rooster59 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 UK plans cut in Huawei's 5G network involvement - newspaper report Prime Minister Boris Johnson opens the Hidden Harms Summit via Zoom from the White Room of 10 Downing Street during COVID-19 in London, Britain May 21, 2020. Andrew Parsons/10 Downing Street/Handout via REUTERS (Reuters) - Prime Minister Boris Johnson is planning to reduce Chinese telecoms equipment maker Huawei Technologies Co Ltd's involvement in Britain's 5G network in the wake of the coronavirus crisis, the Daily Telegraph newspaper reported https://bit.ly/2zmI2DE. Johnson has asked officials to make plans to reduce China's involvement in British infrastructure to zero by 2023, the newspaper reported late on Friday. Johnson is expected to use less reliance on China as a means to boost trade talks with U.S. President Donald Trump in the aftermath of Britain's departure from the European Union, according to the newspaper. Downing Street declined to comment. Huawei did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Earlier on Friday, The Times reported that Johnson has instructed civil servants to make plans to end Britain's reliance on China for vital medical supplies and other strategic imports. Beijing is being criticised for its handling of the coronavirus outbreak, which began in China. Beijing denies U.S. allegations it has not been transparent about the outbreak. "He (Johnson) still wants a relationship with China but the Huawei deal is going to be significantly scaled back. Officials have been instructed to come up with a plan to reduce Huawei's involvement as quickly as possible," a source was quoted by the Telegraph as saying. The development would be a change of direction for Britain, which in late April confirmed it would allow Huawei to have a role in building its 5G phone network. Britain decided in January to allow Huawei into what the government said were non-sensitive parts of the network, capping its involvement at 35%. The United States has raised security concerns about Huawei equipment, and warned that allies that use it in their networks risked being cut off from valuable intelligence sharing feeds. (Reporting by Kanishka Singh in Bengaluru; editing by Sonya Hepinstall and Grant McCool) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-05-23 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Prime Minister Boris Johnson is planning to reduce Chinese telecoms equipment maker Huawei Technologies Co Ltd's involvement in Britain's 5G network in the wake of the coronavirus crisis That´s a good decision Boris! Now you really helped the development of technology in the aftermath of the virus. Frankenstein comes to mind. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steve187 Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 we need to cut reliance on China, for as many things that we can, good for Boris seen sense at last on the 5g network, he has had a lot of near impossible things do deal with, and fe is the best man for the job, look at the rest of the bunch. 14 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post car720 Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 About the medicines. We don't need to stop the Chinese from making the medicines. What we need to do is to stop the big Pharma from using the cheap Chinese labour. They are the ones who have created this dependence. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 TV this morning said that 350,000,000 people had lost their jobs due to the Chinese virus. I think that proves that the world needs to completely rethink China and do away with them as much as necessary and as soon as possible 15 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Caspersfriend Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 4 hours ago, steve187 said: we need to cut reliance on China, for as many things that we can, good for Boris seen sense at last on the 5g network, he has had a lot of near impossible things do deal with, and fe is the best man for the job, look at the rest of the bunch. I have to instinctively take notice of a member who has a MK1 Lotus Cortina avatar .. even if they do appear to live in Pataya. As for Huawei being involved in the 5G rollout .. no roll .. just out out out 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Matzzon said: That´s a good decision Boris! Now you really helped the development of technology in the aftermath of the virus. Frankenstein comes to mind. So you believe the Huawei CEO when he states they are free from Chinese government interference and would never ever do anything unethical? Frankenstein's monster's brain comes to mind. 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RickBradford Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: rime Minister Boris Johnson is planning to reduce Chinese telecoms equipment maker Huawei Technologies Co Ltd's involvement in Britain's 5G network in the wake of the coronavirus crisis, Only one reduction will do - 100% removal. All the UK's close allies want it, and I'll guess that a majority of UK citizens would vote for that as well. If Boris still has any political acumen following his illness, he should get rid of Huawei completely. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: So you believe the Huawei CEO when he states they are free from Chinese government interference and would never ever do anything unethical? Frankenstein's monster's brain comes to mind. Why would I need to believe that? It´s the modern and the high quality technology they are after, nothing else. After that it´s up to the customer to have control of the system and protect themself. If you in anyway are trying to put any talk about responsibility of the virus into this, it will neither have any place. The only thing we are talking about is a product and a buyer. That has nothing to do with the Chinese government or who we wish to blame the virus on. