https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/02/texas-masks-coronavirus-covid-battle

 

This is what is happening in the States. Masks have become a political statement and many people don't want to conform.

 

First amendment appparently. I only wear one if it's mandated like public transport in the UK.

I see in that Guardian link that the 3 unmasked 'idiots' are all prime candidates for getting seriously sick/dying from Wuhan Flu >>> they are obese.  (Mind you, it's not easy to find an American who isn't fat...).

 

As for the First Amendment, it seems the Americans would rather "cut off their noses to snipe their faces".  Not just with this virus, but with anything that they don't individually agree with.  So-called democracy gone mad...

1 hour ago, tribalfusion001 said:

First amendment appparently. I only wear one if it's mandated like public transport in the UK.

Good for you, that'll show 'em!

 

????

 

Walk naked down the High Street too.

 

 

 

Here is the photo from the Guardian link about masks. The ones in the blue and light blue t-shirts might last a day or two under intubation.

23 minutes ago, faraday said:

Good for you, that'll show 'em!

 

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Walk naked down the High Street too.

 

 

The infection rate where I am is 3.5 out 100,000, with those odds I would say it's pretty safe not to wear a mask. Public transport you will be lucky see anyone in the train carriage with you lol.

I'm British, and have no detailed understanding of the First Amendment, and why it seems to be 'sacrosanct' to many Americans.  But in my eyes, there are many (not all of course) Americans who:

 

- If I don't want to do something, then I won't

- If it inconveniences me, then I won't do it

- If I am too stupid to understand the reasons for some requirement, then I won't do it

- If someone in authority instructs me to do the above, then I 'lose the plot' and reach for my gun.

 

Here in communist Laos, I didn't have any qualms or concerns about being locked down in my house, required to wear a mask outside, undergo temperature checks and use sanitizer etc.  If these actions reduce the risk to me and to others of catching these virus, then the slight inconvenience was worth it.  (Interestingly, during the lock down, those who I observed refusing to comply with these rules were all foreigners - no idea what their nationality was though).

 

If wearing a mask reduces the risk by 1%, then IMHO, it's worth it.  But I think in the USA, it's not about the medical reasons, but more about personal freedoms to stand up and say "I'm an idiot, so I won't comply".

 

 

13 minutes ago, simon43 said:

wearing a mask reduces the risk by 1%, then IMHO, it's worth it.  But I think in the USA, it's not about the medical reasons, but more about personal freedoms to stand up and say "I'm an idiot, so I won't comply".

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/02/covid-parties-see-who-gets-new-coronavirus/5362758002/

 

Tuscaloosa City Councilor Sonya McKinstry told ABC News that students have been organizing "COVID parties" at which they intentionally infect each other.

"They put money in a pot and they try to get COVID. Whoever gets COVID first gets the pot. It makes no sense," McKinstry told the network. "They're intentionally doing it."

5 minutes ago, Yinn said:

 

 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/02/covid-parties-see-who-gets-new-coronavirus/5362758002/

 

Tuscaloosa City Councilor Sonya McKinstry told ABC News that students have been organizing "COVID parties" at which they intentionally infect each other.

"They put money in a pot and they try to get COVID. Whoever gets COVID first gets the pot. It makes no sense," McKinstry told the network. "They're intentionally doing it."

For sure sounds dumb & not unlike Russian Roulette..... Then again we all have a wealth of no idea about this Covid

No country can hide forever & no vaccine is guaranteed nor guaranteed to work on the majority

 

Those being infected & surviving may be the only ones that do survive long term.

 

Of course again none know including myself but I do wonder.

The problem with the acceptance of wearing masks is that the requirement has been ridiculously too stringent in many places. While wearing one while riding public transport, attending church or sharing a breakfast buffet in a large hotel are an absolute must, having to wear one while walking on the beach or hiking in a national park is totally preposterous. Wearing a mask bears health risks too: re-breathing of CO2, overheating, etc., which for some strange reasons have been deliberately ignored. The whole world seems to have gone into panic thinking, while the benefit/risk of wearing masks should have been carefully assessed for every individual situation.

I live in fly over country & never have worn a mask & never will . There are many ways around it.

21 hours ago, simon43 said:

If

but that 's  part of the equation and when you get one  side telling you to  not wear (WHO) a mask and the other to wear  a  mask CDC then confusion reigns. Does mask wearing have an effect, even there the answer is  only probably  followed by but we dont  know how  much of  an effect and  to correctly  use  a  mask is  not  easy. Certainly  ALL  Thais  I  have  seen constantly touch their  masks which is one thing you should  not do. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-science-of-mask-wearing-hasnt-changed-so-why-have-our-expectations/

21 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

The problem with the acceptance of wearing masks is that the requirement has been ridiculously too stringent in many places. While wearing one while riding public transport, attending church or sharing a breakfast buffet in a large hotel are an absolute must, having to wear one while walking on the beach or hiking in a national park is totally preposterous. Wearing a mask bears health risks too: re-breathing of CO2, overheating, etc., which for some strange reasons have been deliberately ignored. The whole world seems to have gone into panic thinking, while the benefit/risk of wearing masks should have been carefully assessed for every individual situation.

The  funniest one in Thailand is if I am on my own in the car I must wear a  mask.

21 hours ago, simon43 said:

If wearing a mask reduces the risk by 1%, then IMHO, it's worth it

And in mine it  isnt for numerous reasons, one being the sheer  volume of  more waste for land fill.

I live in a 750 acre community & have no tag on my scooter, so I only ride it here. I used to wear a mask on it for the pollution (pre virus), but w/ all I've learned & the stigma surrounding the face diaper, I no longer do that even.  There are people getting blotches on their skin from working in mask all day. Their skin tries to make up for the lack of oxygen supposedly.

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• Masks have become a political statement and many people don't want to conform.

 

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