UK ready to quit EU on 'Australia terms' if no Brexit deal, Johnson says

[rooster59]

UK ready to quit EU on 'Australia terms' if no Brexit deal, Johnson says

 

FILE PHOTO: Prime Minister Boris Johnson speaks during the weekly question time debate in Parliament, in London, Britain, June 24, 2020, in this screen grab taken from video. Parliament TV/Reuters TV via REUTERS

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain will be ready to quit its transitional arrangements with the European Union "on Australia terms" if no deal on their future relationship is reached, Prime Minister Boris Johnson told his Polish counterpart Mateusz Morawiecki on Saturday.

 

Britain left the bloc on Jan. 31. A transition period, during which Britain remains in the European single market and customs union, expires on Dec. 31 and pressure is mounting to agree a free trade deal before then.

 

With the two sides still far apart, a round of "intensified negotiations" is due to start next week.

 

"He (Johnson) said the UK would negotiate constructively but equally would be ready to leave the transition period on Australia terms if agreement could not be reached," Johnson's Downing Street office said in a statement.

 

Australia does not have a comprehensive trade agreement with the EU. Much of EU-Australia trade follows default World Trade Organisation rules, though specific agreements are in place for certain goods.

 

(Reporting by Estelle Shirbon; Editing by Alex Richardson)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-06-27

 

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[Laughing Gravy]

Great and not before time.

 

No doubt the anti democrats on here will be shouting for an extension for another 20 years, as they just can't accept democracy and how it works.

[twocatsmac]

 and so say all of us and so say all of us,

 for he’s a jolly good fellow, for he’s a jolly good fellow...

 

About time too Boz, we all preferred no deal from the start.

 

 

Edited June 28, 2020 by twocatsmac

[vogie]

Seems that Mr Barnier is drinking at the last chance saloon.????????????

[paddypower]

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Great and not before time.

 

No doubt the anti democrats on here will be shouting for an extension for another 20 years, as they just can't accept democracy and how it works.

I'm trying to remember - did the Brexit referendum say ''do you want to leave the EU without any deal'' (or to put it in realistic terms - ''without any idea of where we're going to?'') Because you are daydreaming to think that the UK can cherry pick its terms of departure, contrary to its contractual obligations under the 2019 MOU. It is laughable (actually patethic) that 'Great' Britain now needs to adopt the trade deal of one of its former colonies. Reality will hit when UK is forced to join WTO trading rules. Further, assuming you understand Article 50, the UK is now excluded from internal negotiations between the EU and its member states. You are on your own (to paraphrase Merkle).

That means any terms you look for need to be approved by 100% of the 20+ EU member countries.

Which is why, historically trade deals between the EU and non-EU states take between 4 and 9 years.

The Swiss signed their first framework agreement with the EU back in 1972. After entering into 100 bilateral treaties to deal with particular issues and they are still negotiating.

The Lords EU Committee said - determining the rights of two million UK nationals living in the EU would be a "complex and daunting" part of exit talks.

Lads, ''taking back control'' was a con job by the elite, in order to avoid getting their offshore tax shelters caught by the new EU tax avoidance rules.

 

[pixelaoffy]

Ah Paddy trying to rewrite what people voted for ! UK voted to leave , there was nothing a out 'a deal' under any circumstances. The europhiles in UK can't even accept all the elections their political friends since June 2016 have lost . UK has left the EU it is an independent state and doesn't want to sign up  to the Mafia organisation and it's failing project laws again ... just get over it 

Edited June 28, 2020 by pixelaoffy

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, paddypower said:

It is laughable (actually patethic) that 'Great' Britain now needs to adopt the trade deal of one of its former colonies.

If it were me, I wouldn't bother to trade with the EU at all, they are far too expensive.

I was more concerned with stopping the flow of Islamic stabugees that Europe seemed so keen on supplying.

 

Although I didn't vote at all, and if I had I probably wouldn't have voted to leave, as a rural home in France was always my escape plan when Thailand went tits up.

 

Edited June 28, 2020 by BritManToo

[Phoenix Rising]

'Four years after Brexit, support for the EU surges in Britain'

 

"Four years on from the UK's Brexit vote, a majority of British voters would now opt to remain inside the European Union, says new research.

