45 minutes ago, evadgib said:

No one could have foreseen the virus 

Exercise Cygnus, anyone?

 

Exercise Cygnus uncovered: the pandemic warnings buried by the government

7 hours ago, Kevbo said:

They could easily control illegal immigration, they don't want to, and like all political parties in UK they don't care how indigenous people feel about it ......

Go on, then. Tell us how? A wall around the entire coastline?

 

Many illegal immigrants to the UK who are caught are deported; known as 'Returns.'. See Immigration Statistics; Returns. But, of course, to process and return them they first have to be caught.

4 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I regard indigenous as tracing back 3 generations..............bully for you.

 

You sound like a pompous self righteous politically correct pseudo intellectual,

.....kindly attempt to be slightly more original

 

whose "mates" are probably illegal immigrants

I live over half the year in Thailand.............some of my mates here may indeed be illegal immigrants, I've never asked them.

I seriously doubt if someone as sanctimonious as you would have any mates. Liberal lefties like you have tried to make patriotism a dirty word

4 hours ago, bannork said:

3  generations is a remarkably short time. By that calculation the great grandchildren of Indian and Pakistani immigrants to the UK are indigenous. Yet they usually intermarry, speak their own languages with each other and continue many of their native customs.

Not quite the same as Sharon from Barnsley of Jeffrey from Guildford.

Perhaps globalization is diluting the meaning of indigenous.

Yes you're right perhaps I should have added the word minimum...

4 hours ago, transam said:

Could be down to your age.........????

Or hatred of Englishness

19 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Go on, then. Tell us how? A wall around the entire coastline?

 

Many illegal immigrants to the UK who are caught are deported; known as 'Returns.'. See Immigration Statistics; Returns. But, of course, to process and return them they first have to be caught.

Easy to patrol the English channel and turn the back, or better still tow them back to France

10 minutes ago, Kevbo said:

Or hatred of Englishness

Well, with weak, derivative nonsense like that you are certainly lending weight to argument that low IQ amongst the population is a factor in the UK being on its last legs. 

8 minutes ago, Kevbo said:

Easy to patrol the English channel and turn the back, or better still tow them back to France

Threaten the sink their rubber boats would be my choice. From what I've seen of them they are a bunch of Afghans, Iranians and others from the middle east who are economic migrants who can claim asylum in France.

Edited June 5, 20206 yr by tribalfusion001

5 hours ago, twocatsmac said:

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’ll let you know that the half million foreign students (that find the uk the easiest country to obtain a student visa, surprise surprise)

It is the fees paid by overseas students which keep the fees down for British students. Without them the fees in England and Wales would be even higher and the Scottish government would be unable to subsidise fees for Scottish students so they pay nothing.

 

A UK student visa is not as easy to obtain nor as cheap as you seem to think.

5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Well, with weak, derivative nonsense like that you are certainly lending weight to argument that low IQ amongst the population is a factor in the UK being on its last legs. 

Really..........????

5 hours ago, Kevbo said:

I regard indigenous as tracing back 3 generations. 

 

Which would include many black West Indians, many from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Not so many from West Africa, though.

 

5 hours ago, Kevbo said:

You sound like a pompous self righteous politically correct pseudo intellectual, whose "mates" are probably illegal immigrants

 When you have no argument, resort to insults. Typical tactic of both the alt-right and the extreme left.

 

Which are you?

2 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

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When this farcical exhibition of government crisis mismanagement is finally over, those responsible must be called to account for what amounts to criminal neglect.

Indeed, and top of the list should be Cummings and Johnson.

 

Only they wont be; they'll make sure a few lower ranked civil servants receive all the blame.

24 minutes ago, Kevbo said:

Easy to patrol the English channel and turn the back, or better still tow them back to France

Under various international laws and treaties, the French are responsible for those caught in French waters, the UK for those caught in UK waters. For those caught in international waters it depends on which side of the search and rescue boundary they are on. 

 

(source)

 

The UK Border force do patrol the channel, as do the French equivalent. But while they have many successes, example, they cannot be everywhere.

 

Did you look at the figures I posted for those removed from the UK which I linked to? Somehow, I doubt it.

30 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Threaten the sink their rubber boats would be my choice. From what I've seen of them they are a bunch of Afghans, Iranians and others from the middle east who are economic migrants who can claim asylum in France.

 Your final solution to the migrant problem?

