Covid Sweden

[sead]

This is how Covid looks in Sweden and has been throughout the pandemic.

[tribalfusion001]

Good for them, carry on with near normality.

[Relocated]

Amazing! The most liberal country doesn't have any liberals. 

[daveAustin]

Congratulations, but it has paid a massive price compared with neighbours Denmark and Norway.

[richard_smith237]

There has been a lot of comments about how Sweden didn't lock down, but it did. Just not in the same manner or same degree to that of other countries.

Secondary Schools and Universities were closed. Primary schools had the descretion of closing.

The population was asked to socially isolate.

Many / most transport links were closed.

 

A colleague of mine was unable to return home (to Sweden) for about a month.

 

The population density of Sweden is a lot lower than many other EU countries which seems to have played a major roll. You could also compare the population density of Stockholm (4638 people km2) to the worst hit city (New Your at 28,210 people km2). 

 

Perhaps the primary factor is that the Swedes simply followed the social distancing 'requests' better than other places, combined with the other factors (many schools closed), many people did isolate and stayed in and only went out for essentials (according to friends - yes anecdotal I know).

 

All the measures Sweden did employ in combination with their lower population density may have been sufficient to maintain the infection rate below the critical threshold.

 

In more highly populated countries and cities it would be impossible to respond with the similar leniency as Sweden and expect the same results.

 

 

[tribalfusion001]

12 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Congratulations, but it has paid a massive price compared with neighbours Denmark and Norway.

3698 deaths is a hardly a massive price.

[timendres]

13 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Congratulations, but it has paid a massive price compared with neighbours Denmark and Norway.

Paid up front - neighbors simply deferring payment.

[sead]

24 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

There has been a lot of comments about how Sweden didn't lock down, but it did. Just not in the same manner or same degree to that of other countries.

Secondary Schools and Universities were closed. Primary schools had the descretion of closing.

The population was asked to socially isolate.

Many / most transport links were closed.

 

A colleague of mine was unable to return home (to Sweden) for about a month.

 

The population density of Sweden is a lot lower than many other EU countries which seems to have played a major roll. You could also compare the population density of Stockholm (4638 people km2) to the worst hit city (New Your at 28,210 people km2). 

 

Perhaps the primary factor is that the Swedes simply followed the social distancing 'requests' better than other places, combined with the other factors (many schools closed), many people did isolate and stayed in and only went out for essentials (according to friends - yes anecdotal I know).

 

All the measures Sweden did employ in combination with their lower population density may have been sufficient to maintain the infection rate below the critical threshold.

 

In more highly populated countries and cities it would be impossible to respond with the similar leniency as Sweden and expect the same results.

 

 

Did you miss the picture? No one is using mask in the gym. They are using same gear/ weights. Schools closed except kindergarten but lessons are o  distance now instead. Not 1 person is using g mask anywhere in Sweden. I didn't have any problem to go back to Sweden.  Why did your friend?

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, sead said:

Did you miss the picture? No one is using mask in the gym. They are using same gear/ weights. Schools closed except kindergarten but lessons are o  distance now instead. Not 1 person is using g mask anywhere in Sweden. I didn't have any problem to go back to Sweden.  Why did your friend?

My friend lives in Sweden, he was unable to get there because he's Serbian (non-EU) and was not permitted to fly in on a repatriation flight to Sweden or any other country in the EU (his Wife and 3 children are Swedish).

He struggled to get home because much of the Europe was shut once he could get back to Serbia there were no transport options to Sweden.

The huge reduction of travel into Sweden and many neighboring countries had a huge impact minimising the Covid-19 case loads. Conversely, many flights continued into Paris and London from outside of the region.

 

I tried to draw the point about population density threshold.

Compare Sweden to its neighbors.

 

Sweden: 10.23m population / 24 people per km2 / 30,377 cases with 3,698 deaths

Finland: 5.518m population / 18 people per Km2 / 6,380 cases with 300 deaths

Denmark: 5.806m population / 137 people per Km2 / 10,968 cases with 548 deaths

Norway: 5.368m population / 15 people per Km2 / 8,257cases with 223 deaths

 

Sweden has been lorded in the press for its policies yet the statistics show that with a similar population density it's figures are worse than it's neighbors. Obviously there are a lot more factors at play than simple population density, however, on the face of it Sweden is not doing as well as its neighbors who have locked down. 

It could be argued that Denmark's figures are much better, possibly due to the decisions if its policy makers to lock down earlier.

It could also be argued that Sweden's figures are not as severe as other countries such as the UK due to the restricted travel into country, the lower population density and what could be argued a 'more sensible' population following sensible distancing recommendations to keep the spread rate below a critical threshold. Or, the lower numbers are simply a factor of population density and that's about it !

 

 

 

 

 

[Scott]

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