Why isn't Taiwan on the Thai "good list" of countries?

[Stadtler]

Thailand's "GOOD" list of countries which now includes Korea and China should have Taiwan on there as well.  Taiwan should be the model of the world on how to deal with this virus.  I agree with having South Korea but disagree having CHINA on this list.  I don't believe China's Communists who tell us their numbers but the reports coming from China contradict them. 

 

Why isn't Taiwan on the good list?

[timendres]

Putting Taiwan on the list would be acknowledging that they are an actual country, which would upset the Masters that Thailand so willingly obeys.

[saakura]

Maybe Thailand cinsiders Taiwan as a province of China?

[Stadtler]

3 minutes ago, saakura said:

Maybe Thailand cinsiders Taiwan as a province of China?

Is that how Taiwanese Citizens think as well?

[tribalfusion001]

The tide seems to be turning on admitting Taiwan to the WHO now, plenty of angry countries who towed the line before in not letting Taiwan join. You could say that the PRC are a province of Taiwan ROC seeing as the commies overthrew them in 1949.

[Captain Monday]

Countries the recognize Taiwan and their populations.

 

Belize	397,628
El Salvador	6,486,205
Guatemala	17,915,568
Haiti	11,402,528
Honduras	9,904,607
Kiribati	119,449
Marshall Islands	59,190
Nauru	10,824
Nicaragua	6,624,554
Palau	18,094
Paraguay	7,132,538
Saint Kitts And Nevis	53,199
Saint Lucia	183,627
Saint Vincent And The Grenadines	110,940
Solomon Islands	686,884
Tuvalu	11,792
Vatican City	801

 

 

[tomazbodner]

1 minute ago, Captain Monday said:

Countries the recognize Taiwan and their populations.

 

Belize	397,628
El Salvador	6,486,205
Guatemala	17,915,568
Haiti	11,402,528
Honduras	9,904,607
Kiribati	119,449
Marshall Islands	59,190
Nauru	10,824
Nicaragua	6,624,554
Palau	18,094
Paraguay	7,132,538
Saint Kitts And Nevis	53,199
Saint Lucia	183,627
Saint Vincent And The Grenadines	110,940
Solomon Islands	686,884
Tuvalu	11,792
Vatican City	801

 

 

And with China's "One China" campaign, the list is getting ever shorter...

 

There was a joint operation in central Europe with Taiwanese police, where a bunch of Taiwanese were running a call centre, scamming mainland Chinese out of money. After arrest they weren't deported to Taipei but instead to Beijing... While people likely disagree, most governments recognise Taiwan as part of China.

[Heppinger]

8 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

Countries the recognize Taiwan and their populations.

 

Belize	397,628
El Salvador	6,486,205
Guatemala	17,915,568
Haiti	11,402,528
Honduras	9,904,607
Kiribati	119,449
Marshall Islands	59,190
Nauru	10,824
Nicaragua	6,624,554
Palau	18,094
Paraguay	7,132,538
Saint Kitts And Nevis	53,199
Saint Lucia	183,627
Saint Vincent And The Grenadines	110,940
Solomon Islands	686,884
Tuvalu	11,792
Vatican City	801

 

 

Not many heavy hitters among'st this lot wouldn't you say?

[Why Me]

Just now, Heppinger said:

Not many heavy hitters among'st this lot wouldn't you say?

You do not want to mess with the Vatican. The Good Lord might strike you down.

[Heppinger]

3 minutes ago, Why Me said:

You do not want to mess with the Vatican. The Good Lord might strike you down.

I'm thinking it's the Vatican that may get struck down by the Good Lord.  As it looks to me as though these sinners are worshiping a different master.

[otherstuff1957]

Generally speaking, countries have a choice between recognizing Taiwan or recognizing the PRC. 

 

Most will consult their wallets before deciding.

[Salerno]

38 minutes ago, Stadtler said:

Why isn't Taiwan on the good list?

 

Perhaps if you understood the "good list" in the first place you wouldn't have asked the question.

 

China and Korea haven't been added to a nonexistent "good list" they've been removed from a "bad list".

[herwin1234]

37 minutes ago, timendres said:

Putting Taiwan on the list would be acknowledging that they are an actual country, which would upset the Masters that Thailand so willingly obeys.

um, The usa doesnt have an embassy in Taiwan, bc they dont want to upset China. Hollywood movies actively discard and or avoid any mention of Taiwan, worldwide all airlines do not mention Taiwan as an independent country, but as a part of China, western designers have apologized bc of accidentilly printing "Taiwan" on shirts. The list goes on. NOBODY including the usa want to upset China.

Just to pick out your host country and cynically labeling China as their " masters" seems a tat unfair to me. You have a grudge against Thailand perhaps?

[tribalfusion001]

21 minutes ago, otherstuff1957 said:

Generally speaking, countries have a choice between recognizing Taiwan or recognizing the PRC. 

 

Most will consult their wallets before deciding.

Threats and wallets. It's about time the PRC should be trodden down.

Edited May 17, 2020 by tribalfusion001

[Stadtler]

1 minute ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Threats and wallets. It's about time the PRC was brought down a peg or two.

It's time to crush them.

