Just now, Rookiescot said:

Are you saying Johnson is wrong?

 

Are you saying Johnson doesn't tell lies?

1 minute ago, vogie said:

Are you saying Johnson doesn't tell lies?

He does tell lies. He has been sacked twice because of it.

Are you now agreeing with me by saying Johnson is lying when he calls the buffoons from yesterday Racist Thugs?

Mostly two sides to these things.

Who is kicking who here? ????????????

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Some posts have been removed:

 

18) Social Media content is not to be used as  source material unless it is from a recognized or approved news media source,  the source of any such material (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube  etc.) should always be shown

 

 

21 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

I did a search but couldnt find it, could you post the photo or video up ?

 

 

 

Edit: Based on Rimmer's insertion above this post, I have removed one of the Twitter posts as the reporter did not have a blue tick. The one remaining is from a verified BBC reporter. 

Edited June 14, 20206 yr by RuamRudy

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Didn't look like BLM supporters attacking the police.

That was the right wing mob.

They also attacked people having a picnic in Hyde park.

They were football hooligans, nothing more.

16 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

That is actually rather funny, could it be described as black humour?

Piers Morgan will need a froth-hood tomorrow, and what's the bet that he'll allow that woman who invariably turns up wearing a lop-sided halo free reign to engage in yet another anti-white rant while stifling whoever is brought on to present the opposing view?

Edited June 14, 20206 yr by evadgib

5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

 

 

Edit: Based on Rimmer's insertion above this post, I have removed one of the Twitter posts as the reporter did not have a blue tick. The one remaining is from a verified BBC reporter. 

Those were not Nazi salutes

2 minutes ago, roo860 said:

They were football hooligans, nothing more.

Which club are they from?

26 minutes ago, vogie said:

So you agree, you are biased and only see one side of an argument then?

Everyone has inherent bias - neither you nor me can claim differently. That does not prevent me from seeing other points of view - however limited time and a desire to stay on topic (you know how important that is to me) means that I am not the open book you seem to expect. 

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Which club are they from?

Well it certainly wasn't Partick Thistle, apparently West Ham lads formed a cordon around two Chelsea Pensioners, so would reckon the London clubs.

1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

Men defending Churchill's statue from literally nobody while giving nazi salutes and attacking police officers - you couldn't make it up. 

You did make it up or did you genuinely believe that they were actual Nazi salutes ?

Can you really not tell the difference between a person putting their arms in the air and a Nazi salute ?

Or do you think that every time a football player scores a goal, he gives a Nazi salute to celebrate ?

16 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Everyone has inherent bias - neither you nor me can claim differently. That does not prevent me from seeing other points of view - however limited time and a desire to stay on topic (you know how important that is to me) means that I am not the open book you seem to expect. 

You don't see the other point of view, that is the problem.

40 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

He does tell lies. He has been sacked twice because of it.

Are you now agreeing with me by saying Johnson is lying when he calls the buffoons from yesterday Racist Thugs?

You are being very selective with your opinions on thuggery, there would be nobody on the streets committing any crimes if the mob had not decended on our streets last week intent on destroying our capital.

As for agreeing with you, I wouldn't agree with you even if you were right, my views on Boris is well documented and I have been consistantly consistant, whereas some posters on here can be very selective on what they post or who they quote.????

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

You did make it up or did you genuinely believe that they were actual Nazi salutes ?

Can you really not tell the difference between a person putting their arms in the air and a Nazi salute ?

Or do you think that every time a football player scores a goal, he gives a Nazi salute to celebrate ?

When this same scenario was presented last week it transpired that the 'Nazi saluters' were;

 

a) Clench-fisted BLMers in one direction &

 

b  ) Filmers with phones in their hands in the other.

 

HTH

16 minutes ago, vogie said:

You don't see the other point of view, that is the problem.

 

5 minutes ago, vogie said:

As for agreeing with you, I wouldn't agree with you even if you were right,

 

Good god, what on earth happened to you in those 11 minutes? 

Just now, RuamRudy said:

 

 

Good god, what on earth happened to you in those 11 minutes? 

????

26 minutes ago, vogie said:

You don't see the other point of view, that is the problem.

 

And then you say this?

 

14 minutes ago, vogie said:

You are being very selective with your opinions on thuggery, there would be nobody on the streets committing any crimes if the mob had not decended on our streets last week intent on destroying our capital.

As for agreeing with you, I wouldn't agree with you even if you were right, my views on Boris is well documented and I have been consistantly consistant, whereas some posters on here can be very selective on what they post or who they quote.????

 

Consistent eh?

Love the line about not agreeing with me even if I am right.

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

In layman's terms, a far right protester. Hence the description in the article.

 

Just like Mayor Khan, the lying hypocrite with tunnel vision, says, all who oppose the violent left and their vision of society must be labelled far-right eh?

 

Any proof or do you believe the press all the time?

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

And then you say this?