According to the European Social Survey (ESS), a pan-European poll carried out every two years, 56.8% of respondents in the UK indicated that they would vote to remain inside the bloc, an increase from 49.9% the last time the survey was published in 2018. The most recent survey shows that of those questioned in the UK, 34.9% said they would vote to leave and 8.3% said they would not vote at all."

[Card]

As usual, Johnson will cave in, reverse, about turn. He always does. He's just full of stuff and nonsense. Can't wait for PM Starmer in 4 years time.

Edited June 28, 2020 by Card

[JusticeGB]

The UK voted to leave the EU there was nothing in the vote about terms of leaving.  It was just expected that the UK would try to get the best deal that it could without being tied to the European Court or European petty rules and regulations. 

[johnpetersen]

12 minutes ago, paddypower said:

I'm trying to remember - did the Brexit referendum say ''do you want to leave the EU without any deal'' (or to put it in realistic terms - ''without any idea of where we're going to?'') Because you are daydreaming to think that the UK can cherry pick its terms of departure, contrary to its contractual obligations under the 2019 MOU. It is laughable (actually patethic) that 'Great' Britain now needs to adopt the trade deal of one of its former colonies. Reality will hit when UK is forced to join WTO trading rules. Further, assuming you understand Article 50, the UK is now excluded from internal negotiations between the EU and its member states. You are on your own (to paraphrase Merkle).

That means any terms you look for need to be approved by 100% of the 20+ EU member countries.

Which is why, historically trade deals between the EU and non-EU states take between 4 and 9 years.

The Swiss signed their first framework agreement with the EU back in 1972. After entering into 100 bilateral treaties to deal with particular issues and they are still negotiating.

The Lords EU Committee said - determining the rights of two million UK nationals living in the EU would be a "complex and daunting" part of exit talks.

Lads, ''taking back control'' was a con job by the elite, in order to avoid getting their offshore tax shelters caught by the new EU tax avoidance rules.

 

Prominent backers of Brexit repeatedly said that the EU was bluffing and would cave in once Brexit was passed. Even on thai visa I still see posters who claim Germany is bluffing and won't give up a big unfettered access a large portion of its market for automobiles. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

I wasn’t aware the EU offered him “Australia terms” in lieu of a deal. 

[evadgib]

6 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

Prominent backers of Brexit repeatedly said that the EU was bluffing and would cave in once Brexit was passed. Even on thai visa I still see posters who claim Germany is bluffing and won't give up a big unfettered access a large portion of its market for automobiles. 

'The fat lady has yet to reach for the lysterine' but i'd be happy either way...

Edited June 28, 2020 by evadgib

[Rookiescot]

3 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

I wasn’t aware the EU offered him “Australia terms” in lieu of a deal. 

Johnson thinks the term sounds better than no deal.

Truth is that Brexit coming on top of covid means massive damage to the UK economy for years to come.

[edwinchester]

So Farage, Johnson and Gove were all lying or mistaken when they all said a trade deal with the EU would be the easiest trade deal negotiated in history.

[pixelaoffy]

15 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

'Four years after Brexit, support for the EU surges in Britain'

 

"Four years on from the UK's Brexit vote, a majority of British voters would now opt to remain inside the European Union, says new research.

According to the European Social Survey (ESS), a pan-European poll carried out every two years, 56.8% of respondents in the UK indicated that they would vote to remain inside the bloc, an increase from 49.9% the last time the survey was published in 2018. The most recent survey shows that of those questioned in the UK, 34.9% said they would vote to leave and 8.3% said they would not vote at all."

Oh dear another so called ' opinion poll'.   Just take note of the actual polls held since the ref 

[Rookiescot]

22 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

Ah Paddy trying to rewrite what people voted for ! UK voted to leave , there was nothing a out 'a deal' under any circumstances. The europhiles who can't even except all the elections their political friends since June 2016! UK had left the EU it is an independent state and doesn't want to sign up again to the Mafia organisation laws again ... just get over it 

But thats not what the Brexit campaign promised was it?

Easiest deal in history.

[Susco]

4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Britain will be ready to quit its transitional arrangements with the European Union "on Australia terms" if no deal on their future relationship is reached

Yes because Australia does very well, looking at the value of their currency. NOT

[vogie]

19 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

'Four years after Brexit, support for the EU surges in Britain'

 

"Four years on from the UK's Brexit vote, a majority of British voters would now opt to remain inside the European Union, says new research.

