Britain publishes plans to keep internal trade flowing after Brexit

[webfact]

Britain publishes plans to keep internal trade flowing after Brexit

 

FILE PHOTO: European Union flags are seen outside the Houses of Parliament in London, Britain, April 9, 2019. REUTERS/Gonzalo Fuentes

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain publishes plans on Thursday to keep trade flowing freely between its constituent nations when regulatory powers are reclaimed from the European Union at the end of the year and redistributed to devolved governments in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

 

While it was part of the EU, Britain abided by the bloc's rules in areas like agriculture, the environment, consumer protection and employment rights. Now that Britain has left, those powers will be repatriated to the UK.

 

Some will remain with the central government in London, others will be distributed to the devolved nations. Thursday's plan will outline who gets what and how they are overseen.

 

Both the Welsh and Scottish administrations have in the past voiced concern that they will lose out to central government in the distribution.

 

The government said its plan was designed to ensure rules do not diverge within Britain and create barriers to trade - guided by principles of mutual recognition and non-discrimination.

 

"We want to ensure the most successful political and economic union of nations in the world continues to grow and thrive," said business minister Alok Sharma.

 

The independence-minded administration of Nicola Sturgeon in Scotland will be watching the distribution particularly closely.

 

Scotland voted to remain part of the United Kingdom in 2014, but its overall opposition to Brexit has renewed separatist sentiment.

 

The coronavirus pandemic has also highlighted the tension among the home nations. Despite sharing a land border with England, Scotland and Wales have each chosen to diverge from and often criticise English lockdown rules.

 

Nevertheless, British cabinet minister Michael Gove described the plan as a "power surge" to devolved administrations. It will be subject to a consultation with Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland before the final wording of legislation is decided.

 

(Reporting by William James; editing by Stephen Addison)

 

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[RuamRudy]

This is not going to end well in the short term - and will hasten the inevitable end a little quicker. 

 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Britain publishes plans on Thursday to keep trade flowing freely between its constituent nations when regulatory powers are reclaimed from the European Union at the end of the year

 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Some will remain with the central government in London, others will be distributed to the devolved nations.

Possibly a phrasing issue, but the second sentence does not sit correctly with the first. The powers cannot 'remain' with Westminster because they are not there at present. 

 

As per the devolution settlement, only specifically reserved powers belong to Westminster - all other powers are devolved. If Westminster does not currently have those powers, they must, therefore, be automatically devolved upon return from Brussels. Anything else is a direct assault on devolution and an attempt to further thwart the independence of the devolved governments. 

 

It is beyond certain that there will be no power surge to the devolved nations - the only surge there will be will be in the call to end the UK once and for all.  54% and rising by the day.

Edited July 16, 2020 by RuamRudy

[Rookiescot]

This is just another display of the contempt with which Westminster and in particular this government, holds for its "colonies".

English exceptionalists. Can not work alongside other nations in Europe but love to lord it over their neighbours. 

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

This is just another display of the contempt with which Westminster and in particular this government, holds for its "colonies".

English exceptionalists. Can not work alongside other nations in Europe but love to lord it over their neighbours. 

Things are moving apace all over the UK. Plaid Cymru is strengthening its position; more and more are questioning why Wales is thought of as unable to stand on its own; and many of our friends in England are asking the same of their own country.

 

Support for Scottish independence rockets as voters back Nicola Sturgeon's pandemic response

 

49% of English Voters Support ENGLISH Independence

 

Support for Welsh independence on the rise since the pandemic

 

In Northern Ireland, Brexit renews discussions on sovereignty and identity around an unclear border

[Rookiescot]

57 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Things are moving apace all over the UK. Plaid Cymru is strengthening its position; more and more are questioning why Wales is thought of as unable to stand on its own; and many of our friends in England are asking the same of their own country.

 

Support for Scottish independence rockets as voters back Nicola Sturgeon's pandemic response

 

49% of English Voters Support ENGLISH Independence

 

Support for Welsh independence on the rise since the pandemic

 

In Northern Ireland, Brexit renews discussions on sovereignty and identity around an unclear border

Northern Ireland now has a border down the middle of the Irish sea with the rest of the UK.

Realistically, given they voted to remain in the EU it make economic sense to join the Republic. Yes the die hard Unionists will kick up a fuss but apart from an emotional kinship with the UK it will be very hard for them to make a case to remain in the UK. I also think many will feel they have been betrayed by Westminster given the border down the Irish sea was something Johnson promised many times would never happen.