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: Prime Minister Boris Johnson is planning to reduce Chinese telecoms equipment maker Huawei Technologies Co Ltd's involvement in Britain's 5G network in the wake of the coronavirus crisis, the Daily Telegraph newspaper reported https://bit.ly/2zmI2DE. ... The development would be a change of direction for Britain, which in late April confirmed it would allow Huawei to have a role in building its 5G phone network. Britain decided in January to allow Huawei into what the government said were non-sensitive parts of the network, capping its involvement at 35%. So is the telegraph insinuating covid-19 prompted this change of heart? Yeah right. Edited May 23, 2020 by Bluespunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hayduke Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Baerboxer said: So you believe the Huawei CEO when he states they are free from Chinese government interference and would never ever do anything unethical? Frankenstein's monster's brain comes to mind. Absolutely correct. The Huawei CEO is flat out lying. Furthermore...the CEO doesn't have any choice in the matter. Huawei is obligated by Chinese law to share everything with the Chinese government and to act as an agent of Chinese Intelligence. This cooperation is legally mandated in the National Intelligence Law of the P.R.C. (2017). https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/national-intelligence-law-of-the-p-r-c-2017/ Article 7: All organizations and citizens shall support, assist, and cooperate with national intelligence efforts in accordance with law, and shall protect national intelligence work secrets they are aware of. Edited May 23, 2020 by Hayduke 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keesters Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 China will regret forever the releasing of WuFlu upon the world. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Regarding reliance on Chinese products, after checking down on Ebay and Lazada and noticing that 97% of goods for sale are from China, one can only wonder what the other consumer item manufacturing countries are doing ? After buying a "Made in China" power bar recently and plugging in a small kettle, there was an immediate explosion and puff of smoke. A destructive investigation revealed that the internal copper wiring was slightly thicker than a human hair, which incidentally is very good for reducing cost of manufacture and hence the competition ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Keesters said: China will regret forever the releasing of WuFlu upon the world. Saw this recent photo in the Cambodian press which interested me. It was taken at a ceremony to open a new section of the highway linking Sihanoukville with Phnom Penh - look at the road signs in Khmer and English!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick501 Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 Whole world was already a little nervous about the Chinese governments bullying and aggressive behaviour even before the virus. Not to mention stealing industrial secrets etc.. Their behaviour during the virus is equally concerning, concealing information, and threatening/mocking countries wanting an independent inquiry, and trade restrictions as punishment for calling for an inquiry. The final cost of the virus needs to be compared to the economic benefits of trade relationships. Many countries have found themselves with too many eggs in the China basket, and many will now be looking for alternatives. Quite plausible the resultant trade reductions will be the catalyst for the inevitable burst of the Chinese economic bubble. And only themselves to blame. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 The payback against China is going to be massive and unprecedented 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 hours ago, phantomfiddler said: Regarding reliance on Chinese products, after checking down on Ebay and Lazada and noticing that 97% of goods for sale are from China, one can only wonder what the other consumer item manufacturing countries are doing ? After buying a "Made in China" power bar recently and plugging in a small kettle, there was an immediate explosion and puff of smoke. A destructive investigation revealed that the internal copper wiring was slightly thicker than a human hair, which incidentally is very good for reducing cost of manufacture and hence the competition ???? Are you sure it was not a vibrator, they use small wires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 53 minutes ago, ukrules said: The payback against China is going to be massive and unprecedented You hope. I do not give a rat's. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Bull Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 While the US has been spending on guns ,bombs and aircraft carrier the Chinese have been developing infrastructure.Now the Yanks realize they are behind in 5g. So because they can't beat them they try to screw them. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 23 hours ago, rooster59 said: Earlier on Friday, The Times reported that Johnson has instructed civil servants to make plans to end Britain's reliance on China for vital medical supplies and other strategic imports. The tragedy is that China ever got to be so essential. Everything, IMO, to do with greed and the 1%'s desire to get even richer by exploiting workers in other countries. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for China's dominance. They are not "good guys", as is becoming ever more apparent. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RickBradford Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 This could - should - be China's Chernobyl moment, when it no longer becomes possible to pretend that the regime is in any way a force for good. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: The tragedy is that China ever got to be so essential. Everything, IMO, to do with greed and the 1%'s desire to get even richer by exploiting workers in other countries. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for China's dominance. They are not "good guys", as is becoming ever more apparent. Ha ha ha. Don't be daft. As you, very correctly, state - 'to do with greed' - is the nub of the problem. Do you seriously think that this dogwhistle virus has changed the minds of the greedy? NO, of course it hasn't, it has merely given them opportunities to make even more money. Is Apple suddenly going to announce that all their phones and components are going to be non-Chinese within 2 years? No, because they wouldn't make half as much as people wouldn't be prepared to pay a 50% 'greed surcharge' on the price and the market won't be happy to hear that their profits will be severely reduced. Same applies to any company dependent on Chinese components. They are all complicit. They all use them because it increases their profit and now you want to kill that profit by forcing them to use expensive substitutes. Political dogma will do more damage to the economy than any virus. There is still no vaccine for idiotic political dogma expected soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post twocatsmac Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 18 hours ago, The Old Bull said: While the US has been spending on guns ,bombs and aircraft carrier the Chinese have been developing infrastructure.Now the Yanks realize they are behind in 5g. So because they can't beat them they try to screw them. China has also been building the largest navy in the world, along with buying and developing all the military technology they can get their corvid fingers on. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadtler Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 6:26 AM, RichardColeman said: TV this morning said that 350,000,000 people had lost their jobs due to the Chinese virus. I think that proves that the world needs to completely rethink China and do away with them as much as necessary and as soon as possible That's right, do away with them until the Chinese People rise up and kill the communists. They deserve nothing short of a slow death. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Stadtler said: That's right, do away with them until the Chinese People rise up and kill the communists. They deserve nothing short of a slow death. Chinese citizens are pretty content with their quality of life which is higher ranked than Italy and only 2 levels below USA. By 2025, China will overtake USA GDP. Don’t you know that they now socialist with capitalist characteristic with a central government. Maybe you should find out the definition of communist. Educational. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stadtler Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said: Chinese citizens are pretty content with their quality of life which is higher ranked than Italy and only 2 levels below USA. By 2025, China will overtake USA GDP. Don’t you know that they now socialist with capitalist characteristic with a central government. Maybe you should find out the definition of communist. Educational. Sure they are Comrade. 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 What does it matter ? I thought all the cell towers were burned down due to causing the virus.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Stadtler said: That's right, do away with them until the Chinese People rise up and kill the communists. They deserve nothing short of a slow death. That would be quite the task for the world to try let alone the people of the nation (if they chose to), folks better realize they're positioned better than anyone presently, especially if the western nations don't test/trace their way to a clearer understanding of where they stand with infection rates. I believe going forward opportunities will open for them to lead the world in many areas while the west keeps floundering. A vaccine will even the playing field though the head start they gain may be insurmountable.. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stadtler Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, from the home of CC said: That would be quite the task for the world to try let alone the people of the nation (if they chose to), folks better realize they're positioned better than anyone presently, especially if the western nations don't test/trace their way to a clearer understanding of where they stand with infection rates. I believe going forward opportunities will open for them to lead the world in many areas while the west keeps floundering. A vaccine will even the playing field though the head start they gain may be insurmountable.. Nonsense. Stadtler had to read this twice so he could order it properly in his head. The world is awake now. The world sees China clearly. Cheap trinkets in Walmart will no longer suffice to abrogate our sovereignty. Other countries are following the USA and soon China will be put into their own coffin as the world shuns them. Down with Communists. Stadtler hates them. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Stadtler said: Down with Communists. Stadtler hates them. Well let’s hear your definition of communism. Will start from there, 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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