webfact Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Koh Samui murder: Police interview British fitness trainer seen arguing with Ukrainian victim Picture: Thai Rath Further details have emerged in a murder enquiry after a 32 year old Ukrainian woman was found dead in a wooded area of Maret, Koh Samui at the weekend. Thai Rath reported that the victim had struck up a relationship with a 47 year old British fitness trainer and had told her Ukrainian husband two months ago that she was taking their 10 year old to go and live with him. But it appears that the new relationship was a stormy one. The media reported that the victim suffered from bipolar disorder for which she took regular medication to control aggressive behavior. Shortly before her disappearance on May 25th Bo Phut police understand that the victim had gone to return a motorcycle she had rented but had not had 2,000 baht to pay. She had consequently left her passport at the shop while she went to pawn her phone to get funds. She returned to the shop some time later on the back of a motorcycle driven by the British man. The owner of the shop returned the passport but told police that the couple were arguing. Pol Lt-Col Thanongsak Aksornsom questioned the British man on Monday with Thai Rath reporting that he was a suspect in the case. In further developments Surat Thani deputy chief Pol Col Wirun Suwannawong led a team to the woods where the body was found for a reexamination of the area. This time a drink's bottle and a pair of earrings were found that belonged to the victim. An autopsy at the police hospital is underway to determine the cause of death said Pol Col Wirun. The decomposing body of the victim was found off a gravel path on Friday by a man out foraging for mushrooms. Scared, he ran off but later returned to the scene with friends who alerted the authorities. A green "Ferrari" bag containing a purse with 700 baht found at the scene was identified by the Ukrainian husband as belonging to his ex. The Ukrainian couple had been married for 12 years and had a 10 year old son. They had lived on Koh Samui for 5 years. The husband is a freelance photographer with a presence on Facebook. After the wife announced she was leaving divorce proceedings began. Investigations continue. Source: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-06-09 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post norfolkandchance Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 Wait for the ‘ I told you so ‘. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 RIP 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alation Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 Well it is closer to finding the perpetrator (s) come on coppers come on find who it was. I wonder why they didn't do a proper check of the area originally?????????? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robsamui Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, alation said: Well it is closer to finding the perpetrator (s) come on coppers come on find who it was. I wonder why they didn't do a proper check of the area originally?????????? Thais are trained from birth to have no initiative, and later schooled to be unable to make individual decisions without being part of a group or told to by an authority figure. So the forager had to report to his family group, who all listened to the head-granny, then they all had to go in a crowd together and trample the crime scene, before granny decided that it was indeed a body and not just the result of eating too many mushrooms and called in the police. (Cultural note - you will experience this curious group phenomenon for yourself if you ever have a traffic accident involving a Thai. Five minutes after the police have taken you to the police station, a family group of around 30 will appear and all hang about outside looking fierce - although obviously in this case with different motivation.) Edited June 9, 2020 by robsamui 19 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nausea Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 5 hours ago, webfact said: But it appears that the new relationship was a stormy one. I'm not surprised it was stormy if he couldn't/wouldn't give her 2000bt to get her passport back. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 So the first time round the detectives missed a bottle and a pair of earrings.???? Perhaps a third look may be required....???? 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Megasin1 Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 maybe they will find a bit more evidence when they hold the obligatory crime scene reenactment, you can never guess what they might stumble across or trip over whilst playing candy crush 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, alation said: Well it is closer to finding the perpetrator (s) come on coppers come on find who it was. I wonder why they didn't do a proper check of the area originally?????????? Media and the synchronised pointing team (30+ vehicles and a large number of dignatories/people) were doing just that when I passed the scene 90 mins ago. RIP to the deceased and condolences to her family. Edited June 9, 2020 by evadgib 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yellowboat Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 They need to find the cause of death before they can accuse anyone of anything. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanos Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Even for the RTP, it is evident that they can rule out robbery or suicide. That narrows the field considerably, for them. Cherchez l'homme! