlinclaifornia]

2 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I agree with all of that. That said, doesn't it bother you that you are being forced to choose a candidate that was not democratically chosen by the electorate and has said that he will step down after one term after choosing a female VP, (none of which I can think of that would be ready to be president, except Klobuchar, whom he won't choose).  Nina Turnerwould be a good choiceif he were going to be there 8 years, but he'll be dead by then.

 

 

Are you a fortune tell or do you have some proof of him stepping down? or perhaps just some B ?

[Kelsall]

3 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Are you a fortune tell or do you have some proof of him stepping down? or perhaps just some B ?

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2019-12-11/joe-biden-suggests-he-would-only-serve-one-term-if-elected-president

[Kelsall]

21 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

"The fact is, every time I've called the president, he's quickly gotten on the line."

-- Gavin Newsom (D), governor of California

 

 

 

 

Another example of President Trump working with and for the people for the good of the United States.  The haters, though, don't want to hear the truth; they just want to hate, and hate they do.  Hatred is part of them.  It's in their DNA.

[nattaya09]

The Bernie Bro's like the free stuff message but even Bernie couldn't get them to show up at the polls on election day

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, nattaya09 said:

The Bernie Bro's like the free stuff message but even Bernie couldn't get them to show up at the polls on election day

Everyone likes free stuff but you're correct, the reason Bernie didn't win the nomination was because he failed to get the turnout of VOTES. Particularly of younger voters. No doubt he is very popular among younger voters but actually getting off your tuchus to go and vote is not so popular with younger voters.

 

There is a historical irony here. Progressive Americans have been fighting for universal health care in the U.S. for a century and it's clear to me now that if the TIMING of the virus had been earlier like before South Carolina, Bernie could have won the nomination based on that issue alone.

 

I am hoping Bernie can convince Biden to go even further left on that issue. In the wake of the virus, there will be massive public support for that. When push comes to shove, the people's HEALTH is number one about everything else.

Edited April 13, 2020 by Jingthing

[Tug]

6 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Another example of President Trump working with and for the people for the good of the United States.  The haters, though, don't want to hear the truth; they just want to hate, and hate they do.  Hatred is part of them.  It's in their DNA.

You are 100% correct I hate the way he has divided the nation I hate the way he has treated our allies I hate the bungled response to the pandemic I hate the constant trolling and lies I hate the way he has made our nation a laughingstock I hate the fact that he cannot govern within the constitution I hate that he refuses to protect our elections I hate the fact that he disrespects pows and is so small he couldn’t put the flags at 1/2 staff untle forced to do so I hate the fact that he cannot accept responsibility that’s just for starters he’s earned it with interest imo 

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

You are 100% correct I hate the way he has divided the nation I hate the way he has treated our allies I hate the bungled response to the pandemic I hate the constant trolling and lies I hate the way he has made our nation a laughingstock I hate the fact that he cannot govern within the constitution I hate that he refuses to protect our elections I hate the fact that he disrespects pows and is so small he couldn’t put the flags at 1/2 staff untle forced to do so I hate the fact that he cannot accept responsibility that’s just for starters he’s earned it with interest imo 

Yeah, that's a great way to answer the endless attacks on correct and righteous critics of 45.

 

Seriously, what is not to hate about a president that did this? 

 

Unforgiveable.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/13/trumps-deadly-negligence-is-now-demonstrated-beyond-reasonable-doubt/

	Quote   The horrendous reality at the heart of Trump’s pandemic response   Those who complain about the media’s relentless focus on President Trump during a pandemic have yet to internalize the horrendous reality of his pandemic response: Trump’s failures of leadership and character have increased the death toll and continue to threaten lives.

[Curt1591]

On 4/10/2020 at 10:15 AM, Number 6 said:

This city and state are so needy. Absolutely sick of it.

 

*Loan* them ventilators? Never coming back.

 

New Yorkers just a few weeks ago packed in subways defiant. So typical.

"*Loan* them ventilators? Never coming back."

They will gladly give them back when done with them; that's the problem.

They don't want a stock of ventilators; it costs money to purchase and maintain them. They would rather use someone else's supply until they don't need them, then return them when done! 



 

[Cryingdick]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah, that's a great way to answer the endless attacks on correct and righteous critics of 45.

 

Seriously, what is not to hate about a president that did this? 

 

Unforgiveable.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/13/trumps-deadly-negligence-is-now-demonstrated-beyond-reasonable-doubt/

 

Divisive? Hillary told half the country they are utter pieces of human waste and would end their livelihoods forever. Divisive?