 

 

Consistent eh?

Love the line about not agreeing with me even if I am right.

Sorry forgot, you don't do humour do you. 

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

Sorry forgot, you don't do humour do you. 

So we do have something in common then.

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So we do have something in common then.

Not really, when I handed my kit back in on leaving the army, the storeman let me keep my humour.????????????

3 hours ago, INFIDELandPROUD said:

So let me get this straight, if you protect any statue from damage (most of these people being military veterans) you're automatically classed as ’Far-Right’ absolutely ridiculous journalism trying to dupe people into more hatred.

 

3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

In laymans terms, a man that does not want to surrender British culture and history to a revisionist leftist mob.

 

Yes, when people come out to clash with anti-racism protesters, and justify their actions by declaring slavery “British culture” they want to  “protect”, I believe far-right is a pretty accurate description of such people. 
 

Maybe they could volunteer to clean parks or teach students about the dark chapters of British history if they cared so deeply about contributing to society? 
 

 

3 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

I am quite sure that it isnt true and that no one was attacked whilst having a picnic in the park 

Is that the same MSM News that we are all supposed to ignore this week?

1 minute ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

 

Yes, when people come out to clash with anti-racism protesters, and justify their actions by declaring slavery “British culture” they want to  “protect”, I believe far-right is a pretty accurate description of such people. 
 

 

 

Who was you quoting ?

Who said that slavery was British culture ?

3 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Last weekend, 49 Police officers got injured in London by the BLM group and there was property destruction and they were expected to do the same yesterday 

If only they hadn’t cancelled. 

1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

 Man defending men defending Churchill's statue from literally nobody while giving nazi salutes and attacking police officers - you couldn't make it up. 

 

 

Unfortunately, just as the BLM movement, which has neo-Marxist sympathies and believes change is achieved through violent revolution, protests get hi-jacked by numerous extreme left wing groups intent on violence and causing as much chaos as they can; so those protesting against damaging statues get their protest hi-jacked by extreme right wing groups looking for an opportunity to instigate racial hate and violence.

 

Those wishing to genuinely protest peacefully against racism, albeit only one small segment of it, and those wishing to stop the defiling of public property, get swallowed up by the extremists.

 

What is disgusting, and worrying, is the blatant bias shown by certain politicians, like the dubious Mayor Khan. Not a word of condemnation of the previous week as extreme left wing groups caused damage and attacked the police injuring many. But this week very quick to label anyone who won't bow down to those extreme left thugs as extreme right. All the usual hypocrisy expected from him. He dismisses criticism of the left vandalizing statues and causing damage as "understandable". Let's see if he dismisses violent reaction to them as equally understandable.

 

This is not going well. British people are tolerant, and have been for generations. But, they also will only take so much <deleted>. Labour learned nothing from their last General Election performance. Nothing at all.

2 hours ago, vogie said:

That's why so many people are cancelling their BBC TV licence and a movement called 'defund the BBC' has begun, people are sick to death of the BBCs propaganda, the news readers are not impartial any more.

Ahhh so they are not frenzied, rabid mods this week..........,it’s the BBC’s propaganda. Gotcha. 
 

 

Edited June 14, 20206 yr by Kadilo

2 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

There were no nazi salutes. They are football chants , people raise both hands for certain songs

Were they doing YMCA?

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Unfortunately, just as the BLM movement, which has neo-Marxist sympathies and believes change is achieved through violent revolution, protests get hi-jacked by numerous extreme left wing groups intent on violence and causing as much chaos as they can; so those protesting against damaging statues get their protest hi-jacked by extreme right wing groups looking for an opportunity to instigate racial hate and violence.

 

Those wishing to genuinely protest peacefully against racism, albeit only one small segment of it, and those wishing to stop the defiling of public property, get swallowed up by the extremists.

 

What is disgusting, and worrying, is the blatant bias shown by certain politicians, like the dubious Mayor Khan. Not a word of condemnation of the previous week as extreme left wing groups caused damage and attacked the police injuring many. But this week very quick to label anyone who won't bow down to those extreme left thugs as extreme right. All the usual hypocrisy expected from him. He dismisses criticism of the left vandalizing statues and causing damage as "understandable". Let's see if he dismisses violent reaction to them as equally understandable.

 

This is not going well. British people are tolerant, and have been for generations. But, they also will only take so much <deleted>. Labour learned nothing from their last General Election performance. Nothing at all.

 

Regarding the violence at the BLM demo:

 

"The mayor, who is in charge of the Metropolitan Police, put out a statement yesterday condemning the violence and said “this vital cause was badly let down by a tiny minority who turned violent and threw glass bottles and lit flares, endangering other protestors and injuring police officers”.

 

Whether that is sufficiently blunt is debatable, but it is not correct to say that he was silent about the events of the day.

 

But you are right - the vast majority of people tend towards the centre. The fact is that they showed up at the BLM march and they stayed away yesterday.