Popular Post steelepulse Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 New numbers are in, based on testing, they are estimating IFR of .34-.37 Key points, there were a couple " super spreader events at parties, A few towns and villages were tested, there was a 15% positive result. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cornishcarlos Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) Mmmmmmm, another one... Wonder if that will be removed from the net ?? Still on YouTube for now... Edited May 5, 2020 by cornishcarlos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dimitriv Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 It's a conspiracy channel on youtube. They had this opinion already before they made this video. If you want to prove something you will always find someone to support you. I could easily make a video on youtube and find some people to prove the opposite. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moe666 Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 Yes the death rate is low unless you were one of the dead 5 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Logosone Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, dimitriv said: It's a conspiracy channel on youtube. They had this opinion already before they made this video. If you want to prove something you will always find someone to support you. I could easily make a video on youtube and find some people to prove the opposite. Except Hendrik Streeck is one of the world's leading epidemiologists. He's a scientist with the US military and also a member of the German 12 member expert group that advises on the consequences of Covid19 for Germany's biggest Land. He was also the lead epidemiologist on the team that examined Germany's "Wuhan", Heinsberg. Of course he's only confirming what we can see with our own eyes. A mortality rate in some countries as low as 0.00007 per cent of the population obviously means this virus is not as lethal as it was cracked up to be. 7 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post garrya Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, dimitriv said: It's a conspiracy channel on youtube. They had this opinion already before they made this video. If you want to prove something you will always find someone to support you. I could easily make a video on youtube and find some people to prove the opposite. Guess you haven't paid attention to what was said. Everybody is conspiracy theorist who goes against the mainstream sh.t. If we all listened to the so-called "conspiracy theorists", this world would be a much better place. Any half decent person can see through how stupid this whole Covid story is. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyiinthesky Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Logosone said: Except Hendrik Streeck is one of the world's leading epidemiologists. He's a scientist with the US military and also a member of the German 12 member expert group that advises on the consequences of Covid19 for Germany's biggest Land. He was also the lead epidemiologist on the team that examined Germany's "Wuhan", Heinsberg. Indeed, Professor Hendrik Streeck has to be taken seriously. He knows more about Covid 19 than we TVF experts all together! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, garrya said: Guess you haven't paid attention to what was said. Everybody is conspiracy theorist who goes against the mainstream sh.t. If we all listened to the so-called "conspiracy theorists", this world would be a much better place. Any half decent person can see through how stupid this whole Covid story is. I can't believe it, but i completely agree with you ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2 is 1 Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said: Indeed, Professor Hendrik Streeck has to be taken seriously. He knows more about Covid 19 than we TVF experts all together! Always think TVF is best place to get information about anything! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Interesting what this epidemiologist said about immunity. He said he expects it to be the same as other cornoaviruses-partial immunity for a couple of years and after, if you get sick again you won't get as sick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 and living in a cave waiting for a vaccine may be like waiting for Gudot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyiinthesky Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 From the video: Quote There has not been a vaccine against any corona virus. Unlike Bill Gates, the worlds leading virus expert, having made possible the huge and profitable Antivirus business, Professor Hendrik Streeck seems to be not so optimistic that a vaccine will come soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, yuyiinthesky said: From the video: Unlike Bill Gates, the worlds leading virus expert, having made possible the huge and profitable Antivirus business, Professor Hendrik Streeck seems to be not so optimistic that a vaccine will come soon. There's nothing to be happy either way. There will be no return to normal before the vaccine, when they decide that the vaccine is ready, we'll be forced to be injected with whatever they'll find convenient. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyiinthesky Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, mauGR1 said: There's nothing to be happy either way. There will be no return to normal before the vaccine, when they decide that the vaccine is ready, we'll be forced to be injected with whatever they'll find convenient. Scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, mauGR1 said: There's nothing to be happy either way. There will be no return to normal before the vaccine, when they decide that the vaccine is ready, we'll be forced to be injected with whatever they'll find convenient. Yes, but if you watched it he said that the cfr for the group he studied is really probably .24-.26 so considerably less than what people are saying and it will lessen in severity to where it's probably similar to diseases we are familiar with as an endemic disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, yuyiinthesky said: Scary. Actually I think this interview makes me optimistic and reassured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, yuyiinthesky said: Scary. Sure, and perhaps 50% of the people are not even asking questions. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyiinthesky Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, vermin on arrival said: Yes, but if you watched it he said that the cfr for the group he studied is really probably .24-.26 so considerably less than what people are saying and it will lessen in severity to where it's probably similar to diseases we are familiar with as an endemic disease. Indeed, that is the very positive message coming out of all the newer studies, all the data which is becoming available. It's not that "the end is coming", but we can live with it without all or most or even many of us dying. No need for scaremongering anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said: Yes, but if you watched it he said that the cfr for the group he studied is really probably .24-.26 so considerably less than what people are saying and it will lessen in severity to where it's probably similar to diseases we are familiar with as an endemic disease. The Washington Post has come out a couple of days ago saying that covid is a hoax, and some other media in Japan and even in ravaged Italy printed similar articles, but i'm still not very hopeful that the tide will turn. The reality is that we are more or less locked down, and there is no end in sight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vermin on arrival Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said: Indeed, that is the very positive message coming out of all the newer studies, all the data which is becoming available. It's not that "the end is coming", but we can live with it without all or most or even many of us dying. No need for scaremongering anymore. Exactly. And seems Ferguson's doomsday models were well off. We still need to be careful and people who are immune compromised in some ways must take special care and be cared for. Also what he said about lower viral loads making the disease less lethal at the same time as giving partial immunity so that hygienic measures can help prevent lethality. Also we need to look at the people who are asymptomatic not as something horrible because these people have the better immune response (higher antigens) so will be the ones who in the future will also be less likely to get ill or have a serious illness (really the people who will be important long term for societies) Of course, people still need to be careful of not getting ill from them if they are old or immune compromised. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said: and living in a cave waiting for a vaccine may be like waiting for Gudot. What is "gudot" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, mauGR1 said: The Washington Post has come out a couple of days ago saying that covid is a hoax, and some other media in Japan and even in ravaged Italy printed similar articles, but i'm still not very hopeful that the tide will turn. The reality is that we are more or less locked down, and there is no end in sight. We are locked down until people in charge in the nations that are not getting wrecked get up to speed with what is really happening. The horrible situation in the US makes it worse for everyone not there since it makes everyone worried that that situation will take place everywhere, but the US did very little to mitigate the disease except lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said: Indeed, that is the very positive message coming out of all the newer studies, all the data which is becoming available. It's not that "the end is coming", but we can live with it without all or most or even many of us dying. No need for scaremongering anymore. I was typing something, then i noticed your last line, and i decided not to scare you even more ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said: What is "gudot" It's a play in which the main characters wait for someone, Godot, who never shows up Edited May 5, 2020 by vermin on arrival 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, tribalfusion001 said: What is "gudot" I think it's Godot, means waiting for somebody who will never come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, yuyiinthesky said: Indeed, Professor Hendrik Streeck has to be taken seriously. He knows more about Covid 19 than we TVF experts all together! Oh come on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said: We are locked down until people in charge in the nations that are not getting wrecked get up to speed with what is really happening. The horrible situation in the US makes it worse for everyone not there since it makes everyone worried that that situation will take place everywhere, but the US did very little to mitigate the disease except lockdown. I have no faith left for those in charge, i am afraid that only the people can save the people now. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) Wow and his data says there is only a 15% chance of getting infected with someone in your own household who is infected. The real problem is with the super spreader events. One was a carnival where people were kissing each other on the lips and someone was running around blowing a whistle spreading the disease everywhere and there was 40% infection. The other was a nightclub with people dancing and singing very close to each other. Edited May 5, 2020 by vermin on arrival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why Me Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) Whenever I see a video of a person in a small room with no furnishings and all doors closed I wonder if he's been kept there for his own good. Edited May 5, 2020 by Why Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tribalfusion001 Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, mauGR1 said: I think it's Godot, means waiting for somebody who will never come. Learn something new everyday. There are a lot of these videos going around and judging by the viewing figures of them, then more people are getting impartial information rather than the MSM. Some of my friends have turned from "wuflu" to "this is a scary virus" and now "why are we locked down". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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