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nausea Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, allanos said: Even for the RTP, it is evident that they can rule out robbery or suicide. That narrows the field considerably, for them. Cherchez l'homme! I don't see how you rule out suicide, without the autopsy report, the woman was a bit crazy after all. Please explain your reasoning. Maybe I'm a bit thick or something. Yes, I agree, 90% of these murders are committed by someone close to the victim. A simple timeline check on each suspect should sort it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Not checking the scene of the crime (or where the body was placed) the first time brings to mind the Ko Tao fiasco. Makes one fear for any Burmese in the area. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtco Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 8 hours ago, webfact said: This time a drink's bottle and a pair of earrings were found that belonged to the victim. Should have been found the first time if the BiB had done their job properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 No Burmese nearby ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony125 Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, nausea said: I don't see how you rule out suicide, without the autopsy report, the woman was a bit crazy after all. Please explain your reasoning. Maybe I'm a bit thick or something. Yes, I agree, 90% of these murders are committed by someone close to the victim. A simple timeline check on each suspect should sort it. Yes your maybe a bit thick or didn't read the report that some one covered the body with palm fronds to try and hide her body. Don't think she could kill herself then cover up her own body 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tony125 said: Yes your maybe a bit thick or didn't read the report that some one covered the body with palm fronds to try and hide her body. Don't think she could kill herself then cover up her own body I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobBKK Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, cheapcanuck said: I like how these TV Sherlocks have this case solved so quickly. Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory with the Lead Pipe 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filadog Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 8 hours ago, alation said: Well it is closer to finding the perpetrator (s) come on coppers come on find who it was. I wonder why they didn't do a proper check of the area originally?????????? Because you have to know who's DNA you "might find" there before you go looking. I'm thinking a third even more thorough search will be in order once they've swabbed the "correct" suspect. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 dont know how long poor lady had this horrible disorder, could be the husband was hoping she would find another man who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Tension at having to deal with a moody partner plus the drama over money and arguing about such things aren’t out of the ordinary for many folks. Don’t mean he killed her. lets wait n see what plod comes up with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chivo Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 9 hours ago, robsamui said: Thais are trained from birth to have no initiative, and later schooled to be unable to make individual decisions without being part of a group or told to by an authority figure. So the forager had to report to his family group, who all listened to the head-granny, then they all had to go in a crowd together and trample the crime scene, before granny decided that it was indeed a body and not just the result of eating too many mushrooms and called in the police. (Cultural note - you will experience this curious group phenomenon for yourself if you ever have a traffic accident involving a Thai. Five minutes after the police have taken you to the police station, a family group of around 30 will appear and all hang about outside looking fierce - although obviously in this case with different motivation.) It’s so true: that everything is a decision by extended family commitee. And once ‘the ideas/solutions’ flow, there’s no real analytical or discriminatory process, it’s just a matter of how soon can we all get our heads nodding together and go eat lunch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 how was the under 50 yr old husband able to live and work in Thailand for 5 years. I guess one should learn from the pros. body must be in cement and barrel and dumped in water. Like those political refugees in Cambodia. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadinuk Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Unlikely, but if yhe phone is still at the pawn shop, maybe it will have incriminating messages on it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 One report I read was that the finder ran home to tell his family and two days? later they all went to the site to confirm it was a body. Ghosts??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Some troll posts and replies have been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob A Kneale Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, Elkski said: how was the under 50 yr old husband able to live and work in Thailand for 5 years. With a visa? Who said that he "worked" in Thailand, he was quoted as being a freelance photographer, that's all. Why are you concerned about how he's able to live here? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, bluedoc said: Why guess when someone’s life is at stake. You’d make a good Thai cop. What? Is one more going to die? I thought she was dead already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 10 hours ago, Elkski said: how was the under 50 yr old husband able to live and work in Thailand for 5 years. He was a freelance photographer, i know this coz i read the story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 11 hours ago, nomadinuk said: Unlikely, but if yhe phone is still at the pawn shop, maybe it will have incriminating messages on it? Shh you might give the cops ideas ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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