11 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Indeed, and top of the list should be Cummings and Johnson.

 

Only they wont be; they'll make sure a few lower ranked civil servants receive all the blame.

China should be top of the list.

I would have added the WHO too but they have recently stated they only praised China initially to glean more info knowing the Chinese were playing up. 

 

2 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

20 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Indeed, and top of the list should be Cummings and Johnson.

 

Only they wont be; they'll make sure a few lower ranked civil servants receive all the blame.

China should be top of the list.

I would have added the WHO too but they have recently stated they only praised China initially to glean more info knowing the Chinese were playing up. 

 

The pandemic started in China, but how are they responsible for Johnson's and Cummings' woeful response?

 

They are not the only ones to blame, however. May's government ignored the findings in the report from Exercise Cygnus. 

 

Exercise Cygnus uncovered: the pandemic warnings buried by the government.

16 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 Your final solution to the migrant problem?

We don't need them or want them. They have their own countries to live in or if they want to claim asylum do it nearer to where they came from.

16 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 Your final solution to the migrant problem?

Incredible, isn't it. Afghans displaced because, when Saudi Arabian terrorist attacked the US, our government chose to bomb Afghanistan into the stone age; Iranians struggling to survive because when our government didn't like brown people getting all democratic, we conspired to have their Prime Minister deposed and replaced with our puppet - and when that didn't work out as we wanted, we joined the US in conducting 40 years of economic terrorism on them.

 

And now, when the population tries to get out of the dire situations that our country is partially responsible for creating, we have people suggesting we drown them at sea?

7 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

We don't need them or want them. They have their own countries to live in or if they want to claim asylum do it nearer to where they came from.

So sink their boats and drown them is your final solution?

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

Actually it was several years late, having been delayed as discussed ad nausium. No one could have foreseen the virus & nor would it have given the ???????????? a miss if ???????? was still shackled to the ???????? despite the constant balderdash to the contrary.

Well, the virus is here and decimating economies so if the UK still insists on leaving with no deal at the end of the year, it just confirms the government's utter foolishness.

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

Well, the virus is here and decimating economies so if the UK still insists on leaving with no deal at the end of the year, it just confirms the government's utter foolishness.

Not so fast.

 

You need to know what’s in it for Johnson, Rees-Mogg and their chums/financial backers before you can say whether or not they are being ‘foolish’.

 

I suspect lashings of self interest are at play, and not, I add, any self interest of the general public.

16 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

So sink their boats and drown them is your final solution?

Why not, it sends a clear message to the traffickers. Australia towed them back out to the sea and now they don't have a problem.

doesnt make any difference to voters at the next election who wont vote laibour in again

5 years is plenty of time to forget about covid despite starmers whining about numerous matters...

many countries face the same complaints about the govments in power due to hindsight..

''they sould have done this they should have done that'' ,like sweden

theres some spikes in areas where ethinic voters live and thyeyre  more at risk esp baldies

 

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bald-men-greater-risk-severe-083137825.html

 

12 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

Ok, now I’m understanding where you’re coming from.

Lets just blame the tories, the lib tards answer for everything. 

 

Who is in Government and supposedly making decisions on how tge nation is run, including how to respond to the threats the nation faces?

So the latest twaddle they'd have us believe is that the virus only surfaced after December's landslide?

5 minutes ago, evadgib said:

So the latest twaddle they'd have us believe is that the virus only surfaced after December's landslide?

The failure on the part of the British Government to manage the threat certainly post dates the election result.

 

 

Off topic  post removed, please stop posting such videos this is trolling.

2 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Why not, it sends a clear message to the traffickers. Australia towed them back out to the sea and now they don't have a problem.

Tony Abbot explained how that worked a few days ago in an interview with St Nigel on LBC.

2 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Why not, it sends a clear message to the traffickers. Australia towed them back out to the sea and now they don't have a problem.

The traffickers don't care what happens to the migrants once they've had their money. They wouldn't send them off into the busiest shipping lane in the world in small, overcrowded inflatables if they did.

 

Whatever the rights and wrongs, successes and failures of Operation Sovereign Borders, the Australian government never used your final solution of sinking the boats and leaving the occupants to drown.

23 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Surprisingly it wasn't Boris that suggested downing some disinfectant to cure the virus but they have saved a fortune in pension payments as Dominic would know very well????

 

      Correct ,  less pension payments , as advised by Dominic to our Prime Minister .

         Win Win ..