According to the European Social Survey (ESS), a pan-European poll carried out every two years, 56.8% of respondents in the UK indicated that they would vote to remain inside the bloc, an increase from 49.9% the last time the survey was published in 2018. The most recent survey shows that of those questioned in the UK, 34.9% said they would vote to leave and 8.3% said they would not vote at all."

Too many remainers can't see it but they are no different to the Japanese soldiers of WW2 hidden in the Philippine jungle not believing that the war is over. Believe me, the war is over and we're leaving the EU.

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

Too many remainers can't see it but they are no different to the Japanese soldiers of WW2 hidden in the Philippine jungle not believing that the war is over. Believe me, the war is over and we're leaving the EU.

What happened to the "Oven ready deal"?

[hotandsticky]

9 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

What happened to the "Oven ready deal"?

 

there never was one, we don’t need one - and such phrases were only dragged out by Remainers.

[johnpetersen]

6 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

there never was one, we don’t need one - and such phrases were only dragged out by Remainers.

Actually the phrase belongs to that arch-remainer Boris Johnson.

 Farage: Johnson's 'oven ready' deal will give us 'indigestion' for years

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-50705177/brandon-lewis-we-are-not-going-to-have-a-border-down-the-irish-sea

[Letseng]

4 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Great and not before time.

 

No doubt the anti democrats on here will be shouting for an extension for another 20 years, as they just can't accept democracy and how it works.

It is not about what he wants. 

EU has to want the same.

WTO has a say as well.

Nobody forces him to trade with EU. 

[Ketyo]

With Coronavirus and Brexit the UK is so funny to watch. Great entertainment. A slow motion train crash that we can see in real life. Is there a more incompetent country in the world right now. Brazil maybe. But probably the UK is the worst. Right wing populists. Trump Bolsonaro and Boris. Follow the policies that uneducated and stupid people like and that's what you get. Self inflicted disasters.

Edited June 28, 2020 by Ketyo

[Chivas]

The insanity of departing the EU in the first place let alone the hapless Johnsons utterly deliberate stance now will only become clear to British nationals at the start of 2021, when the reality really hits home.

 

If only we were warned.........

 

[david555]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/06/27/uk-can-reach-broad-outline-brexit-political-agreement-summer/

UK can reach 'broad outline' of Brexit political agreement over summer, negotiators to tell EU

Talks over deal enter intensive phase as chief negotiator David Frost arrives in Brussels

UK can reach 'broad outline' of Brexit political agreement over summer, negotiators to tell EU

 

( Better someone Keep your Boris Away, he is sure to mess it up. I can see it now - at the end of summer, the newly repainted "A330 Boris-Force one "  zooms to Berlin and Boris bounds out waving his arms around extolling the brilliant breakthrough, superlatives thrown around like confetti, Carrie the doe-eyed liberal gazing on adoringly and then you look into the detail and it’s a total sell out.

Edited June 29, 2020 by blackcab
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[Krataiboy]

Lads, ''taking back control'' was a con job by the elite, in order to avoid getting their offshore tax shelters caught by the new EU tax avoidance rules.

 

Blimey! Why didn't you tell us that BEFORE we voted to leave? Could have made all the difference!

[paddypower]

1 hour ago, JusticeGB said:

The UK voted to leave the EU there was nothing in the vote about terms of leaving.  It was just expected that the UK would try to get the best deal that it could without being tied to the European Court or European petty rules and regulations. 

Picking out just 3 of these 'tiresome' reglations you don't like: environmental safelty, foodstuffs standards, protection of the rights of the employed. who do you think will set 'new' standards for the UK? It will be the Tory elite, eg fund incl. 'realesnake' developers like Mr. Porno ( Richard Desmond) ''no doe for the Marxists''.

When i think that the Tories got a donation of £12 thousand quid in exchange for giving up a 50 million quid bonus for a London boro'; I ask myself, would I let this bunch of duffers negotiate a trade deal for me? not likely ????

dont forget many Tory-connected UK managed money funds moved out of sterling and will reinvest when it crashes.

[david555]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Follow the policies that the liberal intellectuals like and you get a country full of stabby Islamic refugees.

You must be lucky to not have them in your U.K.  …..so lucky????  ….(sarcasm reading needed ! As you would dare to take that line as serious … ???? )

[flynn]