96% asymptomatic.

[scubascuba3]

10 hours ago, papa al said:

Helloooo.

Did you read the article?

They did mention age.

"Older"

That's no use at all, several prisons involved, no age split given

[scubascuba3]

5 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

Asking the real questions.

It is amazing how the world's billionaires and mega corporations gave absolutely no resistance to the lock downs and the shuttering of the economy. Did they suddenly develop a conscience or did they predict a favorable return?

I have wondered why businesses have been so quiet about the lockdowns even though their businesses could fold. They mostly must be brainwashed into thinking it's the correct route. I noticed on the radio and TV the anti lockdowners got little airtime and were dismissed early as the media were backing a different horse

[BritManToo]

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

I have wondered why businesses have been so quiet about the lockdowns even though their businesses could fold. They mostly must be brainwashed into thinking it's the correct route. I noticed on the radio and TV the anti lockdowners got little airtime and were dismissed early as the media were backing a different horse

Most governments control their media quite tightly.

The UK certainly does.

Why would Thailand be different?

[FarFlungFalang]

23 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Most governments control their media quite tightly.

The UK certainly does.

Why would Thailand be different?

Most big money control their "governments" quite tightly and Thailand is no different.

[mauGR1]

7 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

Asking the real questions.

It is amazing how the world's billionaires and mega corporations gave absolutely no resistance to the lock downs and the shuttering of the economy. Did they suddenly develop a conscience or did they predict a favorable return?

We know the answer, don't we ?

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Most governments control their media quite tightly.

The UK certainly does.

 

I'm not so sure about the UK, i think early on the media decided to lockdown was the way to go and after that they couldn't back down. Current UK govt doesn't like the BBC

[checkered flag]

Very interesting that a large part of the population is asymptomatic. It seems that comorbidity to the disease is significantly important in developing active infections. This sparks many thoughts. Were there significant cases related to student demonstrations  in Thailand earlier in the year? The public health minister had warned that it would cause virus spreading and wanted to restrict the protests (didn't happen). This is my idea:

Do a record check of positive cases and severity looking for university age students. From the contract tracing records determine if there were any connections with the protests. Include any other facts that could be determined. The results should indicate if crowd control and social distancing is important. If cases are not associated with the protest, we should focus more on comorbidity and try to prevent those are risk better survival. BTW a protester could carry the virus home and infect grandma (if she isn't protected). 

Although restricting movement, curfews, banding entertainment venues and alcohol sales, save lives. It's mostly due to a decrease in auto/mc deaths. 

 

 

[ExpatOilWorker]

14 hours ago, TacoKhun said:

Probably bad tests are giving a lot of false positives

Or a deliberate attempt to have more positives to secure more federal funding.

 

[Surelynot]

10 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

Asking the real questions.

It is amazing how the world's billionaires and mega corporations gave absolutely no resistance to the lock downs and the shuttering of the economy. Did they suddenly develop a conscience or did they predict a favorable return?

They knew to 'short' every company going.

[mommysboy]

I'm inclined to believe this report as evidence that covid19 is not as dangerous as first thought to most people.

 

However, there is little doubt that hospitals were near crisis points in Italy, UK, and Spain.  Perhaps under 1% mortality rate doesn't sound much, yet it still adds up to thousands of people and in a short period of time.  It should be noted that nearly all fatalities are in older people or those who are overweight, which may not be the typical profile of US inmates.

 

Also, can we be sure the test/testing kits are accurate?

 

 

[scubascuba3]

30 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

 

 

However, there is little doubt that hospitals were near crisis points in Italy, UK, and Spain.  

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure that's true in the UK, the extra hospitals built such as Excel centre are mostly empty so far it seems

[mauGR1]

38 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

Also, can we be sure the test/testing kits are accurate?

 

No, actually i have a hard time to trust a single word from them.

[Rancid]

Was reading the death rate in NY for under 50s is 5 per 100,000 people, this is half the suicide rate and 5% of accidents. In Australia it is I believe 0 per 100,000.

 

Now NY over 80s the rate increases dramatically to 1,086 per 100,000. Those with obesity or underlying conditions are in the greatest danger. This is the group that needs isolation and extra health care, so why everyone else?

 

Quite a few doctors have come out, at risk to their careers, and said they are being told by CDC to put covid as the cause of death despite believing otherwise.

 

I think politicians are reacting to media pressure. Later when better data is analyzed properly suspect there will be a lot of politicians losing office for the useless destruction of economies, businesses, families and jobs.

[mommysboy]

43 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I'm not sure that's true in the UK, the extra hospitals built such as Excel centre are mostly empty so far it seems

I mean is there was a significant public health concern here, indeed even the official figures report 20,000 covid19 related deaths within a relatively short period of time..

 

I think it likely that the virus is so contagious that it got to the elderly and vulnerable so quickly that there appeared to be a huge health crisis in the making.  

 

It may be that Covid19 needs a very significant helping hand to cause dangerous infection in most people. Personally, I wonder about the role of air pollution too - in over-exciting the immune system and agitation of the airways.

 

 

[ExpatOilWorker]

https://indiagoneviral.com/health/2020/04/26/why-are-some-people-with-covid-19-asymptomatic-evidence-points-to-2-factors/42499/india-gone-viral/

[mauGR1]

4 hours ago, mommysboy said:

It may be that Covid19 needs a very significant helping hand to cause dangerous infection in most people. Personally, I wonder about the role of air pollution too - in over-exciting the immune system and agitation of the airways.

Well, it's not a secret that the great majority of deaths in Italy is happening in the most polluted and populated area in Italy, and probably the whole continent. Let's not talk about age, serious pre-existing conditions and electro-magnetic waves.

...And fear notoriously damages the immune system.

[sirineou]

The virus might be asymptomatic for a large percentage of people, but the isolation of social distancing is having it's affects

My wife's head turned into a Pumpkin.!!!

 

[sirineou]

5 hours ago, mauGR1 said:

Well, it's not a secret that the great majority of deaths in Italy is happening in the most polluted and populated area in Italy, and probably the whole continent. Let's not talk about age, serious pre-existing conditions and electro-magnetic waves.

...And fear notoriously damages the immune system.

That is not correct.

My sister lives in Mogliano near .Bergamo the epicenter of the epidemic. (Venice area)

I talk to her every day. 

According to her  the area is the European center of textile trade from China, with extensive travel from China, at the same time right about the time that the virus started,  the local Bergamo team  team won the championship  and everyone was celebrating in the streets hugging and kissing each other. 

https://www.startribune.com/game-zero-spread-of-virus-linked-to-champions-league-match/569092442/

[mauGR1]

8 hours ago, sirineou said:

That is not correct.

My sister lives in Mogliano near .Bergamo the epicenter of the epidemic. (Venice area)

I talk to her every day. 

According to her  the area is the European center of textile trade from China, with extensive travel from China, at the same time right about the time that the virus started,  the local Bergamo team  team won the championship  and everyone was celebrating in the streets hugging and kissing each other. 

https://www.startribune.com/game-zero-spread-of-virus-linked-to-champions-league-match/569092442/

Sorry mate. i am born there, and lived there about 45 years of my life, i know what i am talking about.

While it's true that the Chinese are everywhere in North Italy, the textile trade center is not near to Bergamo, and Mogliano is not near to both of those.

Well, i know, for you Americans 400 km. away is near, but in Italy it's quite a distance.

Anyway, all this has nothing to do with the high rate of mortality of Italy, which is , i guess, the highest in the world.