14 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said:

Even if the driver was black...what does THAT matter?

Did anyone say, black idiots dont exist?

There are even a few black right- wingers!

So what is your point?

So you're saying that an entire ethnicity or profession shouldn't be judged by the actions of a few of their members? ????

Edited July 5, 20206 yr by ftpjtm

3 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Also the driver of the white car is black

How Pc is  that!

I'm for protesting

I'm pro intelligence, against stupidity

Stupid to block a freeway

When we were kids, we'd joke "Why don't you go play on the freeway" from parent who wanted to be rid of kid.

Maybe they should go down to Pikes Market, take "a long walk on a short pier"?

I went to plenty of Vietnam war protests: was tear gassed, chased by cops

None of us were stupid enough to think "Gee, let's go block a freeway! What could go wrong?"

1 hour ago, Brianbighead said:

Amazing how people can justify illegal actions......when it suits them!

Would point out driving a car on the highway is legal, and walking on the highway is illegal.

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Can you believe this!!! How often have people seen the left making excuses for lawlessness  !  Go protest in a safe space,

Dident see any posts making excuses for thease nuckelheads hopefully they make a full recovery 

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Would point out driving a car on the highway is legal, and walking on the highway is illegal.

Driving on a blocked off highway is illegal.

38 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

For a whole, whopping 1 hour after nineteen days of rioters constantly getting onto the freeway and blocking traffic? 

 

You realize that the highway is open all day long and police have been closing it at night but doing F-All to stop these psychos from getting on the freeway.

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2020-07-04/2-women-hit-by-car-on-seattle-highway-closed-amid-protests

Thanks for proving my point. The highway was closed, he evaded the blocks. Looks very much like a deliberate attack 

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Driving on a blocked off highway is illegal.

 

An interstate highway thats open all day long for commuters, but shut down at night for violent and dangerous protesters which have been endangering public safety for nineteen days 

Failure of policing once again. Instead of (unsuccessfully it seems) blocking access to the highway, the police should have gone down there with a couple of tow trucks to drag those blockading vehicles away, and with a big bus to arrest all of the trespassers.

Just now, stevenl said:

Thanks for proving my point. The highway was closed, he evaded the blocks. Looks very much like a deliberate attack 

 

This is the hill you wanna die on? 

 

Be my guest. Youll be alone. 

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

An interstate highway thats open all day long for commuters, but shut down at night for violent and dangerous protesters which have been endangering public safety for nineteen days 

You're claiming it was an accident, he didn't know it was closed?

Any violence there? Endangering public safety on a closed off highway?

2 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

Failure of policing once again. Instead of (unsuccessfully it seems) blocking access to the highway, the police should have gone down there with a couple of tow trucks to drag those blockading vehicles away, and with a big bus to arrest all of the trespassers.

The police was blocking the highway.

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

The police was blocking the highway.

As I said - ineffectively.

 

1 minute ago, DoctorG said:

As I said - ineffectively.

 

So they should drag their own blockading vehicles away. You're not making sense.

Just now, stevenl said:

So they should drag their own blockading vehicles away. You're not making sense.

The protesters had two blockading vehicles. Does it make sense now?

7 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

As I said - ineffectively.

 

So if somebody robs a bank and gets away with it, it's not his fault but rather that of the guards who failed to stop him?

2 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

So if somebody robs a bank and gets away with it, it's not his fault but rather that of the guards who failed to stop him?

I did not ascribe fault. It was the decision of the police to take the easy way out by, block rather than arresting, that I was referring to.

 

Some troll posts have been removed. 

2 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

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https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2020-07-04/2-women-hit-by-car-on-seattle-highway-closed-amid-protests

Thanks for the link. Now some facts have come to light it is clear previously some posters were just making up stuff to fit ideological leanings.

2 hours ago, Emdog said:

I'm for protesting

I'm pro intelligence, against stupidity

Stupid to block a freeway

When we were kids, we'd joke "Why don't you go play on the freeway" from parent who wanted to be rid of kid.

Maybe they should go down to Pikes Market, take "a long walk on a short pier"?

I went to plenty of Vietnam war protests: was tear gassed, chased by cops

None of us were stupid enough to think "Gee, let's go block a freeway! What could go wrong?"

The police had closed the freeway. The driver entered on the wrong way. He has been charged.

1 hour ago, DoctorG said:

The protesters had two blockading vehicles. Does it make sense now?

Why were the police there ! 

The protesters were gathered in a prohibited area by being "on the hywy".

They were obstructing traffic.

They were protesting without a permit.

Another example of the left ignoring lawlessness!

"Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan said the city stands beside the friends and family of the victims.

“No one should risk their life for demanding better from our city, state and country,” Durkan said on Twitter".