Wales is starting from a far lower base regarding its independence. However the fact it is now being discussed is a huge step forward. However I think they have a very long way to go.

English independence is a very odd thing. It has of course been stoked by all the rhetoric surrounding the leave campaign and the nonsense given out by unionists about Scotland being a financial drain on England. I knew that would come back to haunt them.

However if you ask that 45% who want English independence "Do you think Scotland should be allowed independence?" most of them will say no. That makes little sense to me.

In Scotland its not a question of if it becomes independent its a question of when. Brexit, Corona and Johnson have been the greatest recruiting agents that independence could have asked for.  

[natway09]

The whole Brexit thing has not been thought through & GB could be in major trouble for 10 years

[melvinmelvin]

hmmm,

not helpfull for the foggy islands if all D10 efforts to keep/improve the economy in the wake of Brexit

are met with English empire builder/Scottish independence concerns

 

 

[7by7]

These plans were already rubbished by the International Trade Secretary, Liz Truss (a Brexiteer) before they were published!

 

Read the full leaked letter from Liz Truss slamming the government’s Brexit plans

 

Before anyone says she supported Remain in 2016; yes she did. But she later changed her mind: Liz Truss says she would now back Brexit.

 

It seems that cabinet ministers can change their minds, but we plebs are not allowed to!

Edited July 16, 2020 by 7by7
Addendum and correct typo

[sawadee1947]

11 hours ago, webfact said:

The government said

...who will believe what these clowns are telling you? They are of same intelligence than the Thai Government, maybe less even! A bunch of egomaniac incompetent wannabe politicians.????

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

Before anyone says she supported Remain in 2016; yes she did. But she later changed her mind: Liz Truss says she would now back Brexit.

is she the Only (with brains) brexiter who changed her mind, at least she saw the mistake and try to correct it

[7by7]

13 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

is she the Only (with brains) brexiter who changed her mind, at least she saw the mistake and try to correct it

I suspect the real reason she changed her mind and started to support Brexit was to secure her Cabinet position!

 

But my point remains; it seems Cabinet ministers are allowed to change their minds, but we, the people, are not!

[tomacht8]

There is one rule:

The larger a structure is, the more difficult it is to hold it together.

[bartender100]

I just posted this on another thread, maybe better here

 

At least we won't stave

 

https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/07/lidl-to-open-1-new-store-per-week-create-1000-new-jobs-before-xmas/

 

Lidl has revealed ambitious plans to open 25 new stores in the next six months, equating to one store per week, creating up to 1000 new jobs in Great Britain by the end of 2020.

The German discounter said its £1.3 billion investment plans in Great Britain for 2021 and 2022 will drive the opening of 100 additional stores, creating around 4000 jobs for the British economy.

By the end of 2023, Lidl said it would aim to have 1000 stores in Great Britain.

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/aldi-planning-open-20-new-18602003

 

Aldi is planning on opening another 20 stores around Greater Manchester.

The supermarket giant has revealed the key areas it is targeting across the region in an effort to continue expanding its locations.

Around the country, bosses want to have a total of 1,200 shops open to the public by 2025.

Bolton, Bury, Wigan and Salford are among the places where new stores could be built.

 

They must be petrified of Brexit

[welovesundaysatspace]

 

5 minutes ago, bartender100 said:

 

Lidl has revealed ambitious plans to open 25 new stores in the next six months, equating to one store per week, creating up to 1000 new jobs in Great Britain by the end of 2020.

Brexiteers buy from German discounters? I thought they only eat 100% British fish, caught in 100% British Waters by 100% British fishermen. 

 

[candide]

4 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Things are moving apace all over the UK. Plaid Cymru is strengthening its position; more and more are questioning why Wales is thought of as unable to stand on its own; and many of our friends in England are asking the same of their own country.

 

Support for Scottish independence rockets as voters back Nicola Sturgeon's pandemic response

 

49% of English Voters Support ENGLISH Independence

 

Support for Welsh independence on the rise since the pandemic

 

In Northern Ireland, Brexit renews discussions on sovereignty and identity around an unclear border

It's time for London to declare independence and just use the ROE as hinterland, like Singapore with Malaysia. ????