[timendres]

22 minutes ago, herwin1234 said:

um, The usa doesnt have an embassy in Taiwan, bc they dont want to upset China. Hollywood movies actively discard and or avoid any mention of Taiwan, worldwide all airlines do not mention Taiwan as an independent country, but as a part of China, western designers have apologized bc of accidentilly printing "Taiwan" on shirts. The list goes on. NOBODY including the usa want to upset China.

Just to pick out your host country and cynically labeling China as their " masters" seems a tat unfair to me. You have a grudge against Thailand perhaps?

 

Grudges are for the feeble minded. I simply made an observation. Judge it as you wish.

[Traubert]

31 minutes ago, Stadtler said:

It's time to crush them.

Carry on.

[tribalfusion001]

28 minutes ago, Stadtler said:

It's time to crush them.

I think nuke them, it is a bit extreme, but a bit of nuclear fallout and covid-19 should be a nice mix 555

[Farang99]

13 hours ago, saakura said:

Maybe Thailand cinsiders Taiwan as a province of China?

As does China, which is what causes the problems.

[Pilotman]

13 hours ago, saakura said:

Maybe Thailand cinsiders Taiwan as a province of China?

Thailand does what they are told by the Chinese thugs, they are not allowed an opinion, even if they have one.   Just about every other country in the World is in the same position, don't upset the Chinese over Taiwan, or Tibet, it's pathetic kow towing to a despicable regime.  

[Isaan sailor]

Personally, I always recognize Taiwan as an independent country.  I even buy Taiwan made products whenever possible.  Why? Because China doesn’t like it.

[Oxx]

Taiwan is a province of China, as is Tibet, and as Laos, Vietnam and Burma are in the process of becoming.  Thailand's probably next on the list.

[flossie35]

Taiwan calls itself "Republic of China". You can't have 2 Republics of China. Wallets work both ways - Taiwan has an overseas aid programme. Not all Taiwanese were happy to be taken over by the defeated Kuomintang - there's a film about it. This is more complicated than it looks.

 

[yogi100]

14 hours ago, saakura said:

Maybe Thailand cinsiders Taiwan as a province of China?

And maybe there are those in Taiwan and elsewhere who consider Thailand a province of China.

[Pilotman]

1 minute ago, Oxx said:

Taiwan is a province of China, as is Tibet, and as Laos, Vietnam and Burma are in the process of becoming.  Thailand's probably next on the list.

and that is the kind of nonsense we should be fighting against.   They are culturally and often ethnically totally different to mainland China.  By your logic, Egypt should still be part of the Roman Empire. so owned by Italy. Good job you were not around when decisions over retaking the Falkland Islands in 1982 had to be taken, Oh wait, lets hand over Gibraltar to the Spanish, great idea. How about Ukraine to the Russians, another good idea by your argument. Actually, most of the Thai, Burmese and Laos peoples gravitated from China over 5,000 years ago, so China is the owner.  the permutations are endless.   

[Pilotman]

10 minutes ago, flossie35 said:

Taiwan calls itself "Republic of China". You can't have 2 Republics of China. Wallets work both ways - Taiwan has an overseas aid programme. Not all Taiwanese were happy to be taken over by the defeated Kuomintang - there's a film about it. This is more complicated than it looks.

 

No its not.  I lived and worked there for over 8 years, they see themselves as the real Chinese and quite separate from the mainland.  They even speak and write  a quite distinctly different dialect of Mandarin 

Edited May 18, 2020 by Pilotman

[Oxx]

12 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

they see themselves as the real Chinese and quite separate from the mainland.  They even speak and write  a quite distinctly different dialect of Mandarin 

 

The official spoken language of Taiwan is Mandarin Chinese, and is virtually identical to Standard Chinese.  The modest divergence in pronunciation and vocabulary are no more than one would expect of regional dialects of the same language (which, of course they are).

 

As for the writing system, China reformed the ideograms to simplify them and make them easier to learn and write.  The renegade province of Taiwan has not yet adopted this modern writing reform.

[Denim]

On 5/17/2020 at 5:24 AM, saakura said:

Maybe Thailand cinsiders Taiwan as a province of China?

 

I think it's probably the other way around these days.

[Pilotman]

7 minutes ago, Oxx said:

 

The official spoken language of Taiwan is Mandarin Chinese, and is virtually identical to Standard Chinese.  The modest divergence in pronunciation and vocabulary are no more than one would expect of regional dialects of the same language (which, of course they are).

 

As for the writing system, China reformed the ideograms to simplify them and make them easier to learn and write.  The renegade province of Taiwan has not yet adopted this modern writing reform.

all wrong.  Do you speak Mandarin or write Chinese characters, or have worked in Taiwan, or for a Taiwanese  company?  if so you would know. 

[Pilotman]

10 minutes ago, Oxx said:

 

The official spoken language of Taiwan is Mandarin Chinese, and is virtually identical to Standard Chinese.  The modest divergence in pronunciation and vocabulary are no more than one would expect of regional dialects of the same language (which, of course they are).

 

As for the writing system, China reformed the ideograms to simplify them and make them easier to learn and write.  The renegade province of Taiwan has not yet adopted this modern writing reform.

"Renegade regime", ah, now I understand, you are an apologist for the genocidal criminals in Beijing. Good reason to ignore you I think.