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2020-07-04/2-women-hit-by-car-on-seattle-highway-closed-amid-protests

 

I think they should be all charged with manslaughter as a result of their lawlessness , especially this lady. She's is a accessory to many homicides in the Seattle area recently because of her policies in my opinion !

Is blocking traffic a peaceful protest?

Most jurisdictions consider the obstruction of traffic an illegal activity and have developed rules to prosecute those who block, obstruct, impede, or otherwise interfere with the normal flow of vehicular or pedestrian traffic upon a public street or highway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_obstruction

 

"Looks like stupid people on the highway at night from the video.

Driver clearly braked and skidded when he saw the people."

 

The driver clearly did not brake or skid until well after he saw the people. he intended to hit them. What kind of twisted reality do you live u provide evidence that contravenes your statement and expect people to believe you ? 

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6 hours ago, nausea said:

The driver was black, I hear, that's going to disrupt a few potential narratives; anyway, blocking an interstate in the middle of the night, no reflective gear or what have you - what could go wrong?

They were not blocking the interstate with their bodies. Read the police report.

- Dawit Kelete of Seattle drove the car around vehicles that were blocking I-5 and sped into a crowd about 1:40 a.m., according to a police report released by the Washington State Patrol. 

- The vehicle  was driving the wrong way.

- AS per the videos now available, Kelete's white Jaguar is seen going towards a group of  who are standing behind several parked cars. The Jaguar swerves around the vehicles and tosses the two women into the air. They then bounced on the concrete.

- He fled the scene and was chased.

 

One of the victims is now dead.

 

The driver is aged 27 and still has status as an "undergraduate" at university.  

I see another red bull type of driver here.

17 minutes ago, Yankeesvsredsox said:

Why were the police there ! 

The protesters were gathered in a prohibited area by being "on the hywy".

They were obstructing traffic.

They were protesting without a permit.

Another example of the left ignoring lawlessness!

"Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan said the city stands beside the friends and family of the victims.

“No one should risk their life for demanding better from our city, state and country,” Durkan said on Twitter".

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2020-07-04/2-women-hit-by-car-on-seattle-highway-closed-amid-protests

 

I think they should be all charged with manslaughter as a result of their lawlessness , especially this lady. She's is a accessory to many homicides in the Seattle area recently because of her policies in my opinion !

Is blocking traffic a peaceful protest?

Most jurisdictions consider the obstruction of traffic an illegal activity and have developed rules to prosecute those who block, obstruct, impede, or otherwise interfere with the normal flow of vehicular or pedestrian traffic upon a public street or highway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_obstruction

 

Offer a legal opinion when you  graduate from law school and have litigated a few traffic court cases, because you certainly do not understand the the state highway code, nor the state's criminal statutes.  Washington  like most jurisdictions requires  vehicle operators to  act in a responsible manner even when the "pedestrian"  exercises poor judgement. Intentionally mowing down people  under the circumstances was a wrongful act, and yes African Americans have the same legal rights as white Americans.

1 minute ago, blazes said:

 

No, these are snowflakes, who think that wherever they congregate is automatically a "safe space".

 

They will of course all need "counselling" after this needless accident.

Accident ? I think you need to inform yourself of the facts.

So you can all get more detail prior to making uninformed posts: posthttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-05/black-lives-matter-protesters-injured-by-car-on-seattle-highway/12423502

Don't riot.  Go home and let god fix it.  Or burn the world too ashes...I don't care anymore. 

12 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

What part of a man intentionally driving the wrong way and then intentionally running  down two people do you not understand is  a wrongful act?  One of those victims is dead. Do you hate Afro Americans that much?

What on earth are you talking about man?  You must be illiterate to see my comment as being anything other than anti-protester.  Time you went back to school and learned how to read.

 

(And just to help you read properly, please note that the word "accident" (as I use it) does not imply blame or innocence.  It is an event, something that has occurred, an accident.  Whether you are 100% to blame, you have still caused an accident.

Sorry if it's confusing.

Edited July 5, 20206 yr by blazes

I find it incredible that so many on this thread are condoning murder, how did so many of you become morally derelict ? You should all take a look in the mirror and ask yourselves how you would feel in one of your children or siblings was killed in cold blood by some nutjob, standing up for what they believed was right, regardless of your political stance.

8 minutes ago, neverere said:

I find it incredible that so many on this thread are condoning murder, how did so many of you become morally derelict ? You should all take a look in the mirror and ask yourselves how you would feel in one of your children or siblings was killed in cold blood by some nutjob, standing up for what they believed was right, regardless of your political stance.

Yeah the guy should have slowed down but it is undersandable that if protesters can get angry and beat people, burn down buildings, occupy property and block highways that it is entiredly possible that this guy had a fit of rage and was not thinking streaight much like the protester putting his life at risk on a freeway....