 

[Bruntoid]

23 minutes ago, bartender100 said:

I just posted this on another thread, maybe better here

 

At least we won't stave

 

https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/07/lidl-to-open-1-new-store-per-week-create-1000-new-jobs-before-xmas/

 

Lidl has revealed ambitious plans to open 25 new stores in the next six months, equating to one store per week, creating up to 1000 new jobs in Great Britain by the end of 2020.

The German discounter said its £1.3 billion investment plans in Great Britain for 2021 and 2022 will drive the opening of 100 additional stores, creating around 4000 jobs for the British economy.

By the end of 2023, Lidl said it would aim to have 1000 stores in Great Britain.

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/aldi-planning-open-20-new-18602003

 

Aldi is planning on opening another 20 stores around Greater Manchester.

The supermarket giant has revealed the key areas it is targeting across the region in an effort to continue expanding its locations.

Around the country, bosses want to have a total of 1,200 shops open to the public by 2025.

Bolton, Bury, Wigan and Salford are among the places where new stores could be built.

 

They must be petrified of Brexit

Brexiteers just can’t grasp simple economics can they - Aldi and Lidl are DISCOUNT supermarkets - it’s where skint people go to shop, they’ve seen the UK’s future and happy to cash in on it - is the penny dropping yet ? 
 

 

[candide]

21 minutes ago, bartender100 said:

I just posted this on another thread, maybe better here

 

At least we won't stave

 

https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/07/lidl-to-open-1-new-store-per-week-create-1000-new-jobs-before-xmas/

 

Lidl has revealed ambitious plans to open 25 new stores in the next six months, equating to one store per week, creating up to 1000 new jobs in Great Britain by the end of 2020.

The German discounter said its £1.3 billion investment plans in Great Britain for 2021 and 2022 will drive the opening of 100 additional stores, creating around 4000 jobs for the British economy.

By the end of 2023, Lidl said it would aim to have 1000 stores in Great Britain.

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/aldi-planning-open-20-new-18602003

 

Aldi is planning on opening another 20 stores around Greater Manchester.

The supermarket giant has revealed the key areas it is targeting across the region in an effort to continue expanding its locations.

Around the country, bosses want to have a total of 1,200 shops open to the public by 2025.

Bolton, Bury, Wigan and Salford are among the places where new stores could be built.

 

They must be petrified of Brexit

They may expect that the size of their target market segments will significantly increase after Brexit.

[RuamRudy]

From Business for Scotland

 

 

 

Edited July 16, 2020 by RuamRudy

[Baerboxer]

On 7/16/2020 at 12:32 PM, Rookiescot said:

This is just another display of the contempt with which Westminster and in particular this government, holds for its "colonies".

English exceptionalists. Can not work alongside other nations in Europe but love to lord it over their neighbours. 

 

And some people like to pretend that the country isn't actually the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and that it's government is the Westminster parliament.

 

 

Edited July 17, 2020 by Baerboxer

[Baerboxer]

17 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

From Business for Scotland

 

 

 

 

So there we are. A poll, albeit that we haven't seen the selection criteria for respondents and questions etc, shows the majority want to keep the UK intact.

 

 

[Mavideol]

17 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

From Business for Scotland

 

 

 

besides Wales the others have a slim margin, wonder how reliable the survey was 555

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

besides Wales the others have a slim margin, wonder how reliable the survey was 555

The details to the pollsters is at the bottom of the graphic and the text in my post links to the site which gives further details. 

[Baerboxer]

18 hours ago, 7by7 said:

I suspect the real reason she changed her mind and started to support Brexit was to secure her Cabinet position!

 

But my point remains; it seems Cabinet ministers are allowed to change their minds, but we, the people, are not!

 

That's politics for you!

 

Change your mind and follow public support to keep your seat and if your party's in power get a cabinet seat too!

 

Look at many long term career politicians all over the world who all manage to actually do very little but jump on every bandwagon and crusade. All part of their game of smokes and mirrors for the plebs whilst doing the real business out of sight.

[RuamRudy]

5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

So there we are. A poll, albeit that we haven't seen the selection criteria for respondents and questions etc, shows the majority want to keep the UK intact.

 

 

Two of the member countries on a knife edge, one still apparently struggling with Stockholm Syndrome and one with a clear wish to leave - hardly the picture of a healthy and well integrated union.